Lawrence de Bivort wrote:
My general
proposition is that when systems, like corporations, become 'too big' that
due to the internal dynamics of bigness they come to act overall at a
mediocre level of intelligence.
This does seem to be the case. This and other related problems are
described in
gist
What do you think?
Lawrence
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From: Robin van Spaandonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 5:21 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: "Tooo" obvious for Detroit?
In reply to Lawrence de Bivort's message of Sun, 9 Ma
In reply to Lawrence de Bivort's message of Sun, 9 Mar 2008 08:52:34 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>Partly it is a matter of Reverting to the Mean, and partly a matter of there
>being only so many genuinely brilliant leaders and with size their net
>impact is diluted by the inevitable bulk of mediocre people
re failures, until American management begins to study the dynamics I
allude to.
And, no, Ford and GM have not been clients of mine. Unfortunately.
Cheers,
Lawrence
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:39 PM
To: vortex
Subjec
In reply to R C Macaulay's message of Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:58:06 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
>Yep, Philip,
>
>
>We have unit 3 & 4 nuke plant starting construction soon at Bay City Texas..
>part of the South Texas project. They are having their share of the problems
>using a Jap design .. plus the environme
Yep, Philip,
We have unit 3 & 4 nuke plant starting construction soon at Bay City Texas..
part of the South Texas project. They are having their share of the problems
using a Jap design .. plus the environmental problems to overcome.
The problem with Nukes are...
They can operate some 40-50 ye
and his group, read "Disturbing the Universe" by Freeman
Dyson. This is what you could call "one-dimensional thinking."
P.
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To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2008 8:33:41 AM
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From: "thomas malloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: "Tooo" obvious for Detroit?
Terry Blanton wrote:
I can't allow the denigration of engineers in the automotive industry
continue. I had a friend
Terry Blanton wrote:
I can't allow the denigration of engineers in the automotive industry
continue. I had a friend who was an engineering manager in Detroit
I agree, IMHO, it's the MBA's and the lawyers.
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I can't allow the denigration of engineers in the automotive industry
continue. I had a friend who was an engineering manager in Detroit
and he said that the reason they built $hitty cars was management and
marketing. The engineers battled constantly for design and
manufacturing standards only to
--- Richard:
> Howdy Vorts. It was not my intent to create an
atmosphere of hostility among us by making the
remark...
Hey- no hostility. As usual on Vo, we are often
arguing past each other anyway - while trying to
squeeze in a relevant point or two ... which the other
party doesn't necessarily
MC: Jones is a very sophistcated and clever man, author of thought-provoking
posts. But he can missd the point in a very complex subject.
People in general, including Jones, do the best they can within the vision
that they have and organizations they work for.
-
...even through in fairne
--- Lawrence de Bivort wrote:
> Jones, in fairness, your truncation does miss my
point. Repost with the full quotation beyond the '...'
and I'll be glad to respond.
Yes, no problem. I hate it when someone does this to
me, even if I find myself agreeing with the strained
point which they were mak
Jones, in fairness, your truncation does miss my point. Repost with the full
quotation beyond the '...' and I'll be glad to respond.
Lawrence
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 11:07 AM
To: vortex
Subject:
--- Lawrence de Bivort wrote:
> My sense is that everyone does the best they can -
all the time. It is perhaps the greatest tragedy of
mankind that we can see better ways of doing things...
One the contrary, Lawrence, I strongly believe that
this is absolutely wrong... so wrong that it is "not
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