Hi,
sorry if I was being unclear.
Please understand, that I am not really taking one or the other side. I am
pointing out the weakness in a calculation based on severe assumptions. I am
not trying to prove them (or you) wrong.
The prediction: Jojo said I was going to call him/her a fool and
- Original Message -
From: jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Punctuated equilibrium
On 28/08/2014 7:42 AM, Jojo Iznart wrote:
As pointed out, the odds for a mutation occuring that would
You would have a point, and I would be with you if there are indeed only one or
two anomalies.
But, the fact of the matter is, there are hundreds of anomalies that Darwinian
Theory can not explain. Even staunch Darwinian Evolutionists are beginning to
see that DE theory is becoming untenable.
It's a slow time. If something interesting occurs, I'm sure people will stop
asking me questions and I will stop responding.
You should not begrudge a few off-topic discussions. It helps while the time
away. Besides, I am not starting these threads.
Jojo
- Original Message -
Jojo, if we assume macro-evolution occurs in long time-frames, how can anyone
show you concrete proof the way you say you want it?
I found this
http://www.debate.org/debates/There-is-no-Observable-Evidence-for-Macroevolution/1/
from which I took this
Yes, averaging over 20 posts a day of late is a bit over the top – would be
more palatable if they were on topic as I really have no interest in religion
or philosophy.
Fran
From: Jojo Iznart [mailto:jojoiznar...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 6:29 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject:
Then show me fossil evidence where transition forms are clearly evident. How
can we construct the entire narrative of Human evolution when all the fossils
of all previous humanoid forms fit in the bed of a F-150 truck. That is some
flimsy evidence for humanoid evolution.
Also, precisely for
Also makes me wonder what strange effects massive hydrocarbon loading could
have on silicon grains as it bubbles up through the sea floor, perhaps the
Bermuda Triangle is the result of hydrino bubbles :_)
From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:13 AM
To:
I think you're safe, you will always believe the Bible, because there will
probably never be proof to convince you otherwise.
/Sunil
From: jojoiznar...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Punctuated equilibrium
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:44:54 +0800
Then show me fossil
Jojo said: Besides, I am not starting these threads.
Hehe : ) Yes you are.
You started Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
You started [Vo]:Accuracy of Carbon Dating
And as the fifth message in [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots you were the one to
ask:
To Jed and the rest of Darwinian
OK, I stand corrected if you consider those are new threads. To me, they are
extensions of the topic started by someone else.
But, I think we've beaten this dead horse many times over. I think it's time
to move on.
Why don't you start a controversial thread for discussion, so that no one can
I've never heard of this before : )
From
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1580226/shanghai-san-francisco-100-minutes-chinese-supersonic-submarine
China has moved a step closer to creating a supersonic submarine that
could travel from Shanghai to San Francisco in less than two hours.
..
The end of Christianity will come if full disclosure takes place peacefully.
If our true place in the universe was finally exposed, it would wither away.
I intuitively believe that the primary obstacle to disclosure of ET's is the
hegemony of the US. Once that is out of the way ( and
Some of the oldest tree on record are older than the flood.
http://www.rmtrr.org/oldlist.htm
https://answersingenesis.org/bible-timeline/timeline-for-the-flood/
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
On 28/08/2014 6:22 PM, Jojo Iznart wrote:
On 28/08/2014 11:14 AM, jwinter wrote:
If the necessary information is present from the beginning, then it
only needs to be triggered and it will express itself. This is my
suspicion of how the process might work.
This process my friend, is called
Darwin's theory or explanation of evolution is distinct from the general
concept of evolution.
Several explanations of evolution have been proposed over the last few
hundred years.
To date Darwin's theory has been the most fertile but it also has major
shortcomings.
Only neo-Darwinists insist that
Welcome to the Hotel California (you can check out any time you like... ; -)
On Aug 27, 2014 5:00 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
Thanks to all who noticed and kindly commented on my leaving the Vortex-L
list
One might also question how long the bubbling has been occurring. Perhaps the
earlier bubbling of a know very powerful warming gas has obscured our
contribution. This is just one of the many questions that appear to be left
unanswered and not included in the models. Once most of the
My friend, caterpillars turning to butterflies are not micro-evolution, that is
normal development associated with butterflies.
How about a tadpole turning into a frog, is that micro-evolution also? Or an
egg into a chick? Heck, we can go hogwild, how about a female ovary egg into a
human.
On 28/08/2014 6:25 PM, Jojo Iznart wrote:
You would have a point, and I would be with you if there are indeed
only one or two anomalies.
But, the fact of the matter is, there are hundreds of anomalies that
Darwinian Theory can not explain. Even staunch Darwinian
Evolutionists are beginning to
Darwinian Evolution is the most popular due to one element. It postulates a
natural undirected process that does not require God or a creator. Some
proposals of evolution are directed. The evolution is directed or forced
into a plan or path towards the more complex form, presumably by God or
On 28/08/2014 10:38 PM, Jojo Iznart wrote:
My friend, caterpillars turning to butterflies are not
micro-evolution, that is normal development associated with butterflies.
