Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-10 Thread John Berry
Personally I am highly skeptical that they could predict with enough accuracy where one would fall in the event it is actually small enough to evacuate an area rather than a whole country. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:54 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 9

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-09 Thread Horace Heffner
On Mar 8, 2009, at 5:35 PM, Kyle Mcallister wrote: Given that I've now made a couple nice power supplies, maybe I should do some tests of the Morton effect. I don't have a sphere terminal. Maybe a stainless steel soup pot will work? :) --Kyle A couple hemispherical metal salad bowls might

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-09 Thread Horace Heffner
On Mar 8, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Kyle Mcallister wrote: If during this financial mess we can monitor volcanoes (which we can do NOTHING about), we can watch the skies a little better. Volcano monitoring here in Alaska is pretty important. Volcanic eruptions affect air traffic routing and

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kyle Mcallister wrote: If during this financial mess we can monitor volcanoes (which we can do NOTHING about) . . . As I wrote repeatedly, we can LOTS about volcanoes. We can't stop them, of course, but we can prevent them from killing people or damaging equipment unnecessarily. We can

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-09 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: As I wrote repeatedly, we can LOTS about volcanoes. We can't stop them, of course, but we can prevent them from killing people or damaging equipment unnecessarily. We can mitigate the danger and financial loss. Horace Heffner also

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-09 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: A couple hemispherical metal salad bowls might work and are not too pricey at Wal-Mart. Good idea. I will get a couple of them, split some vinyl tubing down the side, and wrap the lip to prevent corona. Noticed Bill Beatty did some

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Kyle Mcallister's message of Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:22:23 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] This is not the scale of skywatch program we need. If people can scream about CO2 emissions, they damn sure ought to get a bit scared when a rock is discovered only 1.5 million miles away, heading basically

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-09 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Kyle Mcallister kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Same with volcanoes as it is with asteroids: we can save lives if we know ahead of time. If the thing blows (or enters atmosphere) without

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: Evacuate a city, which is approximately the amount of damage a 1 MT blast would do. One week ahead of time, could they determine with enough accuracy where the object will strike? Or would they have to say: 'evacuate everyplace from X west to Y'? I do not know

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:47:53 -0400: Hi, [snip] Robin van Spaandonk wrote: Evacuate a city, which is approximately the amount of damage a 1 MT blast would do. One week ahead of time, could they determine with enough accuracy where the object will strike? Or

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-08 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: Asteroid 2009 DD45 had a 48,000 mile close call March 2, 2009. What has not explicitly been said AFAIK is whether or not that was within a window that can establish a resonant return, i.e. a direct hit on a return fly by. Perhaps it

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Kyle Mcallister's message of Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:13:34 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] With so much utter trash in The Mighty Hambone stimulus bill, why is there not some cash for asteroid detection and defense? We know this is a threat, we have clear proof of it. Much more so than 'other'

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-08 Thread Kyle Mcallister
[snip] I thought it *was* detected by someone paid to do exactly that? Not paid very much it seems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siding_Spring_Survey And someone else tracked it after the discovery by way of funding provided by The Planetary Society. This is not the scale of skywatch

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-08 Thread John Berry
The only way we can realistically do anything is if we have technologies or friends that we don't generally admit to, I hold out no hope for a mission as in the movie Armageddon or lasers or... Though with a bit of foresight get Podkletnov of the job and he may be able to redirect it. On Mon,

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-08 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote: The only way we can realistically do anything is if we have technologies or friends that we don't generally admit to, I hold out no hope for a mission as in the movie Armageddon or lasers or... We can do it with nuclear weapons, either a direct

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-08 Thread John Berry
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Kyle Mcallister kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.comwrote: --- John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote: The only way we can realistically do anything is if we have technologies or friends that we don't generally admit to, I hold out no hope for a mission as in the

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-08 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: The physics of it are straight forward and manageable with our level of technology however the level of readiness would be fatal. It would require better

[Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-07 Thread Horace Heffner
Asteroid 2009 DD45 had a 48,000 mile close call March 2, 2009. What has not explicitly been said AFAIK is whether or not that was within a window that can establish a resonant return, i.e. a direct hit on a return fly by. Perhaps it is too soon to know due to the near earth gravitational