Re: [Vo]:ORBO Spring Eternal

2009-09-22 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Stephen sez: > I'd bet any amount that it fizzles. > > They've shown their true colors already; why believe anything they say > about their alleged miraculous new technology? > > OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: >> http://freeenergytruth.blogspot.com/2009/09/orbo-launch-countdown-begins-

[Vo]:Free Energy Times Interviews Sean McCarthy of STEORN:

2009-09-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
FWIW, Free Energy Times Interviews Sean McCarthy, of STEORN: http://www.freeenergytimes.com/?p=46 Excerpts: Here is a transcript of the email exchange which took place; Sean McCarthy’s responses were sent to me on September 22, 2009. ... FET: In a statement made earlier this year you stated t

Re: [Vo]:clever electric bike design

2009-09-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jones: ... > Compared to Europe, where there is a significantly larger participation in > eco-transportation – the situation here in the USA is terrible. I see my > neighbor driving her 3-ton Land Rover SUV down the hill simply to get the > mail. Then later she drives over to the health clu

Re: [Vo]:The source of the disagreement over cold fusion

2009-09-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
As best as I can tell the on-going dispute between Mr. Rothwell and Dr. Swartz appears to revolve around Dr. Swartz desire to prove that Jed "censors" experimental data from CF researchers, himself included. Meanwhile, from Jed's perspective, it would appear that Dr. Swartz refuses to follow a few

Re: [Vo]:Swartz is running a extortion racket

2009-09-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
For the record, and as best as I can tell, Dr. Swartz has never had anything bad to say about anyone's mother. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Swartz is running a extortion racket

2009-10-02 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Robin and Abd: >> Actually none of this is necessary. If it is posted on his own >> website, then all you need on LENR-CANR.org is a URL pointing to >> it iso to your own web site. It wouldn't matter in the slightest >> to the rest of the world where the actual document resides. > > Robin ha

Re: [Vo]:An extreme skeptic

2009-10-02 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
> If you have not dealt with a skeptic lately, here is a reminder of what they > are like: > > http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=1940 > > Scroll down to the bottom and you will see that this person absolutely > rejects any paper not published in a U.S. peer-reviewed journal. He will not > even

Re: [Vo]:Our Jobless Startrek Future

2009-10-08 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Chris sez: Just imagine what would happen to our economy if we had a device like the > Replicator on Startrek. Anyone could have anything from clothing to gold > bars to Earl Grey Tea instantly. The overall effect would be profoundly > deflationary and the only jobs that remained would be menial

Re: [Vo]:Dyson bladeless fan

2009-10-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Pete sez: > Terry Blanton wrote: > >> I have the vacuums; but, $300 seems a bit much for a 10 inch fan. > > $29.95 at Home Depot once the Chinese slave labor camps start churning > them out Time for another political purge. Hey! It's just business. Nothing personal. Regards Steven Vincent John

[Vo]:Follow-up Kiplinger Forecast link on China's Control Over Rare Minerals

2009-10-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
http://www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/forecast/archive/chinas-control-over-rare-minerals-troubles.html http://tinyurl.com/yl7tfxv -- Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Monopoles detected

2009-10-16 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Harry sez: > Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet for the first time > > Researchers from the Helmholtz Centre Berlin, in cooperation with > colleagues from Dresden, St. Andrews, La Plata and Oxford, have for the > first time observed magnetic monopoles and how they emerge in a real > mate

Re: [Vo]:paper out in IE..I hear nothing

2009-10-20 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Frank sez: > I don't know.  My niece found in at Barns and Nobile in Tampa. > I found it in Books a Million in Charlotte.  It is very good work. > Its everywhere, however, its as if it were a non event. > > Frank Z Patience, you must have. Fame and fortune are the values a scientist must worship

Re: [Vo]:Vu1 ESL lighting technology

2009-10-21 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Hoyt sez: > However, since Steorn and BlackPower are coming out with > free energy technologies soon it's kind of irrelevent about > efficiency, isn't it? Even a hypothetical "free energy" BLP generator in my basement would end up costing me something, though presumably a lot less than what I'm c

