RE: [Vo]:dark matter update--Mills' hydrinoes are a good bet

[JonesBeene]

From: mix...@bigpond.com

➢ Are you sure that they ever had anyone in such a position? 

I would be shocked if BLP has not employed a high level mechanical engineer on 
the Sun Cell, given their enormous funding level and the needs of the project. 

He may not have the exact title “Lead Mechanical Engineer,” and if not then the 
present guy is being passed over, apparently.

Sooner or later, it is likely that Mills will have a defector – unless of 
course he really has a breakthrough, but all indications are that this is the 
latest in a long string of over-hyped failures.

Re: [Vo]:dark matter update--Mills' hydrinoes are a good bet

[mixent]

In reply to  JonesBeene's message of Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:04:30 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>Whoever provided the subject heading for this thread must have learned to 
>spell from Dan Quayle (former VP)… big grin.
>
>One a slightly more serious not - interesting News from BLP turned up on 
>another forum…
>
>https://jobs.physicstoday.org/jobs/10412104/lead-mechanical-engineer
>
>This is a job offering for Lead Mechanical Engineer at BLP. 
>
>The implication is that the present Lead Mechanical Engineer either quit or 
>was fired.

Are you sure that they ever had anyone in such a position? Recent work on the
SunCell etc. was contracted out to various engineering houses. This may be an
indication that they intend to bring it in house again.
[snip]
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

RE: [Vo]:dark matter update--Mills' hydrinoes are a good bet

[JonesBeene]

Whoever provided the subject heading for this thread must have learned to spell 
from Dan Quayle (former VP)… big grin.

One a slightly more serious not - interesting News from BLP turned up on 
another forum…

https://jobs.physicstoday.org/jobs/10412104/lead-mechanical-engineer

This is a job offering for Lead Mechanical Engineer at BLP. 

The implication is that the present Lead Mechanical Engineer either quit or was 
fired.

Given the salary is good, the only reason one quits this kind of company at 
such a critical time is when they see the hopelessness of the technology.

If the present Lead Mechanical Engineer was fired this could mean that he is 
being held responsible for the current lack of progress in bringing anything to 
market or even to bring some tiny bit of credibility to the company - since 
they have almost no credibility in Academia or the Energy sector. 

It would be interesting if that person who is being replaced were to surface 
and provide some info on what is really going on at BLP - but chances are that 
his/her silence has been bought with a generous golden parachute. 

Re: [Vo]:dark matter update--Mills' hydrinoes are a good bet

[mixent]

In reply to  bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Wed, 15 Nov 2017 14:45:31
+:
Hi Bob,
[snip]
>Robin—
>
>
>
>The hydrogen after forming Mills’s hydrino may become a Cooper pair of 
>protons, but not change to a D nucleus, but instead couple with 2 electrons 
>(paired) to form a neutral duplex BEC  of 0 spin and 0 charge.

Sounds like a molecule to me, which is exactly what I would expect. However if
you put two protons in close proximity to one another for long enough,
especially when there are also a couple of electrons handy, then there is an
improved chance that a deuteron will form, probably following the electron
capture branch.
Note that the binding energy of these molecules can be tens of keV, which
implies a very high temperature to break them.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

RE: [Vo]:dark matter update--Mills' hydrinoes are a good bet

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Robin—



The hydrogen after forming Mills’s hydrino may become a Cooper pair of protons, 
but not change to a D nucleus, but instead couple with 2 electrons (paired) to 
form a neutral duplex BEC  of 0 spin and 0 charge.



Bob Cook






From: mix...@bigpond.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:11:57 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:dark matter update--Mills' hydrinoes are a good bet

In reply to  Axil Axil's message of Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:54:31 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>Dark matter is 6 times more dense throughout the cosmos than bright matter,
>This means that in a newly forming star, dark matter would form most of the
>mass of the star and the dark matter would participate in the nuclear
>reactions via fusion. Would not the hydrino ionize under the pressure of
>gravity  in the core of the star and become bright matter again?

Maybe, although they are much "tougher" than ordinary Hydrogen, and don't ionize
nearly as easily, which would have consequences for the size of the star at the
point of ignition. Hydrinos should enhance tunneling probability, so it's also
possible that this is responsible for ignition rather than pressure. I haven't
run the numbers, so I'm guessing here.


Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

RE: [Vo]:dark matter update--Mills' hydrinoes are a good bet

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Brian-

I was fatigued after only about 30 pages.  I would say that a technical editor 
to reduce some of the non-essential experimental details is warranted to reach 
a wider audience.

