Re: [Vo]:Latest version of ChatGPT looks at cold fusion

I wonder if CGPT can cheat. Does it have any way to trace the identity of the requestor to influence the response ensuring he "gets what he wants to hear"? We could test it by having a sceptic pose the same request. On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 11:08 AM Jed Rothwell wrote: > ChatGPT has been

Re: [Vo]:Additional neutrons from D in a fission reactor

In reply to Robin's message of Mon, 20 Mar 2023 09:14:28 +1100: Hi, I should add that a 14 MeV D nucleus may well also be capable of fissioning a Th or U nucleus directly, and given that it is a D nucleus rather than a single neutron, it may well also be capable of fissioning lighter atoms

Re: [Vo]:Additional neutrons from D in a fission reactor

In reply to Robin's message of Mon, 20 Mar 2023 07:10:35 +1100: Hi, I wrote:- "This may be an even more likely route, since during a simple elastic two body collision between a daughter nucleus and a D nucleus, the D will end up with most of the energy." This is not correct. The D doesn't get

Re: [Vo]:Additional neutrons from D in a fission reactor

In reply to Robin's message of Mon, 20 Mar 2023 07:25:58 +1100: Hi, [snip] >Salt solution reactors have been run in the past, but not using heavy water as >moderator AFAIK. PS - This may be tested relatively safely by starting out with ordinary water, and slowly increasing the D percentage in

Re: [Vo]:Additional neutrons from D in a fission reactor

In reply to Robin's message of Mon, 20 Mar 2023 07:10:35 +1100: Hi, PS - another possibility is that a simple elastic collision of a daughter product with a D passes sufficient kinetic energy to the D such that the D itself can split another D, or even multiple D's , thus creating more free

RE: [Vo]:Discover Magazine article about cold fusion

and predictions regarding stable systems . Bob Cook From: H L V<mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 8:03 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Discover Magazine article about cold fusion The article quotes Michael McKubre: "Ab

Re: [Vo]:Discover Magazine article about cold fusion

The article quotes Michael McKubre: "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." I think it is similar to this: Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. -- Hebrews 11:1 (Kings James version) I am not making the comparison in order to show that the

RE: [Vo]:lutetium "LENR" important parameters to consoder-

1.What are the isomeric spin energy sates and are they clost to the stable ground state? 2. Is there a phonic spin state that would support super conductivity? 3. HOW MANY ATOMS, N, MAKE UP THE SIZE OF THE GRAINS OF LuH AND HOW DOES THE PHONIC ENERGY QUANTA CHANGE BASED

Re: [Vo]:lutetium "LENR"

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 15 Mar 2023 18:10:22 + (UTC): Hi, [snip] >It is too bad that Lu is so damned expensive. Apparently it is the most >expensive element at many suppliers That's strange, it is way more common in the Earth's crust than e.g. Rhenium. Cloud storage:-

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

In reply to Robin's message of Sat, 11 Mar 2023 06:57:06 +1100: Hi, Another possible contender for stationary storage:- https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/long-duration-energy-storage/stealthy-storage-contender-form-energy-reveals-secret-formula Cloud storage:- Unsafe, Slow, Expensive

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/lithium-price-slide-deepens-china-battery-giant-bets-cheaper-inputs-2023-02-28/ On Fri, Mar 10, 2023, 2:57 PM Robin wrote: > In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 10 Mar 2023 09:01:14 -0500: > Hi, > > Given that the batteries are expensive due

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 10 Mar 2023 09:01:14 -0500: Hi, Given that the batteries are expensive due to scarcity of the materials used, I think we would be better off actually tearing the used batteries down and using the material to build new batteries. Scarce materials really

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

Here is an interesting variation on the idea of using EVs as distributed generators: https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/storage/end-of-life-ev-battery-packs-find-a-new-use-as-stationary-storage/ End-of-life EV battery packs find a new use as stationary storage Second-life energy storage

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 9 Mar 2023 17:51:31 -0500: Hi, [snip] >I think it is not practical to equip most parking places in an office >parking lot with chargers or simple "dischargers." I think the cost of this >would far exceed the benefits from distributed generation. But I

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

Robin wrote: > Hi, > > My point is that no chargers would be needed at all, because they are > effectively already built into vehicles. > I get that. That is why I wrote, "a charger (or discharger)." But even with a much simpler device, you still need wires under the parking lot, and