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:The Strange World of “Cold Fusion”

2009-10-27 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: ... > It may be that a few people who spend a lot of effort disputing > the Mills theory. I have heard there are some on the Mills > discussion group. But that is an unusual case. That theory > attracts a lot of interest. ... You speculate "it may be" ??? It certainly has generated pl

[Vo]:OT: "Found: first 'skylight' on the moon"

2009-10-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
An interesting "Moon" article: Title: "Found: first 'skylight' on the moon" http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18030-found-first-skylight-on-the-moon.html http://tinyurl.com/ykgfsrd Excerpt: Finding such an opening could be a boon for possible human exploration of the moon (see What NASA's

Re: [Vo]:OT: "Found: first 'skylight' on the moon"

2009-10-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: > Ackshully, rampant speculation preceded this announcement due to the > LCROSS debacle: > > http://www.enterprisemission.com/SmokingGun.htm > > http://www.enterprisemission.com/SmokingGun2.htm > > Enjoy! Let the games begin! Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzl

Re: [Vo]:Heat is the principal signature of the reaction

2009-10-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Xcuse me as another non-scientist butts in, >From Lawry: > Jed, a point of information, from this non-scientist: > > I understand that you are saying that heat, above all else, > is the required product, and that any other products are of > secondary importance when it comes to asserting that the

Re: [Vo]:Heat is the principal signature of the reaction

2009-10-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Mike sez: > This discussion ignores the elephant in the room. a) Heat is *fundamental* > and scalar, particles and radiation are not. Because it is fundamental, many > factors affect heat and careful experimental technique is essential. b) > Commercial value [i.e. money] is for utility for motive

Re: [Vo]:Reactionless drive claim: Emdrive

2009-10-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Horace: > http://www.emdrive.com/ > > http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/10/impossible-drive-designers-dream-flying-cars-stealth-missiles/ We’ve seen the photograph of this contraption in the past. I’m sure this topic has been discussed within the Vort Collective, if one were to go throug

Re: [Vo]:Heat is the principal signature of the reaction

2009-10-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Abd sez: > The idea that excess heat is easier to detect reliably than > radiation is downright weird. It might seem weird to you. But it's a probably whole lot safer looking for anomalous heat as compared to anomalous neutrons and other sub-atomic particles. I have a story to recount. Many ye

Re: [Vo]:Reactionless drive claim: Emdrive

2009-11-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: >> They will write impassioned ballads of unfortunate ships flung out >> of the solar system. > I think it is more likely they will dispatch a ship to repair or tow > the derelict ship back to the nearest port. You are, of course, correct. Alas, taking the romance out of exploiting anot

Re: [Vo]:Reactionless drive claim: Emdrive

2009-11-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
They will write impassioned ballads of unfortunate ships flung out of the solar system. David Bowe, who wrote the haunting ballad "Ground Control to Major Tom" is probably prophetic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Tom http://tinyurl.com/yhp8ts8 Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com

Re: [Vo]:Reactionless drive claim: Emdrive

2009-11-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Robin, > In reply to  Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:33:34 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] >>Robin van Spaandonk wrote: >>> (BTW minimum travel time to Mars at >>> 1 g is 2 days.) >> >>I did not know it was that close. Any idea what the max is? > > The simplest calculation yields 4.5 da

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Swine flu

2009-11-05 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Mr. Lawrence > Some of you may have been debating whether to get the vaccine or not. > > Here are a couple of personal observations... > >  -- They say it's not very deadly.  Well, I guess it's not, we're all > still alive here. > >  -- They say it's not usually very serious.  Well, I guess

Re: [Vo]:Park, memory ..some debunkers are pseudoscientists

2009-11-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Abd sez: ... > I'm not ready yet, but, looking ahead, do you > think I could get Robert Park to denounce my > Kitchen Fusion kits? Just drop him a line when you get up to speed. I bet he would oblige. No problemo! ;-) > (Too bad it's not fission, Kitchen Fission would > be a great name. I supp

