[Vo]:Re: Out of 1920
Here is the show. https://www.theothersideofmidnight.com/guest/frank-znidarsic/ I am not doing shows and lectures anymore. I sort of gave up. Frank Z
[Vo]:Re: Out of 1920
Thank you Terry. I was on the Dark Side of the Moon a few years ago. The show went well. An anatomy of an ancient headphone linked below. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temp/Inside.mov Frank Z
[Vo]:Out of 1920
I found these earphones at local flee market. They were $20. They were made by Schwarze Electric in Detroit circa 1923. I got them working with a minor repairs. I tried to attach cotton lamp cord. This did not work out so there they are with modern earphone wire. At least with this arrangement I can unplug them. These earphones are of a 3000 ohm high impedance design. The voice coil goes over a fixed magnet. The magnet operates on a thin steel armature with no electrical connections on it. The sound is very tinny and awfull The Radiola III actually sounds much better with modern low impedance earphones. There I am hoping to live to see the upcoming modern age of the low impedance high fidelity loud speaker. When you find something like this from the incipient age of electrical communication and get it working, you realize how short of a time that our modern electrical age has existed. Frank Znidarsic http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temp/OutOf1923.jpg
[Vo]:William Happer still at it
William Happer, one of the Bush admin scientists who led the attack on cold fusion, is still fighting against science. Still at war with the facts! You can look him up in the Google customer search box at LENR-CANR.org. He was in the news again today. See: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/13/us/politics/california-fires-trump-climate-change.html "William Happer, a former senior White House adviser and a Princeton physicist who had gained notoriety in the scientific community for statements that carbon dioxide was beneficial to humanity, began an effort last year to ensure that the next National Climate Assessment did not include worst-case scenarios. Although Mr. Happer left the White House last year, that effort is continuing, according to three people familiar with the matter." You can learn about him by entering "Happer" into the Google Custom search box at the top of LENR-CANR.org. This turns up documents that say things like: ". . . Hagelstein remembers Happer, then chairman of the Jasons, telling him to choose between cold fusion and his membership in the group." Such a charming person.
Re: [Vo]:Heat from under our feet?
In reply to H LV's message of Mon, 14 Sep 2020 13:13:59 -0400: Hi, [snip] >She isn't interested in how the heat is conveyed to the surface. Her >argument is that it can`t be discounted. Whether or not it can be discounted depends on how much of it there is. One would need to estimate the average power output of a "black smoker", and multiply by an estimate of their number to determine that. An estimate of their number can be obtained by taking some random samples of their density (number per km) along the "ring of fire". > >>However, in her mind heat is _only_ kinetic >> >energy so it can't be radiated into space unless that radiation is >> >received by a relatively cooler body in space. >> >> The relatively cooler body is space itself. > > >She doesn`t think space is an entity that is capable having of a >temperature. In her mind kinetic energy can only reside in material bodies. Kinetic energy can only reside in material bodies, however radiant energy and kinetic energy are interchangeable. Every body at a temperature above absolute zero radiates, and cools down as it does so. This is why night is colder than day. If the Earth didn't radiate heat into space at night the temperature wouldn't drop. If it didn't accept radiant energy from the Sun during the day, it wouldn't get warmer during the day. Obviously radiant energy can be converted into kinetic energy and vice versa. >Theoretically in a universe with only one black body with given >temperature, she would say it will shine indefinitely at the same >temperature unless there is another cooler or hotter black body somewhere >else in the universe with which it can exchange kinetic energy. Nonsense. > > >The only incoming energy of any significance is from other nearby bodies, >> i.e. the Sun, and the Moon, and thousands of orbiting satellites. ;) >> By far the most significant of these being the Sun (obviously). >> Note the temperature on the Moon when the thermometer is in shadow. >> ( >> https://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/ask/168-What-is-the-temperature-on-the-Moon- >> ) >> > > > >She would say that is because the moon has accepted kinetic energy from the >Sun. If the moon wasn`t there the Sun would have shed less kinetic energy. ...and exactly how is that kinetic energy supposed to be transferred from the Sun to the Moon if not via radiation? Let's get real, you can feel yourself getting warmer when you stand in sunlight. Step into the shade and the effect diminishes. The difference between the two positions is the presence/absence of direct radiant energy from the Sun. [snip]
Re: [Vo]:Nasty Microsoft
Who writes viruses for Linux? Publish their name and their computers will never work again thanks to Linux Lovers Anon. On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 1:36 PM Michael Foster wrote: > Sorry you got conned by Microsoft, Frank. Their totalitarian approach to > computer software is reprehensible. If you don't switch to a Linux OS, you > should at least download Libre Office, it's free and will pretty much do > anything you would want in terms of a word processor, spread sheet and the > rest. > > If you are new to Linux, I would suggest trying out Linux Mint, very user > friendly and easy to install as dual boot. > > Or.if you want to go total paranoid, like me, you can use a live Linux > CD with your hard drive unmounted whenever you are in the internet. All the > crap, cookies, malware and root kits will accumulate in volatile memory > until you turn off the computer and then it all just evaporates. I get a > great deal of satisfaction whenever I see a "can't access your profile" > notice pop up from a web site. I know the bastards have been thwarted once > again. > >