You think I don't know that!? Why don't you read what I wrote - hint
look for the If at the beginning of the sentence.
You're absolutely correct. I realized my error after I posted it but I had to
take care of something so I did not have time to correct what I said.
I apologize for my mistake.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent:
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
It's a slow time. If something interesting occurs, I'm sure people will
stop asking me questions and I will stop responding.
You should not begrudge a few off-topic discussions. It helps while the
time away.
Thanks, Eric. While I deeply sympathize with the plight of the
irrationally religious and believe they are due more than mere tolerance as
long as they don't impose, the non-imposition condition has clearly been
breached.
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
To bring discussion of evolution back to something more on topic for this
list, I would like to suggest that if anomalous LENR transmutations are
possible then they might play role in changing in DNA. In other words gene
mutations might be less random and more like orchestrated disturbances.
I have been thinking on similar, but not quite the same lines. I warm
to some of the suggestions that coherent mechanisms, involving nuclei,
are significant in LENR, eg. as part of the distribution of the energy
from nuclear processes into the bulk material which reduces/eliminates
the
This then applies? Nature evolved/chose a geometry that reacts at a rate of
multiple terahertz.
Proteins apos;ring like bellsapos;: Quantum mechanics and biochemical
reactions --
ScienceDailyhttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/140603092424.htm
As far back as 1948, Erwin Schrödinger
Forgot to quote this: “Biochemical reactions take place on a picosecond
timescale and the scientists believe that evolution has optimised enzymes to
ring for just the right amount of time. Any shorter, and biochemical reactions
would become inefficient as energy is drained from the system too
Curiosone
August 27th, 2014 at 7:42 PM
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=853cpage=12#comment-991966
Do you use different isotopes of Ni in your reactions?
Andrea Rossi
August 28th, 2014 at 6:38 AM
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=853cpage=12#comment-992087
Curiosone:
Scopings of high freq. electric field from 23 gauge 500 ft spool of wire;
demonstration of krypton bulb as arc gap.
Demonstration of Krypton Bulb to replace Primary ARC Gap in a Bipolar Tesla
Coil System
Demonstration of Krypton Bulb to replace Primary ARC G...
View on
New Theory Predicts Magnets may Act as Wireless Cooling Agents
The magnets cluttering the face of your refrigerator may one day be used as
cooling agents, according to a new theory formulated by MIT researchers.
The theory describes the motion of magnons — quasi-particles in magnets
that are
(Sorry if this was already posted -- my internets have been intermittent )
Andrea Rossi
August 28th, 2014 at 6:38 AM
Curiosone:
We think that our process, the so called “Rossi Effect”, is , as a serendipity,
also a system to produce 62Ni, because only this fact can explain the formation
of
First, The burben you feel is due to the nature of how discussions in this list
are distributed. I feel your pain and I feel the burden myself. I made a
suggestion in the past that this list should be converted to a forum format to
lessen the burden and distraction to members. The forum
I did not get booted out from there.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
Alas, an Amazon copy is around $32. I actually toyed with the idea of buying
a copy and shipping it to you, but at the moment I really need to focus on
some personal expenses.
No need. Watch
I have seen the problem with measuring the input. To me it seems simple
although that might because I am ingnorant.
Why don't you just put a low ohm (10mohm) and hook up the scope over that?
For what it's worth...
I do not want to see Jojo get banned. NTL, I suspect there are a few on this
list who may still consider Jojo on probation, considering some past posting
behavior that in all honesty really did get way out of hand. But enuf said
about that.
I would like to point
This hasn't been occurring very long. Otherwise we would have noticed.
The methane measurements from satellite will be interesting to watch over
the next few years. Here is one report
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/obop/mlo/programs/esrl/methane/img/img_global_methane.jpg
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014
In reply to David Roberson's message of Tue, 26 Aug 2014 22:49:44 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
I saw where that Atlantic current is the assumed reason for the pause and it
might actually be the culprit. The climatologists also had a number of other
possible factors that they were considering before
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
The point is, there is NO ONE on this planet that I know who doesn't
possess a personal collection of faults for which they are trying to find a
better way of juggling in a more elegant way.
In reply to Jojo Iznart's message of Tue, 26 Aug 2014 21:37:25 +0800:
Hi,
[snip]
Yeah, looks like the last two are indeed more intense. Could it just be a
trick of the camera? Does it really look more intense in person?
If it is indeed more intense, I think Randy may have something
I suspect that the release of methane within coastal waters and tundra, etc.
has been going on for a long time and remained undetected. It is possible that
this is a new phenomena impacting the oceans and atmosphere, but there is no
solid reason to suspect that it is.
Unless someone is
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