Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-24 Thread Terry Blanton
To a moose. :-) T On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 6:52:41 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-24 Thread Harry Veeder
of electro-tweaking of the strong forces in the nucleus. Harry - Original Message From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 5:53:00 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition Useful comments, Jed, The intent

RE: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-24 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Harry Veeder I think nuclear physicists reserve the term fusion for interactions involving the strong nuclear force, and the terms fission and neutron absorption are terms reserved for interactions involving the electro-weak force. Harry, the electroweak is

RE: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: We should also add: A Canadian is a fellow wearing English tweeds, a Hong Kong shirt and Spanish shoes . . . As long as we are beating up Canadians -- quoting a Canadian author: By rights our nation should be the proud inheritor of British culture, U.S. technology and

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: ... By rights our nation should be the proud inheritor of British culture, U.S. technology and French cooking. Somehow we ended up with British cooking, U.S. culture, and French technology. Quit bashing the French! We envy their Nuclear utility technology! 8-0 Canadians... well...

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-24 Thread Terry Blanton
Are Canadians proud of what happened at the UoO yesterday? I guess freedom of speech is only okay if you believe in what the speaker has to say. T

RE: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:41 PM 3/24/2010, Jones Beene wrote: An alpha decay, say from Pd having been activated by a cold neutron is a QM reaction - even if it involves an excited nucleus emitting an alpha particle, which is of course identical to a helium-4 nucleus, since both mass number and atomic number are the

RE: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:41 PM 3/24/2010, Jones Beene wrote: PS: in a followup to really important scientific insight, such as your previous: A Canadian is someone who knows how to make love in a canoe without tipping it. We should also add: A Canadian is a fellow wearing English tweeds, a Hong Kong shirt and

RE: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:55 PM 3/24/2010, Jed Rothwell wrote: That reminds me of JFK's comment that Washington DC is a city of Southern efficiency and Northern charm. That had me going for a minute, until I realized that he did *not* get it backwards.

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-24 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 4:41:29 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder I think nuclear physicists reserve the term fusion

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-24 Thread Harry Veeder
Ann Coulter is luv'n it. Harry - Original Message From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 5:28:19 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition Are Canadians proud of what happened at the UoO yesterday? I guess freedom

[Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
A question for the Vort Collective: Does the use of the term Fusion HAVE to imply there must exist a mechanism or process that directly overcomes the Coulomb barrier - by brute force? Could fusion also be used to explain a mechanism or process, a process that is not yet understood and as such is

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread Alexander Hollins
I was under the impression that nuclear fusion means any process that fuses the nuclei of two or more atoms. On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:56 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: A question for the Vort Collective: Does the use of the term Fusion HAVE to imply there

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Alexander: I was under the impression that nuclear fusion means any process that fuses the nuclei of two or more atoms. ... That may indeed be the impression that many hold. It is, in fact, the impression I hold as well. Nevertheless, I'm also under the impression that many may NOT

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:56 PM 3/23/2010, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: A question for the Vort Collective: Does the use of the term Fusion HAVE to imply there must exist a mechanism or process that directly overcomes the Coulomb barrier - by brute force? Absolutely not. Muon-catalyzed fusion does it

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread Alexander Hollins
okay, this isnt a definition of Fusion youre looking for , but a theory of how fusion works? Two different things my friend. On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:44 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: From Alexander: I was under the impression that nuclear fusion means any

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread Horace Heffner
On Mar 23, 2010, at 9:56 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: A question for the Vort Collective: Does the use of the term Fusion HAVE to imply there must exist a mechanism or process that directly overcomes the Coulomb barrier - by brute force? The term in question I think is nuclear

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Alexander: okay, this isnt a definition of Fusion youre looking for, but a theory of how fusion works? I'm not looking for a specific theory of how fusion works. My original question was more in tune with what might be considered a sociological query: What does the term fusion define?

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread Alexander Hollins
fusion means to make two things one. It is a much older term than anything we use it to mean. One could say that pouring water into a pan and adding sugar, you have made a fusion of water and sugar. Nuclear fusion is something different. You are being way to general, it seems to be. On Tue, Mar

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:46 PM 3/23/2010, Horace Heffner wrote: The term in question I think is nuclear fusion. There are many definitions which do not mention the Coulomb barrier. However, it appears plasma fusion is often assumed. And the reason is obvious. Almost all known fusion is plasma, thermonuclear

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread Harry Veeder
Fusion mechanism From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The fusion mechanism is the mechanism by which cell fusion takes place. Cell fusion is the formation of a hybrid cell from two different cells of different species.[1][2] Cells from the same organism may fuse together as well. This is

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread Harry Veeder
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Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: And the reason is obvious. Almost all known fusion is plasma, thermonuclear fusion. A.k.a. the brute force method. In the ACS press briefing, Peter Hagelstein called this kind of fusion vacuum reactions which I think is a good term. Regarding words and the

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Useful comments, Jed, The intent of my original query was to ask if there exists any kind of a perceived battle or struggle going on (subtle or not-so-subtle) pertaining to whether the use of the term, nuclear fusion, must imply a mechanism of overcoming the Coulomb barrier by some brute force

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:23 PM 3/23/2010, Harry Veeder wrote: How do you make babies? In a canoe or in a bed? Intercourse. A method whereby a man and a woman remove their clothes and come together in a bed to make babies. Therefore if it happens in a canoe, it ain't intercourse. Those people in the canoe,

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:23 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: And the reason is obvious. Almost all known fusion is plasma, thermonuclear fusion. A.k.a. the brute force method. In the ACS press briefing, Peter Hagelstein called this kind of fusion vacuum reactions which I think is a good

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread Horace Heffner
On Mar 23, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 03:46 PM 3/23/2010, Horace Heffner wrote: The term in question I think is nuclear fusion. There are many definitions which do not mention the Coulomb barrier. However, it appears plasma fusion is often assumed. And the reason is

Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition

2010-03-23 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 6:52:41 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Request for fusion definition At 05:23 PM 3/23/2010, Harry Veeder wrote: How do you make babies