I agree. I think it will alter any material on earth it comes into contact with over a period of time. Will need disposable parts...
On Friday, October 12, 2012, Axil Axil wrote: > *Russ’s popper experimentation has shown some useful engineering details > regarding systems that use arching in a hydrogen atmosphere.* > > * * > > *The popper will become contaminated with tungsten powder after a > relatively small number of arc discharges are done by Thoriated Tungsten > Electrodes at high pulsed voltage.* > > * * > > *One theory about the cause of this tungsten erosion is that very high > temperatures produced on the surface of the tungsten electrode vaporize the > metal.* > > * * > > * > http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CDwQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tandfonline.com%2Fdoi%2Fabs%2F10.1080%2F09507119209548203&ei=NWZ4UP_wI4_h0wHv7ICYBA&usg=AFQjCNFpzc-m6JddiXhQuTpwzh7UcZ7tPA&sig2=XNBN7NejJpiSQjFHs65oIg > * > > * * > > * * > > *But Russ’s experiments speak against this theory because no erosion of > the tungsten electrodes occurs when the arc happens in a helium envelope.* > > * * > *There must be some other mechanism going on where hydrogen blows off or > chemically alters the tungsten during electrode arcing.* > ** > *This testing has value for other like systems.* > > * * > > *In energy systems like those being developed by DGT, this electrode > contamination could be an issue in regards to the life of spark plugs > running in hydrogen over a long period of time.* > > * * > *First the spark plugs will have a greatly reduced service life, and > second, the electrode metal will contaminate the catalytic processes inside > the reactor as more and more erosion occurs. * > ** > ** > *Cheers: Axil* > > * * > > * * > > * * > > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:46 AM, ecat builder > <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', '[email protected]');> > > wrote: > >> Hi Vortex, >> >> Some updates on Papp development.. Which most of you know is a noble gas >> that is charged (by RF/spark) and drives a piston with an unexplained (?) >> force. Harvesting the force and residual energy to produce overunity power >> remains to be seen. >> >> http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:Plasma_Energy_Controls_Plasma_Expansion_Motor >> >> >> >> An open source Papp Engine based on Bob's design is being built by a 26 >> yr old whiz named Russ. >> He has made great progress in just a few weeks-- a cylinder based on >> Bob's test unit, spark generator, gas system, and more. >> I'm sure he'll be looking for ideas on how to mix and test noble gas >> mixtures. >> >> http://rwgresearch.com/ >> https://www.youtube.com/user/rwg42985?feature=g-user-u >> http://www.open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=659 >> Bob is chiming in with feedback, which is great to see. The forum is at >> 12 pages and is filled with interesting tidbits. >> >> >> Here is a (self-taught?) Dannel Roberts and his visit to Bob's shop. >> Rohner-Roberts Video (The Noble Gas >> Engine)<http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_zWJNyoFgJM> >> Starting at 22:40 is Robert's theory of how the Papp engine creates a >> bang... >> >> >> Chuck (a LENR replicator) received his Popper Kit from John. It contains >> 15 pages of design/build notes and has a signal generator to drive 2 >> included spark coils. Popper control >> demo<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lFt_q69dxk&feature=plcp> >> >> >> Bob Rohner has also produced a few new movies, one warning of the >> potential dangers of building a popper.. another showing the system running >> without a coil, dispelling the thought that the coil could be the source of >> the force, showing that compressed air is not used. >> http://www.rohnermachine.com/pagedocuments.html >> https://www.youtube.com/user/bjrohner?feature=g-user-u >> >> All very interesting, but a lot of power is going in (300 joules?) so a >> lot of work, luck, and miracles may still be needed. >> >> - Brad >> >> >> >