Re: [Vo]:Re: New Energy Times News Flash: DoD Report Released

2009-11-17 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Mark & Jed sez: ... >> Again, its a perception battle, and the goal is not to convince the diehard >> (pathological) skeptics like Park; its to persuade the average Science or >> Nature reader, the average researcher . . . > > That's true, and it is important. There is no point in trying to convi

[Vo]:OT: Drilling of a different kind in Antarctica

2009-11-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
"...sipping on Shackleton’s preferred hooch." http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2009/11/17/in-antarctica-drilling-for-100-year-old-whiskey/ http://tinyurl.com/yzce9vn Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Hilarious response to DIA paper in Wikipedia

2009-11-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: ... > It was published by the Agency. Just not on the Internet. It was released on > Friday the 13th. Do you think I would upload unpublished material?!? Do you > think I want to get in trouble with a Federal agency? I presume not! ;-) ...but that does not answer the principal question

Re: [Vo]:Hilarious response to DIA paper in Wikipedia

2009-11-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: > Steven V Johnson wrote: >> ...but that does not answer the principal question: How does one >> verify its pedigree? >> >> For those of us (particularly me!) who may not be as quick witted as >> you appear to be can you clarify how you went about verifying the >> presumed legitimacy of

Re: [Vo]:Hilarious response to DIA paper in Wikipedia

2009-11-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: > (By the way, they said they can't provide it in Acrobat text format. > A shame.) Another fine example of our tax dollars working for our benefit! Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.orionworks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Hilarious response to DIA paper in Wikipedia

2009-11-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sed: > I guess you could ask the Agency but I expect your request would be > lost in the shuffle. and... > I am sure of the pedigree because the authors sent me the document. For which I sed: > That's a good point. Thanks for revealing that little tidbit. For which Jed sed: > I said that

Re: [Vo]:Not sure the DIA document will have a big impact

2009-11-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: ... > I can understand why mass media outlets such as CBS "60 Minutes" would have > a large impact on public opinion. It is because many people watch > television, and because the mass media -- especially broadcast media -- has > a certain cachet or glamour that makes people believe what

Re: [Vo]:How to confirm that a document at LENR-CANR.org is real

2009-11-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Mauro sez: > This is a good summary. > Maybe you could publish a version of it somewhere at lenr-canr.org. It > surely will not hurt, and could help first comers with doubts about the > validity of the sources and the information presented. ... I agree! Write it up, Jed! That is, during one of

Re: [Vo]:How to confirm that a document at LENR-CANR.org is real

2009-11-20 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: > Steven V Johnson wrote: >>Mauro sez: >> >> > This is a good summary. >> > Maybe you could publish a version of it somewhere at >> > lenr-canr.org. It surely will not hurt, and could help >> > first comers with doubts about the validity of the sources >> > and the information presented.

Re: [Vo]:Is Galileo's DNA still viable?

2009-11-20 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jones sez: ... > Of course, there is *zero assurance* that the “clone of a genius” will > follow in the footsteps of the progenitor... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_from_Brazil_(film) Speaking of cloning, don't forget Sir Lawrence of Olivier Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWork

Re: [Vo]:How to confirm that a document at LENR-CANR.org is real

2009-11-20 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: >> But IMHO, it seems to me that occasionally you DO care what >> others think. >I care what some people think. Especially intelligence analysts. > My point is that it would be politically inept to bring up > these issueson LENR-CANR.org. Imagine a contractor shows up at > your door to d

Re: [Vo]:Long interview with Taubes

2009-11-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Beaty sez: >> What a creep! See: http://www.thedailybell.com/BellPage.asp?nid=604 > His article fails the basic pseudoscience test ...and he even > MENTIONS this test for detecting pseudoscience! > > It might seem quite bizarre at first. Don't people typically use > the Golden Rule, and apply th

Re: [Vo]:Global Warming

2009-11-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jeff Fink: > THE GLOBAL WARMING SCAM > > There is interesting news as a result of leaked e-mails. It shows that the > scientists who have been pushing the man made global warming agenda have > been suppressing and altering data. ... Speaking of "agendas", read: "THE FAMILY, The Secret Fun

Re: [Vo]:OT (sort of): 2000-2009: the 21 Century decade of Extraordinary claims?