Bob Cook


From: Brian Ahern 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 3:57:58 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; Jones Beene
Subject: Re: [Vo]:dark matter update--Mills' hydrinoes are a good bet


He has done it again!  60 pages with 84 references is enough to wear out even 
enthusiastic audiences.


His data is indisputable, because it takes too much effort to enter into a 
dialog.


Dialog???  He does not allow for dialogue; only ephemeral 'demos'.



From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:45 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:dark matter update--Mills' hydrinoes are a good bet


The spectra of hydrinoes match that spectra of cosmic radiation coming from the 
Milky Way and elsewhere per Mills.  See the following:



http://brilliantlightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/papers/EUV-Mechanism-051817.pdf



In addition  kIM’s presentation identifying the prediction of WIPMZILLAS at 
10e-24 eV would not be found by CERN.

http://susy10.uni-bonn.de/data/KimJEpreSUSY.pdf



Bob Cook




From: Axil Axil 
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 11:58:57 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:dark matter update

https://www.nature.com/news/dark-matter-hunt-fails-to-find-the-elusive-particles-1.22970

Dark-matter hunt fails to find the elusive particles

Physicists begin to embrace alternative explanations for the missing material.


http://frankwilczek.com/2017/axion_searches_01.pdf

Frank Wilczek surveys searches for his favorite dark matter alternative


On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Axil Axil 
mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
iF wimps existed, the LHC would have created them my now...sadly no wimps.

On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 1:34 PM, 
bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

For in update on dark matter ideas and experiments see:



http://vixra.org/pdf/1706.0528v1.pdf



In the Milky  Way it may be that the cosmic EM radiation is the annihilation of 
the particles making up dark matter at the center.  Wimps and anti wimps are 
suggested given the energy of the cosmic rays..



Bob Cook

Re: [Vo]:Time travel with Google books

[Alain Sepeda]

I learned science as a kid with a book (La science, ses progrès,ses
applications) that was written in the 19030s and updated in the 50-60s.
You could feel the wind of history from the Ancient amber to the
Magnetron... I'm shocked today by the historical ignorance that a kid of 15
have broke just by reading books, and hearing dad.

It is clearly a phase, a depresive phase, where people a rejecting
technology, raison Malthusian myths like every gfew generation when poor
get richer and start to frighten the lords, who teach their subjects the
technology who bring barbarians is the cause of all evil.

When rich activist teach the African what they should do about food,
ignoring what is starvation (unlike the African and my dad), I'm afraid.

This is where the elder should restore the values... the Promethean values
(I've read recently this Greek myth to my daughter, very disruptive in
today's mindset... not sure it would be allowed to read in in school today).

Today some activists propose to end democracy becase it cannot do what they
want, and the worst of all, is they have a tribune in a promeminent
newspaper in sweden give a tribune to that
https://www.svd.se/demokratin-maste-pausas-for-att-losa-klimatkrisen

I'm sad LENR does not grow, but even without LENR we could make the world
happy and wealthy, reasonably clean and free...


but what i see, especially those pretending to save the world, make me
deeply afraid.
Hopefull, in india, Africa, i see hope.. maybe my depression is only a
Western depression... anyway, i see that Western (and Arab) depression have
impact in Indonesia, at the crossing of two anti-promethean memeplex.



2017-11-15 0:05 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell :

> I have this book on my shelf:
>
> Editor T. White, "Our Wonderful Progress, The World's Triumphant Knowledge
> and Works," (1902). 768 pages.
>
> It turns out the complete text is now available at Google books:
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=ixgBoRvrwmoC&printsec=
> frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
>
> Have a look. You will see how the public viewed technology and progress in
> 1902. I think this was a popular book, because printed copies are widely
> available today from used bookstores for around $50. You will see the
> extent to which ordinary people understood technology and basic science.
>
> This was an optimistic era, as described by Walter Lord:
>
> The spirit of an era can’t be blocked out and measured, but it is there
> nonetheless. And in these brief, buoyant years it was a spark that somehow
> gave extra promise to life. By the light of this spark, men and women saw
> themselves as heroes shaping the world, rather than victims struggling
> through it.
>
> (Quoted by me: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcomparison.pdf)
>
> This world fell apart in 1914. As British Foreign Sec. Edward Grey said
> then: "The lamps are going out all over Europe: we shall not see them lit
> again in our life-time." He was right. We have never recovered, and perhaps
> we never will. I doubt that mankind will ever be so blithely optimistic
> again, or so willing to trust in science, technology and progress. Perhaps
> that is a good thing.
>
> - Jed
>
>