Re: [Vo]:Out of 1920
Those are really cool! I hope you're listening to "Dark Side of The Moon". Did you know it's on the soundtrack of the new Dune movie? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1160419/ There's a Jodorowsky Easter egg! Terry, Communications engineer for 43 years. On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 1:17 PM Frank Znidarsic wrote: > I found these earphones at local flee market. They were $20. They were > made by Schwarze Electric in Detroit circa 1923. I got them working with a > minor repairs. I tried to attach cotton lamp cord. This did not work out > so there they are with modern earphone wire. At least with this > arrangement I can unplug them. These earphones are of a 3000 ohm high > impedance design. The voice coil goes over a fixed magnet. The magnet > operates on a thin steel armature with no electrical connections on it. > The sound is very tinny and awfull The Radiola III actually sounds much > better with modern low impedance earphones. > > There I am hoping to live to see the upcoming modern age of the low > impedance high fidelity loud speaker. > > > When you find something like this from the incipient age of electrical > communication and get it working, you realize how short of a time that our > modern electrical age has existed. > > Frank Znidarsic > > > http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temp/OutOf1923.jpg >
Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion comic book "Discover Cold Fusion"
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 5:29 AM William Beaty wrote: > > It's out, see below! The CF comic book by Ruby C and Matt Howarth is now > for sale at https://www.curtis-press.com/ and shipping next week. > 5.95BPS or ~$7.65USD, 32pp., "Limited Print Edition" w/thicker cover. > > Send copies to just simply everyone? > If you can afford it. One copy is $18.20 with shipping. Thanks, Bill!
[Vo]:William Herschel and radiant heat
The following is an excerpt from Hasok Chang's "Who Cares about the History of Science?" Complete paper: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsnr.2016.0042 ** In addition to teaching us about the general contingency of the present, the study of the past also serves to expand our conceptual horizons more specifically. It is said that truth is stranger than fiction, and actual past science can go beyond our imagination because our imagination is usually heavily constrained by our present situation. The motto here is provided by the novelist L. P. Hartley, who opened The Go-Between thus: ‘The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.’ Learning history is broadening like travelling is meant to be broadening. It is a common occurrence for those of us who delve into old scientific texts to slap our knees and exclaim: yes, one could think like that! One quick example will illustrate this point well. The astronomer William Herschel, the discoverer of Uranus, is also known for his discovery of infrared light in 1800. However, that is not how Herschel himself and many of his contemporaries conceived the latter achievement; for them, what Herschel had done was to separate out, by means of the prism, rays of caloric (heat) from rays of light in the sunbeam.18 Herschel had probed the solar spectrum by placing a thermometer in various parts of it. Noting that the heating power increased as he moved towards the red end of the visible spectrum, Herschel tested whether it might continue into the dark space beyond the red, and indeed detected a great heating effect there. Joseph Banks, the long-time President of the Royal Society, wrote to Herschel in appreciation of his account of this discovery submitted to the Royal Society: ‘I have shown your second paper to Mr. Cavendish and to some other of my friends … and all are struck with the discovery, of Radiant Heat being separable from Radiant Light.’ Figure 3 shows Herschel's own representation of this interpretation, showing the distributions of ‘heat making rays’ and the light rays as clearly distinct entities. link to Figure 3. https://royalsocietypublishing.org/cms/asset/8b29db6a-d006-4768-aa63-8309f42e4393/rsnr20160042f03.jpg Recovery In addition to serving the role of opening our minds, past systems of science are valuable in themselves. This brings us to the function of history that consists in the recovery of lost scientific knowledge. Kuhn famously argued that when a scientific revolution happens, some knowledge that had been established in the old paradigm is liable to become lost. He accepted this as part of the normal course of scientific development, but there is no reason why historians should not contemplate with real appreciation what we dig up from the past. If the chemistry of phlogiston, and Antoine-Laurent Lavoisier's chemistry of oxygen and caloric, each once gave valid understanding of nature to the practitioners of those systems, then they can still provide that same understanding concerning the domains of phenomena in which they remain valid. This is how orthodox scientists in fact treat venerable old theories of physics such as geometric optics and Newtonian mechanics, which they still teach to every student of physics. That same appreciative attitude could be extended with benefit to some of the theories that orthodox science has now rejected. This agenda of recovery may be quite difficult to accept when it comes to theories. It is difficult to go against the confidence of present experts that the old theories were rejected for good reasons, and deserve to be forgotten. This is why experimental work is so valuable in this context, because our own