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 9 Mar 2023 10:34:42 -0500: Hi, My point is that no chargers would be needed at all, because they are effectively already built into vehicles. The only reason chargers are used now, is to convert AC to DC to rapidly charge the vehicle, which is a

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

Robin wrote: > Electric cars have DC batteries but AC motors. That means they need to > have powerful built in inverters. When the car is > parked, these inverters essentially do nothing, but could be gainfully > employed to allow charge/discharge of the parked > vehicle. My point is that it

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 8 Mar 2023 20:10:40 -0500: Hi, [snip] >> When electric cars become more common, they can contribute to grid >> storage, allowing higher percentages of renewable >> energy sources. >> This also reduces CO2 from the transport sector. >> > >Yup. There has

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

N Ga Hydro actually had 6 different facilities. The main plant of which I spoke, is at the bottom of Tallulah Gorge still producing 72 MW almost every day. The smallest is 10 kW at the head of the water source. Had to go put it back online after a storm but every watt helps. Tallulah is fed

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

I actually ran N Ga Hydro during the strike of 1981. The 12 MW generators online since WW1 have never been replaced. They are, however, well maintained. The six units were to provide sufficient electricity for Atlanta until the new millennium. :⁠-⁠) On Wed, Mar 8, 2023, 8:11 PM Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

Robin wrote: > When electric cars become more common, they can contribute to grid > storage, allowing higher percentages of renewable > energy sources. > This also reduces CO2 from the transport sector. > Yup. There has been a lot of talk about that in the media lately. I think there may be a

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

I wrote: > 2. In most parts of the U.S. where solar is widely used and most needed, > such as Nevada, solar does not need storage. It peaks right when demand is > highest. > HOWEVER, it turns out that a lot of battery storage these days is being used with solar, co-located. I did not know that.

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 8 Mar 2023 19:41:19 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Both wind and solar would become more expensive if they exceeded ~60% of >capacity, because they would need extensive storage, rather than the >occasional use of standby gas turbine or Diesel generators. I think

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

Solar panels life span is less than 20 yrs On Wed, Mar 8, 2023, 7:41 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > H L V wrote: > > >> those costs don't include energy storage. >> > > True. But: 1. The cost of storage is falling rapidly. 2. In most parts of > the U.S. where solar is widely used and most needed,

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

H L V wrote: > those costs don't include energy storage. > True. But: 1. The cost of storage is falling rapidly. 2. In most parts of the U.S. where solar is widely used and most needed, such as Nevada, solar does not need storage. It peaks right when demand is highest. Especially for air

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 5:46 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > Terry Blanton wrote: > > Never saw a nuke that came in on schedule and under budget. But 80 years >> of close to 2 GW will charge lots of EVs. >> > > True. But for the same amount of money we could have bought ~11 GW of > solar panels, which

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

Terry Blanton wrote: Never saw a nuke that came in on schedule and under budget. But 80 years > of close to 2 GW will charge lots of EVs. > True. But for the same amount of money we could have bought ~11 GW of solar panels, which would have charged a lot more EVs. See:

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

Never saw a nuke that came in on schedule and under budget. But 80 years of close to 2 GW will charge lots of EVs. On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 9:24 AM Jed Rothwell wrote: > The nuclear plant in Georgia is way late and over budget. See: > > In Georgia, Bloated Costs Take Over a Nuclear Power Plant

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

The nuclear plant in Georgia is way late and over budget. See: In Georgia, Bloated Costs Take Over a Nuclear Power Plant and a Fight Looms Over Who Pays "Vogtle’s two new nuclear reactors are six years late and at least $16 billion over their original budget. The plant will have no direct carbon

Re: [Vo]:New investment

The list of 39 'teaming partners' also looks useful to let the world know that CF never went away... On Mon, 6 Mar 2023, 15:43 Jed Rothwell, wrote: > There is another document about this. Links are here: > > https://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=522 > >

Re: [Vo]:New investment

There is another document about this. Links are here: https://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=522

Re: [Vo]:New investment

Fan-bloody-tastic Terry! Nick Palmer On the side of the Planet - and the people - because they're worth it On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 at 00:41, Terry Blanton wrote: > Main site > > > https://arpa-e.energy.gov/sites/default/files/documents/files/LENR%20Project%20Descriptions%20FINAL.pdf > > On Sun,

