Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-10 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com viahttp://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=enctx=mailanswer=1311182 eskimo.com 11:45 AM (15 hours ago) to vortex-l Edmund Storms https://plus.google.com/u/0/112904824327993917962?prsrc=4 writes: Yes, but all of these processes you describe are done

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-10 Thread Edmund Storms
I don't understand your point. Laser stimulation has been done many times and it simply adds energy to the process. Energy can be added by increased temperature and application of applied current, which also increases the power. This changes nothing basic about the process nor reveals how

RE: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-10 Thread Jones Beene
Kevin - I could not open that document, but it sounds similar to the Letts/Cravens effect. Can you post the abstract? The Letts/Cravens effect could end up being more important than anyone realizes if the polariton is involved. Here is a Krivit interview with D.C. on the general subject.

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-10 Thread Alain Sepeda
it seems not to work, but http://repository.ias.ac.in/64627/ and public paper link http://repository.ias.ac.in/64627/1/10-pub.pdf works better 2013/2/10 Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-10 Thread Edmund Storms
Everyone seems to have an explanation of the laser effect. I think all agree that the laser can stimulate energy states in the surface. What these states do to initiate LENR is the big question. Hagelstein proposes that the laser stimulates phonons that initiate a fusion reaction in metal

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-10 Thread Axil Axil
*The basic questions are, Why does the laser effect work when the surface is covered with gold so that the PdD was not actually exposed to the laser and why does a single laser work sometimes and a duel laser is required at other times? * If you want to understand LENR, you must understand how

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-10 Thread Kevin O'Malley
. Laser stimulation has been done many times and it simply adds energy to the process. ***That was my misconception as well. But when I talked to KP Sinha on the phone, he assured me that the process he was involved in for exposing the LENR environment to lasers was a way to REMOVE energy from

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-10 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net viahttp://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=enctx=mailanswer=1311182 eskimo.com 8:10 AM (5 hours ago) to vortex-l Kevin - I could not open that document, but it sounds similar to the Letts/Cravens effect. Can you post the abstract? I think the paper is

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread pagnucco
Eric, It's good to hear Ron Maimon is trying to develop this theory. But, the math is truly confusing, bewildering and intimidating - even to formulate the problem, let alone solve it. When composite particles are involved, calculating tunneling probability is almost intractable - even in free

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Edmund Storms
The problem Eric is that once the math is solved, the expected nuclear reaction is hot fusion, not cold fusion. Consequently, this effort is a waste of time. This is something the hot fusion field needs to understand to explain the effect of bombarding materials with energetic deuterons.

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread pagnucco
Ed, I assume you are referring to Maimon's theory, which I am not familiar with. When you say the expected reaction is hot fusion, are you only referring to highly energetic collisions? Do you think the theory X.Z.Li, et al, involving resonant tunneling (at low kinetic energy), allegedly

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Edmund Storms
Lou, Any theory that proposes to use tunneling based on electrons being concentrated must at the same time show how the resulting energy is dissipated. Such energy is dissipated normally by the fusion product breaking into two parts, which go off with high energy in directions required

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Axil Axil
Experiments by Piantelli and information about early Rossi systems indicate that a cold LENR system will produce high energy radiation, but a hot system will not. How can we understand the physical meaning of these experimental results? It has been shown that coherent EMF in the form of

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Edmund Storms
On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Axil Axil wrote: Experiments by Piantelli and information about early Rossi systems indicate that a cold LENR system will produce high energy radiation, but a hot system will not. Alix, this statement does not describe the evidence. All we know is what

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Axil Axil
*Yes, but all of these processes you describe are done near absolute zero while using complex apparatus. This has no relationship to cold fusion.* http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/02/bose-einstein-condensate-created-at-room-temperature/ From the article: Bose-Einstein condensate created at

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Axil Axil
*This description has no justification in theory or in observation. Coherent motion of atoms does no occur spontaneously in a lattice.* Here is where the size of the micro-particle becomes important. A 5 micron particle will resonate coherently at a temperature of about 400C, Nano particles

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Axil Axil
*If the coherent motion of the lattice is not robust enough, the radiation produced by the nuclear reactions will be unmodified by the cold lattice and escape as gamma rays.* *I have no idea what you are describing by the above comment.* In my post titled “Right Sizing Nickel Particles” I

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Eric Walker
Hi Ed, On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Any theory that proposes to use tunneling based on electrons being concentrated must at the same time show how the resulting energy is dissipated. This appears to be different from what Ron Maimon is proposing.

RE: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-08 Thread Jones Beene
This is coincidental to the BEC paper mentioned by Axil yesterday. From: Peter Gluck Can this: Nanoscopic Microcavities Offer Newfound Control in Light Filtering: Unique Nanostructure Produces Novel 'Plasmonic

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-08 Thread pagnucco
Peter, You may also be interested in the following paper on nanochannels - CHANNELING, SUPERFOCUSING, AND NUCLEAR REACTIONS - Yu N. Demkov http://144.206.159.178/FT/8304/558634/11919154.pdf While it discusses the extreme focusing of ~1 MeV proton wave-functions, perhaps particles/ions in

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-08 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:08 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: While it discusses the extreme focusing of ~1 MeV proton wave-functions, perhaps particles/ions in micro-/nano-channels in zeolites, nano-crevices, nanostructures, ..., experience more wave-function focusing than expected -