In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:38:13 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
>> Actually the old argument is correct, in concept, but wrong in magnitude.
>> In order to come down in exactly the same spot (assuming a perfectly vertical
>> jump), one would have to maintain the same angula
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> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Revisiting The "Whipmag" All-Magnet Motor, saga
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> In reply to Harry Veeder'
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Mon, 1 Aug 2011 19:22:34 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
>This reminds me of a pre 17th century argument that the Earth cannot be
>turning.
>As everyone knows if the Earth was turning then the ground would move away
>from you whenever you jumped in the air. However
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> From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
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> Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 5:39:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Revisiting The "Whipmag" All-Magnet Motor, saga
>
> However, despite my lack of funding & no sho
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:39 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
wrote:
> My initial interest was strongly biased towards speculating on whether
> an asymmetry might begin to manifest in "Alsetalokin's" ROTOR/STATOR
> configuration if everything could be carefully choreographed with a
> customized g
>From Terry:
> Well, Clanzer, and others, built exact replicas to no avail.
> I would not advise you to follow suit.
I wasn't planning on it.
My initial interest was strongly biased towards speculating on whether
an asymmetry might begin to manifest in "Alsetalokin's" ROTOR/STATOR
configuration
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:32 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
wrote:
> As for me, I'm tapped out cash wise. ... the garage is a mess, too.
Well, Clanzer, and others, built exact replicas to no avail. I would
not advise you to follow suit.
T
> The thing that bugged me about the whipmag saga was that Al did
> say, quietly, offhandedly, that no laws of physics were being
> broken, but made the demo look as convincing as he could.
Yes. Sounds like you were there for the whole stinking show. I have
followed his posts on the Steorn forum
> From Terrry:
>
> > The consensus at the time was it was driven with a
> > compressed air nozzle.
Al spun the small gear several times before he was able to get the
device to start. Could the 'failed' attempts have been a cover for
winding a spring?
The thing that bugged me about the whipmag sa
>From Terrry:
> The consensus at the time was it was driven with a
> compressed air nozzle.
A reasonably educated guess.
Nevertheless, I'm not yet ready to throw in the towel. (Or perhaps I'm
not finished obsessing over... I mean amusing myself over the
"Alsetalokin" matter.) ;-)
The original "
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:35 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
wrote:
> That may be so, but OC's "dream" variation is, IMO, categorically
> different than what "Alsetalokin's" original configuration appears to
> show. IMHO, OC "dream", specifically the dynamic animation displayed
> out at the web
>From Terry:
> Actually, the animation is per OC's idea which came to him in a dream.
> The whipmag was a variation on the dream.
That may be so, but OC's "dream" variation is, IMO, categorically
different than what "Alsetalokin's" original configuration appears to
show. IMHO, OC "dream", specif
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:36 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
wrote:
> Regarding the animated graphic purporting to represent the "whipMag"
> configuration in action, as shown out at:
>
> http://www.overunity.org.uk/cmps_index.php?pageid=whipmag1
>
> this animation appears (to me) to have been a
Terry,
Some follow-up comments.
> The present belief is that the whipmag was a hoax which got
> way out of hand when the vid went viral. Al removed the vid
> but it got copied by others. OC has since passed away and
> Al seems to regret the whole incident from what little he
> will say.
Consid
>From Stephen,
> Please note that physics simulation packages are going to be based on
> physical law, as currently understood, and the "conventional" E&M model of
> magnetism is conservative. As a result, the assumption of conservative
> behavior is built into the modeling package.
>
> Consequen
On 11-07-31 10:10 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
Upon closer inspection, this counter-intuitive configuration is
actually less bizarre to comprehend to those (such as me) who have
studied magnetic characteristics, and who have performed countless
Finite Element Method Magnetic
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:10 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
wrote:
> Back around 2008 I gather someone who went by the name of "Alsetalokin"
> (that's Nicola Tesla spelled backwards) brought an unusual magnetic motor
> configuration to the public domain's attention.
He got the idea fro
Changing the subject for a brief spell from the continuing Rossi saga I must
confess the fact that I have recently found myself revisiting the "Whipmag"
All-Magnet Motor incident. For those who might be curious you can read up on
that recent period of history out at peswiki where a dedicated link e
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