judgement can more easily be independent when we come face-to-face with phenomena themselves. Let me illustrate this point with a few examples. In a study published in 1791, Marc-Auguste Pictet made a striking experiment in Geneva demonstrating the reality of radiant heat. He set up two concave metallic mirrors facing each other and placed a sensitive thermometer at the focus of one mirror; then he brought a hot but not glowing object into the focus of the other mirror, and observed that the thermometer reading began to rise immediately. The really surprising result came when Pictet made the same experiment with a cold object (a flask filled with snow): this time the temperature at the other focus began to sink immediately! Count Rumford, well-known to historians of science as a pioneer of the kinetic theory of heat (and the founder of the Royal Institution in London), unleashed a controversy by interpreting Pictet's result as a genuine action of ‘frigorific rays’, and performed striking new experiments to support his view.22 When faced with such reports from the past that seem alien to modern science, historians may try to confirm if the alleged phenomena can be reproduced; if so, then we will have recovered a piece of forgotten scientific knowledge.
Re: [Vo]:Nasty Microsoft
Sorry you got conned by Microsoft, Frank. Their totalitarian approach to computer software is reprehensible. If you don't switch to a Linux OS, you should at least download Libre Office, it's free and will pretty much do anything you would want in terms of a word processor, spread sheet and the rest. If you are new to Linux, I would suggest trying out Linux Mint, very user friendly and easy to install as dual boot. Or.if you want to go total paranoid, like me, you can use a live Linux CD with your hard drive unmounted whenever you are in the internet. All the crap, cookies, malware and root kits will accumulate in volatile memory until you turn off the computer and then it all just evaporates. I get a great deal of satisfaction whenever I see a "can't access your profile" notice pop up from a web site. I know the bastards have been thwarted once again.
Re: [Vo]:Heat from under our feet?
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 3:14 AM Robin wrote: > In reply to H LV's message of Sun, 13 Sep 2020 23:52:03 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] > >The heat flux from the Earth has been estimated, and she agrees with > >the value, but it is way too small to contribute to global warming > >according to the standard view of heat and radiation which is why it is > >ignored by climatologists. > > Her argument appears at first glance to involve the miscalculation of > radiation. So how is that supposed to be connected > to heating of the oceans from below? I'm not even sure which radiation she > is talking about, but I'm assuming she is > referring to the Earth as whole, as a radiating body. > > She isn't interested in how the heat is conveyed to the surface. Her argument is that it can`t be discounted. >However, in her mind heat is _only_ kinetic > >energy so it can't be radiated into space unless that radiation is > >received by a relatively cooler body in space. > > The relatively cooler body is space itself. She doesn`t think space is an entity that is capable having of a temperature. In her mind kinetic energy can only reside in material bodies. Theoretically in a universe with only one black body with given temperature, she would say it will shine indefinitely at the same temperature unless there is another cooler or hotter black body somewhere else in the universe with which it can exchange kinetic energy. The only incoming energy of any significance is from other nearby bodies, > i.e. the Sun, and the Moon, and thousands of orbiting satellites. ;) > By far the most significant of these being the Sun (obviously). > Note the temperature on the Moon when the thermometer is in shadow. > ( > https://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/ask/168-What-is-the-temperature-on-the-Moon- > ) > She would say that is because the moon has accepted kinetic energy from the Sun. If the moon wasn`t there the Sun would have shed less kinetic energy. This proves that heat can radiate into space quite nicely. Note that the reason it doesn't get even colder is because > the Lunar night is about 2 weeks, which isn't long enough for it to cool > down any further before the Sun starts heating > it up again. > Alternatively the moon is very endothermic. !?!? The huge difference between day and night on the Moon is because it has no > atmosphere. With significant thermal storage, > the difference between day and night could make a pretty effective energy > source, given the maximum Carnot efficiency of > about 76%. > > > >Because space is mostly > >empty this mean the internal heat of the Earth can contribute to global > >warming rather than escaping into space. > > It's not because space can't accept the heat, it's because the atmosphere > prevents it from escaping, note the difference > with the Moon here above. Or for heat added to ocean water from below, > because the oceans themselves mix the warm water > with cold spreading it out and raising the average temperature a bit. > > > > >(Following her logic this could explain why the sun's corona is much > hotter > >than the surface of the sun.) > > No it doesn't. > > Harry
RE: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"
Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: … Dense Hydrogen. aka "Hydrino", aka H*-H* is a weak nuclear bond between two protons. It can be exactly calculated by SO(4) physics and is in full agreement with Randall Mills measurement of so called 1/4 Hydrinos Jürg The H*H* which you describe above would seem to be neutral in net charge, weakly bound and very dense, correct? Will the dense hydrogen of your model interact with the nucleus of a host metal matrix as if it were two neutrons? Is this species diamagnetic?