2009-11-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
In regards to STEORN, I sez: > ... I myself have yet to reconcile within myself how STEORN's engineers could > have gotten as far as they claim to have gotten with their alleged ORBO > technology, but then not have pre-tested the prototype within the same harsh > environment where it would go on p

[Vo]:OT: Scientists grow pork meat in a laboratory

2009-12-01 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed, You might enjoy the following article from Times OnLine: "Scientists grow pork meat in a laboratory" http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article6936352.ece http://tinyurl.com/ycq7w86 Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

[Vo]:OT: Scientists grow pork meat in a laboratory (Follow-up)

2009-12-01 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Steven Vincent Johnson sez: >Jed, > > You might enjoy the following article from Times OnLine: > > "Scientists grow pork meat in a laboratory" > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article6936352.ece > http://tinyurl.com/ycq7w86 Oh dear! I just HAVE to share one of the comments made b

Re: [Vo]:OT: Scientists grow pork meat in a laboratory (Follow-up)

2009-12-01 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: ... > Just imagine what this guy will say when meat from the cells of homo sapiens > comes on the market. > > I think that is inevitable. See Arthur C. Clarke's short story, "Food of the > Gods." aka "long pork". http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/long_pork Regards Steven Vincent Johnson w

Re: [Vo]:OT: Scientists grow pork meat in a laboratory (Follow-up)

2009-12-01 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: > Just imagine what this guy will say when meat from the cells of homo sapiens > comes > on the market. > > I think that is inevitable. See Arthur C. Clarke's short story, "Food of the > Gods." I must confess that my first reaction was one of revulsion. Me??? A practicing cannibal T

Re: [Vo]:OT: Scientists grow pork meat in a laboratory (Follow-up)

2009-12-01 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez > Seriously, so what? I honestly don't find anything scary about it. I admit I > might hesitate to try the stuff myself. But I am not an adventurous eater. I'm curious. Why do you suspect you might hesitate to sample it? Is it still a cultural issue, like it might be for me? Do you suspec

Re: [Vo]:OT: Scientists grow pork meat in a laboratory (Follow-up)

2009-12-01 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Hollins sez: > There are cultures where, at a certain age, the elderly > are ritually killed, and served up to their tribe. NOT > eating your dear aunt was considered dreadfully insulting > to her spirit. Very tight family dynamics. They must have read "Stranger in a Strange Land". Regards Stev

[Vo]:Just how stupid is Al Gore, anyway?

2009-12-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Examiner.com recently posted an article that obviously is not Al Gore friendly, titled “Just how stupid is Al Gore, anyway?” See: http://www.examiner.com/x-31244-Louisville-Public-Policy-Examiner~y2009m12d3-Just-how-stupid-is-Al-Gore-anyway http://tinyurl.com/yddzj6m What piqued my curiosity wa

Re: [Vo]:Alternapedia article on cold fusion lists pros and cons

2009-12-07 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jed: > The whole thing is written by Pierre Carbonnelle, which explains why > it is well researched. On the home page I noticed Pierre is also interested in bequeathing Alternapedia to another responsible party. I can bet it was a lot of work to put together. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson

Re: [Vo]:Crematorium to use burning bodies to generate electricity

2009-12-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: > On the other hand: > > http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,665824,00.html > > 12/08/2009 > > Stone Age Mystery > German Excavation Reveals Signs of Mass Cannibalism > > By Angelika Franz > Was it mass cannibalism, ritual slaughter or both? Archaeologists > who unearthe