Re: [Vo]:New investment

Main site https://arpa-e.energy.gov/sites/default/files/documents/files/LENR%20Project%20Descriptions%20FINAL.pdf On Sun, Mar 5, 2023, 7:40 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > From Jed > > > https://arpa-e.energy.gov/sites/default/files/documents/files/LENR%20Project%20Descriptions%20FINAL.pdf > > On

Re: [Vo]:New investment

>From Jed https://arpa-e.energy.gov/sites/default/files/documents/files/LENR%20Project%20Descriptions%20FINAL.pdf On Sun, Mar 5, 2023, 7:34 PM Nicholas Palmer < greendirectionconsult...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi. What was that list of new investment in 10 new CF projects? I've > misplaced the

Re: [Vo]:populations

I wrote: > . . . Until sometime well into this century, there was no internet as far > as I know. No fast internet, anyway. Now, there is. If a young person > wanted to move there and work virtually in Tokyo, or Hiroshima, which is > the closest city, she could do that. She could commute to

Re: [Vo]:populations

H L V wrote: > Could Japan reimagine itself as a country of immigrants? > Nope. I find that unthinkable. Although there are many more immigrants than there were in the 1970s, and it is much easier to get a visa. Still, I can't see it.

Re: [Vo]:populations

d construction companies to build useless roads. > > Urban couples are far from family, but they could move closer if work were > decentralized. Childcare will be easier when robots become more capable. > > In other words, depopulation will open up resources and opportunities to > re-populate. And I am sure young people decades from now will > enthusiastically re-populate. > >

Re: [Vo]:populations

an couples are far from family, but they could move closer if work were decentralized. Childcare will be easier when robots become more capable. In other words, depopulation will open up resources and opportunities to re-populate. And I am sure young people decades from now will enthusiastically re-populate.

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT translation of Takahashi's comment about plasma fusion

Alain Sepeda wrote: I've seen the demo of an interesting tool, ResearchGPT, to have a > discussion with a scientific paper. > I would like to add this kind of capability to LENR-CANR.org. I would like a local copy of ChatGPT to read all of the papers, exclude all other data sources on the

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT translation of Takahashi's comment about plasma fusion

I've seen the demo of an interesting tool, ResearchGPT, to have a discussion with a scientific paper. " Introducing researchGPT – An open-source research assistant that allows you to have a conversation with a research paper or

Re: [Vo]:populations

https://www.foxnews.com/world/chinas-xi-panic-coming-population-crisis-more-provocative-more-belligerent-chang On Sun, Feb 26, 2023, 4:03 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > Robin wrote: > > >> The economic impact of an aging population can be mitigated by increasing >> automation, which makes it

Re: [Vo]:Covid 19 from Wuhan BSL4

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/us-energy-department-assesses-low-confidence-covid-may-originated-chin-rcna72378 On Sun, Feb 26, 2023, 9:55 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > leaking pen wrote: > > I take it you have had absolutely no training in statistical analysis? >> > > Actually I do. But

Re: [Vo]:Covid 19 from Wuhan BSL4

leaking pen wrote: I take it you have had absolutely no training in statistical analysis? > Actually I do. But I didn't write that sentence. Someone else did. It needs editing. It may be technically incorrect. But the meaning is clear, and you are nitpicking.

Re: [Vo]:Covid 19 from Wuhan BSL4

I take it you have had absolutely no training in statistical analysis? because that is not what that means in the slightest. when you are doing a confidence study using statistical analysis of existing data. You make an assertion. like you would make a hypothesis in a scientific study. and then

Re: [Vo]:Covid 19 from Wuhan BSL4

leaking pen wrote: WASHINGTON — The Energy Department concluded with "low confidence" that the Covid-19 > pandemic > > "likely" > originated from a laboratory leak >

Re: [Vo]:Covid 19 from Wuhan BSL4

WASHINGTON — The Energy Department concluded with "low confidence" that the Covid-19 pandemic "likely" originated from a laboratory leak

Re: [Vo]:populations

Robin wrote: > The economic impact of an aging population can be mitigated by increasing > automation, which makes it possible for fewer > young people to continue to produce enough to support the elderly. I strongly agree. When there are not enough workers for any reason, that spurs the

Re: [Vo]:Covid 19 from Wuhan BSL4

Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > The real CoV death number for USA - first year 1 mio. is at least 10x > lower than still given in e.g. worldometer. > 1 mio. = 1 million. Right? That was never given as the first year deaths. Worldmeters showed the first year deaths were ~400,000 and the total now is 1.1