[Vo]:Cold fusion comic book "Discover Cold Fusion"
It's out, see below! The CF comic book by Ruby C and Matt Howarth is now for sale at https://www.curtis-press.com/ and shipping next week. 5.95BPS or ~$7.65USD, 32pp., "Limited Print Edition" w/thicker cover. Send copies to just simply everyone? (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci on Fri, 11 Sep 2020, Ruby Carat wrote: I am happy to announce we now have a comic book about cold fusion and U.K. publisher Curtis-Press Publisher of Science will be shipping copies starting Sept. 21. You can order "Discover Cold Fusion" from their website at https://www.curtis-press.com/ The story is an effort to create a narrative about the controversy from the scientist's perspective and expand the awareness of the science to a wider goup. The beginning of the story is a brief history of various forms of energy that humans have used, and then our heroes are introduced. Artist Matt Howarth does a tremendous job depicting Martin Fleischmann and Stanley Pons as they discover cold fusion and deal with the consequences. Attached to this post is a short .pdf with the comic book cover and a (no, instead see https://www.discovercoldfusion.com/ also http://infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/ComicDiscoverColdFusion.pdf couple sample pages. These pages are the most "sciency" that it gets, and there is much of the drama that ensued after the news conference. There are cameos from the whole community of scientists who were first to try to replicate the experiment, though all the characters are more Icon than Individual. Sources for the text are listed on the website https://www.discovercoldfusion.com/. I hope you will all buy lots of copies and give them to your friends, family, and neighbors! Drop one at the dentist office. Mail one to your governing representatives. Drop one at the Boys and Girls Club, the high school science department, the college quad. Comic books are widely read these days by young and old. People will pick it up and check it out for the artwork alone, and get a dose of new science and history along with it. It is sold in the U.K. at British pounds. Here's a currency converter to help figure the cost. https://www.xe.com/ This Limited Print Edition has a slightly harder, laminated cover, different from a regular comic book paper cover, so it is a little more premium quality. Mike McKubre and Mel Miles consulted and gave lots of suggestions. However, all the story decisions made were mine and the artist's. Any flaws are my own. I hope you will enjoy this educational and fun object d'art and I look forward to your comments. With all that is going wrong in this world, I'm glad to offer something fun to hang our hope on. THANK YOU, Ruby
Re: [Vo]:Heat from under our feet?
In reply to H LV's message of Sun, 13 Sep 2020 23:52:03 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The heat flux from the Earth has been estimated, and she agrees with >the value, but it is way too small to contribute to global warming >according to the standard view of heat and radiation which is why it is >ignored by climatologists. Her argument appears at first glance to involve the miscalculation of radiation. So how is that supposed to be connected to heating of the oceans from below? I'm not even sure which radiation she is talking about, but I'm assuming she is referring to the Earth as whole, as a radiating body. >However, in her mind heat is _only_ kinetic >energy so it can't be radiated into space unless that radiation is >received by a relatively cooler body in space. The relatively cooler body is space itself. The only incoming energy of any significance is from other nearby bodies, i.e. the Sun, and the Moon, and thousands of orbiting satellites. ;) By far the most significant of these being the Sun (obviously). Note the temperature on the Moon when the thermometer is in shadow. (https://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/ask/168-What-is-the-temperature-on-the-Moon-) This proves that heat can radiate into space quite nicely. Note that the reason it doesn't get even colder is because the Lunar night is about 2 weeks, which isn't long enough for it to cool down any further before the Sun starts heating it up again. The huge difference between day and night on the Moon is because it has no atmosphere. With significant thermal storage, the difference between day and night could make a pretty effective energy source, given the maximum Carnot efficiency of about 76%. >Because space is mostly >empty this mean the internal heat of the Earth can contribute to global >warming rather than escaping into space. It's not because space can't accept the heat, it's because the atmosphere prevents it from escaping, note the difference with the Moon here above. Or for heat added to ocean water from below, because the oceans themselves mix the warm water with cold spreading it out and raising the average temperature a bit. >(Following her logic this could explain why the sun's corona is much hotter >than the surface of the sun.) No it doesn't.