Re: [Vo]:Crematorium to use burning bodies to generate electricity

2009-12-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: >> For a less palatable interpretation of this practice see "The Road" >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road >> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0898367/ > > I see the movie was just released. > > I sure you remember the ending to this one: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Boy_and_Hi

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Esa Ruoho: > Thanks for the phonenumber :-) > > iPoni sent dis message. Esa Ruoho wrote it. > > On 14.12.2009, at 18.16, Terry Blanton wrote: > >> From moletrap.co.uk home of the Village of the Damned, former forum >> members of Steorn: >> >>     CommentAuthor    speccy >>   * CommentTime

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Esa > i rung them and they said the steorn demo starts tomorrow, > and is closed from 24th onwards till the end of the year due > to xmas hollies, but that it'll be open on 21st and 22nd, > so i'll try and visit it. + its free, so hey.. brisk walk > in dublin, maybe a few magnets. should be

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Personally, I just wish the damned contraption was hooked up to a light bulb. Hell! If the thing was doing nothing more than powering a couple of energy efficient LEDs, for several weeks straight, now THAT would impress me more than the current battery "recharging" configuration. For me, personall

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Craig: >> "Personally, I just wish the damned contraption was hooked >> up to a light bulb. Hell! If the thing was doing nothing >> more than powering a couple of energy efficient LEDs, for >> several weeks straight, now THAT would impress me more than >> the current battery "recharging"

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Mr. Lawrence: ... > This is not the behavior of someone [Newman] who is confused or ignorant. > A confused, ignorant person who didn't quite understand what he was doing > would not see the need to dodge the "trap" in the question, "what is the > output power?". An honest person would try,

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-16 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Hoyt, Can you help us (me) out here... without violating the principals of the NDA. Can it be conclusively proven (at least beyond a reasonable amount of doubt) that the battery is in no way connected to the actual running of the ORBO device? This HAS to be dealt with. This HAS to be clarified.

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-16 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Regarding recent comments made by Hoyt Stearns: ... > Their strategy is rather bizarre, but in a way I think it is > ingenious for many reasons (speculative): > > They must prove that their techniques are not "obvious to anyone > skilled in the art" for patentability, even though they are > extre

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-16 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: >> Didn't someone have a theory that they were doing all this just to show how >> good they are at running a PR campaign? > > Maybe that's it; otherwise, I can't figure them out. > > Why would they risk another failed demo after 2007? I don't admit to having an answer, but I do know th

Re: [Vo]:OT : Avatar trailers and clips

2009-12-16 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
> Avatar trailers and clips (9 videos) > > http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809804784/video/17077180 Thanks for the link, Harry. While watching one of the trailers I saw images that reminded me of a painting I did back in 1979, when I was 27 years old. http://orionworks.com/artgal/svj/path_m.htm

Re: [Vo]:Executive Director of the AIP says cold fusion is "wrong" and "fraud"

2009-12-17 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: > Response from website operator to me: > > Thank you for commenting on the Physics Today web site. Your comment has not > been approved for publication in accordance with our editorial standards and > the disclaimer on the web site. > > Sincerely > > Paul Guinnessy > Manager, Physics Tod

Re: [Vo]:Executive Director of the AIP says cold fusion is "wrong" and "fraud"

2009-12-17 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: >> I sincerely believe this hypothesis to be true. > > Then you have never heard of Claxton, GA.  Allow me to educate you: > > http://www.claxtonfruitcake.com/index.php This website is an obvious clever hoax. I'm surprised that you fell for it Terry! ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson

Re: [Vo]:The discovery of Hydra-Jinn

2009-12-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Rick sez: > I can't wait until the detection threshold comes down - like to the level of > moons around these big planets. Bet that's where the action is as long as > the system is in the liquid water zone. I agree with this hypothesis. I've always felt that a lot of the real action could very we