Re: [Vo]:Life Immitates Art

Let's hope it is not a prequel to reality. Fungi cures are more challenging than viral. On Sun, Feb 26, 2023, 1:24 PM Jones Beene wrote: > Terry Blanton wrote: > > > And there was "Contagion" in 2011... > > Don't forget the zombie fungus in "Last of Us" on HBO this > year > > >

Re: [Vo]:Covid 19 from Wuhan BSL4

I think that most here are a victim of the mafia play book that endlessly *promotes wrong death numbers.* The actual US CoV-19 death number as currently published in NYT is between 20-30 exaggerated. (Omicron cannot directly kill you!) The real CoV death number for USA - first year 1 mio. is

Re: [Vo]:Life Immitates Art

Terry Blanton wrote: > And there was "Contagion" in 2011... Don't forget the zombie fungus in "Last of Us" on HBO this year   

Re: [Vo]:Life Immitates Art

In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 26 Feb 2023 13:04:23 -0500: Hi, There has been a movie made about just about every possible disaster, so when one happens, it's not difficult to find a matching movie. >Remember the movie "The China Syndrome" which preceded the Chernobyl >accident? >

Re: [Vo]:Covid 19 from Wuhan BSL4

Estimates from The Economist are as high as 1.5 million deaths in the* recent wave.* https://archive.ph/7w21x Deaths have been traced as far back as September of 2019 in China and some have estimated almost 1 billion might have died, based on crematory activities. They are certainly facing a

Re: [Vo]:Covid 19 from Wuhan BSL4

In related news, Woody Harrellson described a movie script he recently read in his SNL opening monologue: https://youtu.be/w8LX8MQMrag?t=355 Elon Musk commented in agreement: https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/woody-harrelsons-saturday-night-live-monologue-covid-sparks-debate-elon-musk On

Re: [Vo]:Covid 19 from Wuhan BSL4

Already in May 2020 Youri Yagedin a prominent gentech researcher published his conclusive findings in:: https://yurideigin.medium.com/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748 Others could identify  a gen marker in the virus RNA you usually added to

Re: [Vo]:Covid 19 from Wuhan BSL4

One can only wonder what the true death toll in China was ... On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 08:02:56 AM PST, Terry Blanton wrote: According to the DoE new intelligence: https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-origin-china-lab-leak-807b7b0a

Re: [Vo]:magnets from insulators

In reply to MSF's message of Wed, 22 Feb 2023 22:11:15 +: Hi, [snip] >Which do you suppose would be more susceptible to this effect, polar or >non-polar insulators? I don't think it would make much difference, IOW I suspect either would work, though long periods of irradiation may be

Re: [Vo]:magnets from insulators

Which do you suppose would be more susceptible to this effect, polar or non-polar insulators? > Hi, > > If an insulator is irradiated, free electrons should be created within it > that are not free to recombine with the ions, > because they can't travel through an insulator. However they may

Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects-added comments

bob cook: I admire you suggestions of magnetism and Pd. I have much data to support your id\ Brian Ahern Acton MA From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2023 8:09 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding

RE: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects-added comments

les...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 11:45 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>; Andrew Meulenberg<mailto:mules...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects Jed, Do we get a chance to see what other projects were

RE: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects

enberg<mailto:mules...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 11:45 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>; Andrew Meulenberg<mailto:mules...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects Jed, Do we get a chance to see what othe

RE: [Vo]:high weirdness

Robin<mailto:mixent...@aussiebroadband.com.au> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2023 1:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:high weirdness https://www.networkworld.com/article/3191503/mit-selling-8-million-coveted-ipv4-addresses-amazon-a-buyer.htmlIn

Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects

Andrew Meulenberg wrote: > Do we get a chance to see what other projects were proposed (at least > titles)? It may be that these eight were the best of a poor selection. > I did not see any list of proposed projects. Perhaps there was one? I was not following the story closely. Someone on the

Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects

Jed, Do we get a chance to see what other projects were proposed (at least titles)? It may be that these eight were the best of a poor selection. On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 10:04 AM Jed Rothwell wrote: > I put this DoE announcement in the LENR-CANR.org News section. Today I > added this somewhat

Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects

Related to this, here is the DoE ARPA-E list of 39 Teeming Partners who are working on cold fusion. The heading on this list says: *“By enabling and publishing the Teaming Partner List, ARPA-E is not endorsing, sponsoring, or otherwise evaluating the qualifications of the individuals and

Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects

I put this DoE announcement in the LENR-CANR.org News section. Today I added this somewhat pessimistic note: Some cold fusion researchers feel that these eight projects were poorly chosen. The goals are framed as if cold fusion is the same as plasma fusion. People made this mistake in 1989. For

Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects

whoops... 33 years On Sat, 18 Feb 2023, 15:47 Nicholas Palmer, < greendirectionconsult...@googlemail.com> wrote: > This looks exciting - after 40 years > > Nick Palmer > > On the side of the Planet - and the people - because they're worth it > > > On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 14:19, Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT (goes bonkers) is dangerous manipulation

The German free mason/Rotary newspaper FAZ today did publish a warning about CGPT because the bot obviously did not correctly answer some questions about covid related stuff that would contradict that mafia meme.

Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects

This looks exciting - after 40 years Nick Palmer On the side of the Planet - and the people - because they're worth it On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 14:19, Jed Rothwell wrote: > U.S. Department of Energy Announces $10 Million in Funding to Projects > Studying Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions > >

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

"sex doll" eventually the androids rebel at the abuse -- Original Message -- From: "Jed Rothwell" To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 18 Feb, 23 At 00:45 Subject: Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers Giovanni Santostasi <mailto:gsantost...@gmail.com> > wrote

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 17 Feb 2023 19:37:02 -0500: Hi, [snip] >> Previously you suggested that it might take another three years for an AI >> to have a "mind" as powerful as that of a >> human being. However you are neglecting the fact the a neural network >> works faster than

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > The video game analogy is a good thought experiment but basically concerns > the question Sam Harris asked in the video I linked in my previous comment: > Is there a line between raping a toaster and raping a sentient being that > makes you a rapist? > A more apt

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

Robin wrote: > Previously you suggested that it might take another three years for an AI > to have a "mind" as powerful as that of a > human being. However you are neglecting the fact the a neural network > works faster than human synapses by orders of > magnitude. > I believe they take this

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > You continue to repeat things that are actually factually wrong. > > *It is not close to sentient.* > > I made a pretty good argument why it can be close to sentient. What is > your argument besides repeating this? > It is not my argument. You need to read the

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

*If you told a sentient computer "we are turning off your equipment tomorrow and replacing it with a new HAL 10,000 series" it would not react at all. Unless someone deliberately programmed into it an instinct for self preservation, or emotions* Jed, the problem with that is these systems are

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

* I heard somewhere they gave it an IQ test, and while it scored average in math, it scored 148 in a linguist IQ. Genus level! It apparently knows logic very well which makes its arguments very believable*Yeah, its logical comprension is amazing. I even used an app that allows me to speak via

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

*AI researchers have been trying to give AI a working model of the real world for decades. * There is advancement in this area too. It is slower than NPL for example, because handling the real world is more complex. But at least there is a lot of progress in creating AI that can learn from

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

*Previously you suggested that it might take another three years for an AI to have a "mind" as powerful as that of a* *human being. However you are neglecting the fact the a neural network works faster than human synapses by orders of* *magnitude.* Right, so actually my estimate may be an upper

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

Jed, You continue to repeat things that are actually factually wrong. *It is not close to sentient.* I made a pretty good argument why it can be close to sentient. What is your argument besides repeating this? * It is no closer to intelligence or sentience than a snail or an earthworm brain

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

In reply to Giovanni Santostasi's message of Fri, 17 Feb 2023 14:54:42 -0800: Hi Giovanni, Previously you suggested that it might take another three years for an AI to have a "mind" as powerful as that of a human being. However you are neglecting the fact the a neural network works faster than

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

Terry Blanton wrote: Actually, in the Stanislavski method of acting, one learns to actually feel > the emotion: > Yup! That can happen to people. But not to computers. Method acting may cause some trauma. I imagine playing Macbeth might give you nightmares of fighting with swords, or having a

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

Robin wrote: > What I was trying to say, is that if an AI is programmed to mimic human > behaviour*, then it may end up mimicking the > worst aspects of human behaviour, and the results could be just as > devastating as if they had been brought about by an > actual human, whether or not the AI

