On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:46 AM, David Roberson wrote:
>
> I want to make one observation for you and others to consider. If the
> output power delivered during the test were in the range of 500 kW, then
> all of the vapor exiting toward
> the heat exchanger would be high quality.
>
Agreed.
LENR, if I can reproduce it?
On Nov 20, 2011, at 0:52, David Roberson wrote:
I made a good faith effort to explain the system to one of them to no avail.
That particular one refused to discuss the operation of Rossi's 1 MW system in
details point by point.
It is apparent th
My understanding is the coolant did, in Feb, go around the single Door
Knob style reactor core but it no longer does. IE the heat radiation
fins and the 3 cores embedded in lead. I have no real issues using a
heat exchanger as long as I get a real time digital readout of the water
flow rate int
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
wrote:
> I'm happy to replicate the 6 Oct 2011 test setup. In fact I'll insist on
> it as then I know what to expect. I'll bring temp, water flow and power
> input monitoring equipment, plus the digital cro and the data logger. I'm
> not initially
I'm happy to replicate the 6 Oct 2011 test setup. In fact I'll insist on
it as then I know what to expect. I'll bring temp, water flow and power
input monitoring equipment, plus the digital cro and the data logger.
I'm not initially interested in self sustain mode but will insist on at
least 24
Am 20.11.2011 02:28, schrieb Daniel Rocha:
Suppose I can do it, just like Rossi claims. I dont want to have to
leave home nor have to heat tons of water. What should I do?
The problem is to make the energy visible.
Heat a known amount of water in an open vaporizer.
Let the steam go out of the
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
> Well I do hope he will sell a 100 kW plant to me.
>
I do too. If you get a test schedule and you want my help, I'll go with
you if the test terms are reasonable and you can provide your own equipment
entirely except for the E-cat and t
Several others are working on independent ecat tests, and would be willing
to collaborate, ecatbuilder.com and myself for starters. Other people
floating around the scene.
-DrowningTrout
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
> I'm currently working on a design but have not ye
Well I do hope he will sell a 100 kW plant to me.
AG
On 11/20/2011 5:39 PM, Charles Hope wrote:
Rossi said he'd sell to anybody except the military.
On Nov 19, 2011, at 23:17, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
On 11/20/2011 2:30 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
What Rossi could do would be twofold. First, all
On Nov 20, 2011, at 0:52, David Roberson wrote:
>
> I made a good faith effort to explain the system to one of them to no avail.
> That particular one refused to discuss the operation of Rossi's 1 MW system
> in details point by point.
> It is apparent that he realized that his argument wa
Rossi said he'd sell to anybody except the military.
On Nov 19, 2011, at 23:17, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
> On 11/20/2011 2:30 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
>> What Rossi could do would be twofold. First, ally himself with some deep
>> pockets.
>
> Deep pockets? How much deeper can you get but the mili
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:52 PM, David Roberson wrote:
>
> I made a good faith effort to explain the system to one of them to no
> avail. That particular one refused to discuss the operation of Rossi's 1
> MW system in details point by point.
> It is apparent that he realized that his argument
d ran
for cover. Maybe he was afraid that he would have to accept the fact that
Rossi's test was valid
once his misconceptions were revealed.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Aussie Guy E-Cat
To: vortex-l
Sent: Sun, Nov 20, 2011 12:21 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:How should I demonstrate
Proof? Rossi and his agents are taking orders. No money paid until
delivery and your engineers have certified it meets the agreed claims.
The only scam is in your straw man statements. You claim to have money
or access to money. All you need do is to place an order (Rossi has said
he will go do
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
wrote:
> All you have are your straw man argument. Where is your proof that the
> colonel was not who Rossi said he was and that Rossi lied when he recently
> said the original purchaser was military and has now purchased a further 13
> x 1MW plant
I'm currently working on a design but have not yet started building. I'm
going small as I do respect what could happen if I get a run away and
can't shut it down quickly. I fully understand what others have said
about Rossi when they saw the 18 hour test cell hit 123 kWs. I would not
want to be
All you have are your straw man argument. Where is your proof that the
colonel was not who Rossi said he was and that Rossi lied when he
recently said the original purchaser was military and has now purchased
a further 13 x 1MW plants. With Rossi we have photos of hardware,
videos, data, first
Are you interested in building an ecat? You could help me.
2011/11/20 Aussie Guy E-Cat
> Mary, I have a nice infinite COP device in my pocket to show you. I
> produces electricity from no known energy source. That is as long as you
> forget about the discovery of the photovoltaic effect in 1839.
Well, she didn't say self running, but a big COP. That's fine.
2011/11/20 Terry Blanton
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Daniel Rocha
> wrote:
> > OK, deal :)
>
> Don't trust Mary. I know her. She won't do a deal until it's self
> running.
>
> T
>
>
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
> Deal. Sorry but I can't help you build it. I'm all thumbs in a machine
> shop. Positively dangerous.