Re: FW: [Vo]:Steorn Advertisement

2009-12-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: >> By the way, I just noticed out at Steorn's home page that they have closed >> the live stream to VIEW 2. > > On the Village of the Banned forum, there always seems to be someone > watching and logging when the cameras are off or when "Tachoman" shows > up to do maintenance on the mac

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
According to one of my latest Google news alerts Steorn just made CNN news. However, I can't seem to find the link anywhere on cnn's web site. Does anyone know anything about this? Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Stephen Lawrence ... > ... But he's [MADOFF] **NOT** held up as an example of a > "successful" con artist, because he (a) had no exit strategy, ... Ok, then then what's Steorn's "exit strategy?" The whole Storn group (at the correct strategic moment) buys themselves one-way tickets to th

Re: [Vo]:New hypothesis about what Steorn is up to

2009-12-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: > The news that Steorn is advertising their own failure on Al Jazerra is mind > boggling. > > What to make of this? Are these people extremely clever and using reverse > psychology? Or are they what they appear to be: stupid, incoherent, and > flapping around trying one scheme after anoth

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Abd: ... > Yet it appears to be working, Steven. You are making > assumptions about how they will proceed, and, also, > assumptions about what is involved in the NDAs. Of course I'm making lots of assumptions. Some of them may even stretch the sensibilities of Occam's Razor. Guilty as char

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Orbo Technology Update

2009-12-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: > I am contacting Lenz Law Enforcement and ratting out Sean McCarthy.  :-) Mongo plans on watching, from a safe distance. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:The Wrights' approach to the British and U.S. Army

2009-12-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Stephen Lawrence: > ... Jed Rothwell wrote: >> >> At this point we need the academics. We should ignore the critics. The >> Wrights should have! They should have dealt with the British War Office >> instead of the U.S. War Department, because the British understood and >> appreciated what t

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Stephen Lawrence: ... > ... Oh, I agree that Steorn's fate won't be resolved. Mongo [in a rare moment of pensive self-reflection] tends to disagree. Mongo want to see a light bulb real soon. No light bulb soon, Mongo send candygram to Sean. Light bulb! Light bulb! Light bulb! Regards S

Re: [Vo]:"Pycnodeuterium" under a different name?

2010-01-04 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: > That's astounding if true. Someone should acquaint Prof. Holmlid with cold > fusion and the claims of Arata and others who have reported high loading of > nano-particles. > > I nominate Jones Beene to write to him. Seconded... Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazz

[Vo]:Home fuel cell technology that charges gadgets.

2010-01-05 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Kinda cool... http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/01/04/green.power.horizon/ Steve -- Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]: Yet another Wikipedia use of CF in a bad light...

2010-01-05 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Stephen: > The "theory of cold fusion" would be a theory explaining > how such nuclei join, not simply the assertion that they do > join. The assertion that fusion happens at room temperature > is a simple binary statement, and is either true or false; > it's quite different from what is me

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Rescheduling of Steorn Talk#2 from 8th january to week of 11th january

2010-01-08 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Terry: > Actually, the delay might be the result of TinselKoala's videos on youtube. I watched one of TinselKoala's videos when it first came out. I seem to recall that it came out almost immediately after Orbo's debut out at the Waterfront. I was not aware that there are now multiple you-

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Rescheduling of Steorn Talk#2 from 8th january to week of 11th january

2010-01-08 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Actually, Esa, speaking strictly for myself, I have no problem whatsoever in accepting the obvious - that adverse weather conditions are indeed the primary reason that the latest demo had to be rescheduled. FWIW, I live in Madison, Wisconsin, the midwest. Significant portions of our country just ex

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Rescheduling of Steorn Talk#2 from 8th january to week of 11th january

2010-01-08 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Terry: > He is also known as Alsetalokin and you might remember a video of > an alleged pure magnetic motor he did previously. And, yes, he is > a skeptic. Indeed, I remember Alsetalokin. I thought they were the same individual. The narrator's voice was the same. I also remember, with muc

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Rescheduling of Steorn Talk#2 from 8th january to week of 11th january

