Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-10 Thread thomas malloy
thomas malloy wrote: grok wrote: Your posts show that you think that everything has an economic basis, Grok. This is a result of the aforementioned cool aide which was served to you, during your education, by the Oligarchy, which you willingly drank. Most likely paid for (willingly) by

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
The final count of people looking for tritium output to find the Claytor paper is ~1014. Most appear to be from the U.S. and Canada. Someone may have circulated the URL directly, instead of the search term, because another ~200 were downloaded, which is higher than normal for this paper. -

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-09 Thread mixent
In reply to grok's message of Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:46:00 -0700: Hi, [snip] Implications, eh? Like the implications of how why this stuff is getting from wherever it comes from -- and down everybody's pie-hole, like fatted geese being force-fed with a funnel..? [snip] It's more subtle than that. A

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-09 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, mix...@bigpond.com mix...@bigpond.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Implications, eh? Like the implications of how why this stuff is getting from wherever it comes from -- and down everybody's pie-hole, like fatted

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Berry wrote: I consider most everyone on this earth to be severely deluded, what's your point? Seriously, that's impossible. Our species would not survive. That's a little like saying everyone is above average. It is possible that many people are deluded (or at least wrong) about

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread John Berry
I didn't say fatally deluded though. But I do believe that a huge amount of what most people believe is wrong. Death/Extinction is not the natural consequence of delusion either. Although I would state that the vast majority of people today hasten their deaths by 2 delusions. Firstly trusting

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:27:36 -0400: Hi, [snip] This would be similar to the fact that many people are obese because they they can get far more sugary food than was available to our ancestors. [snip] I think the primary reason for the obesity epidemic is trans

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, mix...@bigpond.com mix...@bigpond.com mounted the barricade and roared out: This would be similar to the fact that many people are obese because they they can get far more sugary food than was available to our ancestors.

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread mixent
In reply to grok's message of Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:10:31 -0700: Hi, [snip] This is the same logic as blaming guns for killing people. Look further up the logic chain. [snip] I gave the direct reason, and the implications are obvious to anyone with a brain. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, mix...@bigpond.com mix...@bigpond.com mounted the barricade and roared out: This is the same logic as blaming guns for killing people. Look further up the logic chain. I gave the direct reason, and the implications are

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread John Berry
grok, the reason is that either out of malice or disregard there are businesses (people) who are happy to hurt people, make them sick and kill them for a profit. I can't decide which is their main objective the money or the destruction but both occurs. Cancer is one example of something that is

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: grok, the reason is that either out of malice or disregard there are businesses (people) who are happy to hurt people, make them sick and kill them for a

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net mounted the barricade and roared out: Implications, eh? Like the implications of how why this stuff is getting from wherever it comes from -- and down everybody's pie-hole, like fatted

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:33:22 -0800 (PST): Hi, [snip] 1 million signs would contain a maximum of 2.58 mg of T, which would yield a *boosted* power of about 10 tonnes of TNT. Perhaps more to the point, the number of signs required to construct any self respecting

RE: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-07 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com 1 million signs would contain a maximum of 2.58 mg of T, which would yield a *boosted* power of about 10 tonnes of TNT. Robin, [JB:] Despite the name boosting -- the extra yield is of almost no importance to the real aim. The value of

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 7 Mar 2009 18:15:10 -0800: Hi Jones, [snip] The value of boosting is almost solely to be able to use reactor grade material One still needs to initiate the fusion reaction, which implies a critical mass of fissile material. [snip] Regards, Robin van

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-07 Thread John Berry
I consider most everyone on this earth to be severely deluded, what's your point? On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 3:19 PM, grok g...@resist.ca wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Grok

[Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
This morning at 6:58 someone did a search for tritium output with the msm search tool. The first thing found is: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ClaytorTNtritiumprob.pdf This person told someone else, who used the same search tool and search terms at 7:06. At 7:20 someone tried Google and got

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-06 Thread Jones Beene
jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 11:41:52 AM Subject: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today This morning at 6:58 someone did a search for tritium output with the msm search tool. The first thing found is: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: You heard it first on Vo: But first, can you tell us, Jed, if any of the hits are from overseas, the Mid-East, TCI ? Reply hazy; Ask again later. (To quote the Magic 8 Ball). What I mean is, I can tell more easily tomorrow when the program does a breakdown by country for

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
As of 18:00 the Claytor count stands at 823. 56 in the last hour. The reaction is decaying, you might say. I wish it would ramp up exponentially. I assume this has not happened because every group that has discovered LENR-CANR in this fashion (or a single paper in the collection) has had a

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-06 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net mounted the barricade and roared out: Ever since Iran reportedly accumulated enough fissile material for a Bombe (please use the Peter Seller's pronunciation here) there has been a gigantic

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-06 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net mounted the barricade and roared out: ... making Jean Paul Sarte into somewhat more of a modern day prophet than he already was ... Huis Clos. Hell is indeed other people. ;P - -- grok.

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-06 Thread Terry Blanton
That Iran would be building a hydrogen bombe is almost funny. Go back and look at how effective the Pakistan test was. Even Pak likely has no method of delivery of their 4 ton monstrosity. An effective fission bombe will require almost two orders of magnitude extra enrichment by Iran. Multiple

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-06 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message From: Terry Blanton That Iran would be building a hydrogen bombe is almost funny. Not precisely a hydrogen bombe awkshully ... Some Ruskie probably informed them, chief inspector, that in the unusual circumstance where the weapon was not intended to be a

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-06 Thread OrionWorks
Grok sez: As the smoke cleared, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net mounted the barricade and roared out: Ever since Iran reportedly accumulated enough fissile material for a Bombe (please use the Peter Seller's pronunciation here) there has been a gigantic theft of tritium - from all over

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:\ Sorry, no more details will be available on this topic Yes, we should remain neutral on this one. ;-) Terry

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-06 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Grok sez: As the smoke cleared, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net mounted the barricade and roared out: Ever since Iran reportedly accumulated