She's serious. All fingers have been milled to zero.
T
Mary, I have a nice infinite COP device in my pocket to show you. I
produces electricity from no known energy source. That is as long as you
forget about the discovery of the photovoltaic effect in 1839. Ok, I
agree that in 2011 the device will not meet your requirements. BUT in
1838 it would h
Alright, you get someone you trust to replicate. No worries.
2011/11/20 Mary Yugo
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
>
>> OK, deal :)
>>
>
> Deal. Sorry but I can't help you build it. I'm all thumbs in a machine
> shop. Positively dangerous.
>
>
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
> OK, deal :)
Don't trust Mary. I know her. She won't do a deal until it's self running.
T
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
> OK, deal :)
>
Deal. Sorry but I can't help you build it. I'm all thumbs in a machine
shop. Positively dangerous.
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
wrote:
> On 11/20/2011 2:30 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
>
>> What Rossi could do would be twofold. First, ally himself with some deep
>> pockets.
>>
>
> Deep pockets? How much deeper can you get but the military?
I agree. If the military bought it and
OK, deal :)
2011/11/20 Mary Yugo
>
> OK, so you say. If you come up with something, I would be more than
> delighted to help you test it so nobody with an IQ > 10 can deny it's
> real. And I can find you a Daddy Warbucks too if you need one. But
> please, first make something that makes a dec
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
> I am really serious, I am not bating you. I said I do not have the money
> to develop anything, so I will have to do it the way of open source. It is
> public doman from the start. I come up with the idea and then someone
> might help me so
I am really serious, I am not bating you. I said I do not have the money
to develop anything, so I will have to do it the way of open source. It is
public doman from the start. I come up with the idea and then someone
might help me someday build the thing. You will have to help me become rich
sin
On 11/20/2011 2:30 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
What Rossi could do would be twofold. First, ally himself with some
deep pockets.
Deep pockets? How much deeper can you get but the military? Who Rossi
now claims bought the first and the next 13 x 1 MW E-Cat plants. I doubt
the military would wish to
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
> I didn't say that...
>
> Anyway, I am happy now that MY will help me become rich, if I give her the
> instructions on how to make a device, even without patent protection. She
> is going to make and test the devices. I think she may take a fe
I didn't say that...
Anyway, I am happy now that MY will help me become rich, if I give her the
instructions on how to make a device, even without patent protection. She
is going to make and test the devices. I think she may take a few thousand
of her $100,000.00 prize for someone who can drive a
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Mary Yugo wrote:
>
>
>> I dont even have the money to build one! And I have no patent, there is
>>> nothing I can do about it. . . .
>>
>>
>
>> Sure. Show me it works and I'll make you a zillionaire and it won't be
>> difficult.
>
>
> It wo
If I were designing a public demonstration of LENR, I would make a:
"LENR-gizer Bunny" that keeps going, and going... (with an empty battery
compartment, of course)
Mary Yugo wrote:
> I dont even have the money to build one! And I have no patent, there is
>> nothing I can do about it. . . .
>
>
> Sure. Show me it works and I'll make you a zillionaire and it won't be
> difficult.
It would be very difficult. If you have no patent, anyone is free to take
t
Alright, although I am a little skeptic on how I could be a zillionaire
without any kind of property protection (Id like to know if it ever
happened).
2011/11/20 Mary Yugo
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
>
>> I dont even have the money to build one! And I have no paten
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
> I dont even have the money to build one! And I have no patent, there is
> nothing I can do about it. He would just rip me off. Would you work as my
> sales person, if I show to you that it works?
>
Sure. Show me it works and I'll make you a
I dont even have the money to build one! And I have no patent, there is
nothing I can do about it. He would just rip me off. Would you work as my
sales person, if I show to you that it works?
2011/11/19 Mary Yugo
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
>
>> Sell, how?
>>
>
> E
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
> Sell, how?
>
Easy. Just call Starbuck's CEO and tell him they you can show them how to
make all the coffee they want and heat all their stores for 1/100 or 1/1000
of their current energy costs. He'll either have you institutionalized as
a
Sell, how?
2011/11/19 Mary Yugo
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Daniel Rocha
>> wrote:
>> > Suppose I can do it, just like Rossi claims. I dont want to have to
>> leave
>> > home nor have to heat tons of water. What should I do?
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Daniel Rocha
> wrote:
> > Suppose I can do it, just like Rossi claims. I dont want to have to leave
> > home nor have to heat tons of water. What should I do?
>
> Lomax had a really great idea: sell a kit w
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
> Suppose I can do it, just like Rossi claims. I dont want to have to leave
> home nor have to heat tons of water. What should I do?
Lomax had a really great idea: sell a kit whereby anyone could verify
it at home. Better still, I like Dennis
Suppose I can do it, just like Rossi claims. I dont want to have to leave
home nor have to heat tons of water. What should I do?
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