2010-01-08 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Terry: > All I have ever read is that he says the motor was definitely not OU. > But, AFAIK, he never admitted to a hoax.  And no one ever replicated > although many tried. Sheesh! As if that doesn’t muddy Alsetalokin’s position anymore than where the matter currently stands. Assuming the

Re: [Vo]:The latest from Roger Stringham

2010-01-08 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: ... > With people like Roger, if you wait for things to be written and > published according to schedule, you wait in vain. So I bend the > rules at LENR-CANR to accommodate him. They aren't really rules, > anyway. As Elizabeth said in "Pirates of the Caribbean": > > "Hang the code, and

[Vo]:CNN: Is 'golden age for inventors' at hand?

2010-01-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/01/12/invent/index.html You mean my defragmentizer dander dispatcher collecting dust in my garage is worth millions? Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup shots of steorn talk#2 demo-rig

2010-01-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Stephen: ... > Sure, you can ruin magnets in a motor, but that's not at > all the same as *making* *use* of the magnetic field of the > magnets as it degrades -- i.e., loss of magnetization is always > just an artifact, never something vital to the motor's > operation. I'm a little confuse

Re: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup shots of steorn talk#2 demo-rig

2010-01-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From: Esa > http://freeorbo.wordpress.com/2010/01/12/cop_live/ Excerpt: > 11:44 Question: Why aren’t product developers jumping up > and down? > Answer [Sean?]: They are. Ever since Dec. 15th people are > knocking their doors down. Licenses open on February 1st, > we’ll see how many developers a

Re: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup shots of steorn talk#2 demo-rig

2010-01-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Terry: >> Steorn deserves to give its audience a more thorough explanation >> [in regards to why Steorn used a battery instead of a capacitor.] >> I hope it is forth coming. > > I seriously doubt it since the statement is false. IIRC, he said that > the capacitor was too slow in current deli

Re: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup shots of steorn talk#2 demo-rig

2010-01-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Abd: >> Tl;dw is a great way to go. I give you a WTG for this one, >> possibly followed by a few other acronyms, which I dislike, >> such as "LOL" and "OMG" Even I had the time to watch >> the live presentation, and I can't finish most documentaries >> or even a song. > The writer here

Re: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup shots of steorn talk#2 demo-rig

2010-01-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Terry: > The Orbo is a motor as I am sure we will all agree. > In order for the motor to be OU, it must be outputting > more mechanical energy than electrical energy it consumes. > > Somehow Steorn must measure the torque or have the motor > perform work, eg lift a weight, pump water, etc.

Re: [Vo]:steorn addendum video posted on youtube

2010-01-20 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Terry: > All the technical people are flabbergasted by the latest video.  We > are now convinced that it's all a joke.  The Irish do love a punch > line and that is just the phrase Sean has used. > > Unfortunately, many people we call "the believers", are now suffering > from the Dunning-Kru

Re: [Vo]:steorn addendum video posted on youtube

2010-01-20 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Mr. Lawrence: ... > Oh, and I don't believe there will ever be a "revelation". > The punch line will forever be delayed, and the results > will remain ambiguous. Sean will continue to go along > pretending he's shown things that he hasn't in an effort > to keep the True Believers bringing i

Re: [Vo]:steorn addendum video posted on youtube

2010-01-21 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Michel: >> My point was that Mr. & Mrs. Jane & Joe Public are not the >> "entities" Steorn is going after. Steorn is mostly going >> after companies, enterprises, corporate entities (big >> or small) that might be interested. > I think on the contrary that the entirety of their licensing >

Re: [Vo]:steorn addendum video posted on youtube

2010-01-21 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Michel: ... >> Yes, indeed, I agree that anyone, including myself can purchase >> an ORBO license - a flat fee. I have no idea what an ORBO >> license would cost me, but it's probably more than I would care >> to spend. But why would I want to? What could I do with an ORBO >> license? Tinke

