From the info I have Wigner effect seems another bad excuse to reject more
simple facts...
however if it was true, such a huge storage (still unreliable like many new
technologies), would be a HUGE REVOLUTIOn in Science, in Engineering...
like we expected for LENR, it is evident that such giant
I wrote:
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Andy Findlay andy_find...@orange.netwrote:
I wasn't aware that hydrogen was capable of beta decay.
Beta minus decay is possible under extreme conditions. But you would need
to temporarily place the hydrogen you wanted to decay on a core-collapsing
Thanks, Eric,
Yes, that fits within my conceptual view of what is possible for
hydrogen. I think Stewart has got things a bit muddled.
Andy.
On 28/11/12 08:29, Eric Walker wrote:
I wrote:
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM,
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:29:16 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
On second thought, ?- decay isn't correct. I'm having a hard time saying
for sure exactly what kind of beta decay it is. I don't imagine it's the
normal inverse beta decay (inner shell electron capture), since
Andy,
I don't think Eric said it was not some type of Beta decay, just not Beta
-. There are many people on here brighter than me so I will let
them figure out what type. Maybe the lattice somehow polarizes neutrinos
and you get more collisions.
Stewart
On Wednesday, November 28, 2012, Andy
Thanks, Jed,
You are implying that you don't believe that the stored Wigner effect
energy per gram could be many orders of magnitude higher in Palladium
(or Nickel, for that matter) than in graphite because of the 4eV per
atom limit. Correct?
Please don't get me wrong - I am hoping that I
Does anybody know of a sensible counter-argument (or maybe even a
peer reviewed refutation) to the idea that the anomalous heat of
cold-fusion/LENR might just be due to a Wigner-(like)-Effect?
I had never heard of the Wigner Effect
until a couple of days ago when I
The Wigner effect cannot produce megajoules per mole. Morrison never
understood that concept. That is why he failed to see the significance of a
cell that produced 1,700 more energy than any chemical source of energy
could. See:
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Fleischmanreplytothe.pdf
Perhaps he
If billions of neutrinos are flowing through all matter all of the time, if
you pack enough hydrogen in a concentrated area you are bound to get a head
on collision now or then leading to beta decay. Probably also leads to
hydrogen embrittlement over time and maybe the gravitational acceleration
Thanks for the link, Jed.
I've only skimmed it (so far), but it has given me some insight into
Morrison's stance on the issue. And yes, I also get annoyed by people
who confuse power with energy (Rossi, conspicuously). However, the pdf
does not mention the Wigner effect.
You state that the
I wasn't aware that hydrogen was capable of beta decay.
Andy.
On 27/11/12 23:03, ChemE Stewart wrote:
If billions of neutrinos are flowing through all
matter all of the time, if you pack enough hydrogen in a
concentrated area you are bound to get a head
Andy Findlay andy_find...@orange.net wrote:
You state that the Wigner effect cannot produce megajoules per mole - well
that is the sort of information I'm looking for but could you point me to a
paper . . .
According to ahem, cough, cough Wikipedia:
Accumulation of energy in irradiated
Andy,
Check out the picture on the link below
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino
If it happens in the atmosphere we call it a warm sunny day.
If it happens in a void with hydrogen in the dark we gaze in amazement and
ask for money.
Go figure.
Stewart
Darkmattersalot.com
On Tuesday,
Do you suppose all of those climate models take into account the energy
released to Earth through natural Beta decay and LENR reactions from
billions of tons of neutrinos and other dark matter stuff? NOT. It also
does not take into account what happens when a large dark matter nucleus
from a
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Andy Findlay andy_find...@orange.netwrote:
I wasn't aware that hydrogen was capable of beta decay.
Beta minus decay is possible under extreme conditions. But you would need
to temporarily place the hydrogen you wanted to decay on a core-collapsing
star.
Eric
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