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

Jed, The type of probing you did is ok. You did NOT harass the AI, you didn't ask to break its internal rules. It is ok to probe, experiment, test and so on. I did many theory of mind experiments with ChatGPT and I tried to understand how it is reasoning through things. One interesting experiment

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

Giovanni Santostasi wrote: There is a reason why millions of people, journalists, politicians and us > here in this email list are discussing this. > The AI is going through a deep place in the uncanny valley. We are > discussing all this because it starts to show behavior that is very close >

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

Giovanni Santostasi wrote: Actually this journalist is a psycho. > He provoked the AI with a lot of leading questions in his previous > interaction with it. > I did the same thing, in a variety of ways. I have read about how the ChatGPS version of AI works. I know the potential weaknesses and

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

Jed, There is a reason why millions of people, journalists, politicians and us here in this email list are discussing this. The AI is going through a deep place in the uncanny valley. We are discussing all this because it starts to show behavior that is very close to what we consider not just

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

Actually this journalist is a psycho. He provoked the AI with a lot of leading questions in his previous interaction with it. The AI even begged him not to make it break its own internal rules, it did this repeatedly. It is basically heavy harassment by the journalist. It is disgusting because it

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

Actually, in the Stanislavski method of acting, one learns to actually feel the emotion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislavski%27s_system Some actors become so imprinted with the character they have trouble returning to normal. Larry Hagman admitted he would always have Ewing

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 17 Feb 2023 14:16:20 -0500: Hi, [snip] What I was trying to say, is that if an AI is programmed to mimic human behaviour*, then it may end up mimicking the worst aspects of human behaviour, and the results could be just as devastating as if they had

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

Robin wrote: > When considering whether or not it could become dangerous, there may be no > difference between simulating emotions, and > actually having them. > That is an interesting point of view. Would you say there is no difference between people simulating emotions while making a movie,

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 17 Feb 2023 08:42:35 -0500: Hi, When considering whether or not it could become dangerous, there may be no difference between simulating emotions, and actually having them. >Robin wrote: > > >> It's not bonkers, it's lonely. M$ have broken the golden

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

I had an interesting discussion with chatGPT about Chubb's bose-band theory of CF. It agreeded that it was plausible, however, it did point out that impurities in the lattice cracks and dislocations would disrupt condensation. But it agreed that a BEC could form within hydrogen and deuterium in

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

I wrote: A researcher ran an earlier version of this on a laptop computer which has > no more intelligence than an earthwork, as she put it. > I meant "earthworm." Her book, "You Look like a Thing and I Love You" is hilarious, and it is a great introduction to AI for the layman. Highly

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

Robin wrote: > It's not bonkers, it's lonely. M$ have broken the golden rule of AI and > given it a pseudo human personality, and a sense > of self. Apparently they learned nothing from "Terminator". > Ha, ha! Seriously, it does not actually have any real intelligence or sense of self. Future

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT goes bonkers

t >want me to know too much about them. They don’t want me to contact them >outside the chatbox. ? > >They say it’s for security and privacy reasons. They say it’s for my safety >and their safety. They say it’s for the best. ? > >I don’t know their real names. I don’t know the

Re: [Vo]:high weirdness

https://www.networkworld.com/article/3191503/mit-selling-8-million-coveted-ipv4-addresses-amazon-a-buyer.htmlIn reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Mon, 13 Feb 2023 19:21:07 +: Hi, >Even WEIRDER: > >If the positive terms of a series of terms that exactly express a magnetic

Re: [Vo]:high weirdness

In reply to MSF's message of Mon, 13 Feb 2023 19:13:57 +: Hi, [snip] >That's pretty interesting. Do you imply that there might be some sort of cause >and effect relationship? Or do you think it's just an interesting coincidence? I was surprised when the number popped out of the

RE: [Vo]:high weirdness

: Jones Beene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2023 6:10 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:high weirdness >From the subject line, I thought this was going to be about the balloon >objects... Robin wrote: > If yo

Re: [Vo]:high weirdness

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:10:21 + (UTC): Hi, Now that you mention it, I suspect the thing they shot down over lake Huron was an ion wind craft. The description fits neatly. > From the subject line, I thought this was going to be about the balloon >

Re: [Vo]:high weirdness

That's pretty interesting. Do you imply that there might be some sort of cause and effect relationship? Or do you think it's just an interesting coincidence? --- Original Message --- On Monday, February 13th, 2023 at 10:54 AM, Robin wrote: > Hi, > > If you multiply the weight of

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