Re: [Vo]:steorn addendum video posted on youtube

2010-01-21 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Peatbog sez: > The cost is 419 euros per year. Here are the terms: > http://www.steorn.com/orbo/licensing/ Thanks for the clarification. The "initiation fee" is certainly way too steep for my tastes! Interesting that it's an annual fee. One assumes that the renewable annual fee is in order to rec

Re: [Vo]:steorn addendum video posted on youtube

2010-01-21 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Abd sez: ... > Get this: lying, as such, is not illegal. Most > subscribers to this list are really space aliens, and > I'm not yet revealing my secret knowledge, because I > must protect my sources. However, I need money, so if > you want the evidence apply for a disclosure license, > which I wi

Re: [Vo]:Pycno-pockets?

2010-01-22 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
> Just take along cans of Fancy Feast.  Hey it worked in District 9. > And the Pandorians really are cats. An excellent film that unfortunately will be stampeded by Avatar. I can see it now. Coming to your local science fiction convention. Bumper stickers: "Cat Food Sold Here!" Regards Steven

Re: [Vo]:Pycno-pockets?

2010-01-22 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: > I see from your Google avatar, you are a Pandorian. As are you. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:STEORN: "THE FINAL DEMO" ... "...PROVING OVERUNITY"

2010-01-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Additional noise: http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,100567,10014947o-2000331777b,00.htm Exerpt: "In the past, Sean has said that the Orbo will manage this to the tune of 3:1 - in other words, churning out three watts for every watt of input. The Saturday demo, our sources confide, will be

Re: [Vo]:STEORN: "THE FINAL DEMO" ... "...PROVING OVERUNITY"

2010-01-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Mr. Lawrence > Either it has been putting out 3:1 or it hasn't. > > If it has, why can't they demo 3:1, or rather 2:1 > mechanical:electrical? (Knock off 100% for the > amount of input power converted to heat.) Have > they forgotten how they used to do it? ;-) Someone can correct me if I

Re: [Vo]:STEORN: "THE FINAL DEMO" ... "...PROVING OVERUNITY"

2010-01-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
I gotta hand it to those Steorn folks... Their latest advert is both blunt and dramatic. Steorn's web site sez: "Final Demo: PROVING OVERUNITY Saturday 16.00 GMT at Steorn.com" --- Barring unforeseen "technical difficulties", it is difficult for me to perceive how Steorn could possibly wiggle t

Re: [Vo]:OT: Space travel, moon colonization.

2010-01-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Alexander: > Is anyone here familiar with any organizations dedicated > to helping push along space travel? Used to be the L-5 Society. Seems L-5 merged with the National Space Institute and the duo renamed themselves the National Space Society http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/N/

Re: [Vo]:Contropedia

2010-01-27 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
It’s been my experience that whenever a subject being researched is initially perceived in black & white terms, there seems to be a tendency to filter the sources. In such cases it doesn’t seem to matter all that much what sources one uses as “references.” As the old saying goes: Get a second opin

Re: [Vo]:Contropedia

2010-01-27 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
I recommend Wikipedia be renamed to OAHpedia. That's pronounced as: "Oh Pedia" * * The "OAH" stands for "occasionally accurate hearsay". Do I hear a second? Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Contropedia

2010-01-27 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Stephen sez: >> I recommend Wikipedia be renamed to OAHpedia. >> >> That's pronounced as: "Oh Pedia" * >> >> * The "OAH" stands for "occasionally accurate hearsay". >> >> Do I hear a second? > > If you care enough to check sources, an awful lot of the facts in > Wikipedia are referenced to externa

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Terry: ... > Turn the ignition off and shift to neutral if you encounter the > problem.  If you have a push button starter, hold the button down for > over 3 seconds for a forced shutdown. Sounds like the same kind of instructions you might give someone who needs to perform an emergency po

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Mr. Lawrence: ... > This doesn't make me want to run out and buy a Toyota, whether > or not they eventually declare the problem 'fixed'. X-actly what Toyota fears the most, I suspect. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

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