Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mitchell Swartz wrote: > Thereafter, you also received copies of then entire three papers by > email and we discussed them, No, I never did. I doubt the papers can be e-mailed, because you told me they are large, and e-mail can only handle a few megabytes. > so your credibility is ZERO with

Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mitchell Swartz wrote: > Mr. Rothwell: >You are an absolute untruthful person. Witnesses watched me hand you > the papers > and the CD-ROM containing them at Gene's funeral Yes. As I said -- about a dozen times -- I could not read that CD-ROM. Please upload the papers to your own web page

Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-29 Thread Mitchell Swartz
At 05:12 PM 1/29/2005, you wrote: Mitchell Swartz wrote: >>We put the titles back! They are in the database! > >Nonsense. The three papers are NOT in the ICCF-10 data base at > http://www.lenr-canr.org/Collections/ICCF10.htm > which is (inaccurately) entitled " That list only includes papers th

Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mitchell Swartz wrote: >>We put the titles back! They are in the database! > >Nonsense. The three papers are NOT in the ICCF-10 data base at > http://www.lenr-canr.org/Collections/ICCF10.htm > which is (inaccurately) entitled " That list only includes papers that we have on file at LENR-CANR

Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-29 Thread Mitchell Swartz
At 11:08 AM 1/28/2005, Jed Rothwell continues his patent nonsense, and wrote: Mitchell Swartz wrote: > First,The matter involves the TITLES of the papers delivered at ICCF-10. > The "files" discussed here are not the papers, but the NAMES of the papers > and the names which were removed. W

Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-28 Thread Edmund Storms
Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: We publish all papers that can be understood and are of value to the field. As anyone can see, our standards are rather low, but not absent. Ahem! I would prefer to say our standards are "rather broad minded" or perhaps "forgiving." Our standards are lo

Re: Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-28 Thread orionworks
> From: Mitchell Swartz ... > Ed Storms is being disingenuous. It is not clear why > continues the misstatements with Rothwell, but they > require a response. ... > Dr. Mitchell Swartz > It's been my experience that first impressions all too often generate lasting and devastating pe

Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mitchell Swartz wrote: > First,The matter involves the TITLES of the papers delivered at ICCF-10. > The "files" discussed here are not the papers, but the NAMES of the papers > and the names which were removed. We put the titles back! They are in the database! Why are you still complaining ab

Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-28 Thread Mitchell Swartz
At 02:33 PM 1/27/2005, Edmund "JohnnyCJohnny" Storms wrote: Neither Jed nor I have any reason to keep his papers off the site, other than his lack of cooperation. We publish all papers that can be understood and are of value to the field. As anyone can see, our standards are rather low, but no

Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: We publish all papers that can be understood and are of value to the field.  As anyone can see, our standards are rather low, but not absent. Ahem! I would prefer to say our standards are "rather broad minded" or perhaps "forgiving." Okay, it means the same thing, but the sit

Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-27 Thread Edmund Storms
Mitchell Swartz wrote: At 11:44 AM 1/27/2005, Edmund Storms wrote: Dr. Swartz, if you have a problem with what Jed or I have done with your papers, take it up with us personally. Do not waste the time of everyone on Vortex. They can not solve your problem. Ed: First, Rothwell brought

Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-27 Thread Mitchell Swartz
At 11:44 AM 1/27/2005, Edmund Storms wrote: Dr. Swartz, if you have a problem with what Jed or I have done with your papers, take it up with us personally. Do not waste the time of everyone on Vortex. They can not solve your problem. Ed: First, Rothwell brought this up. He wasted ever

Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-27 Thread Edmund Storms
Dr. Swartz, if you have a problem with what Jed or I have done with your papers, take it up with us personally. Do not waste the time of everyone on Vortex. They can not solve your problem. God knows, Jed has tried and failed. Ed Storms Mitchell Swartz wrote: At 09:52 AM 1/26/2005, Jed Rothwe

Re: Physics today 1/25/05 feder

2005-01-27 Thread RC Macaulay
Knuke said it better than me.  Back in 1965 our company paid $1000 bucks for  a Friden " colonel Boggy" mechanical calculator,  the big boy with a thousand gears, an absolute work of art in mechanical computing for flow equations. Within a year or two, we bought a Sharp electronic calculator

Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-27 Thread Mitchell Swartz
At 09:52 AM 1/26/2005, Jed Rothwell, as usual, confuses the subject and is disingenuous, wrote: Mitchell Swartz wrote: Second, some of the very papers which contain controls and time-integration are not present at the censored (and misnamed) LENR-CANR.org site. Well, in that case, whoever wrote

Re: Physics today 1/25/05 feder

2005-01-27 Thread Michael Huffman
Gnorts! One of the misconceptions regarding the research done by private industry is that private industry would publish their work, or even let it be known that work was being done in a particular field by that industry in the first place. Private industry only reports on what it does if it

Re: Physics today 1/25/05 feder

2005-01-26 Thread Steven Krivit
No, I don't. I guess I approach things differently. I don't make statements about the cold fusion field unless I have evidence to back them up. At 07:35 PM 1/26/2005 -0600, you wrote: Steve, I may pose the question.. do you have any evidence they are NOT ?   The industrial world is busy, ask Si

Re: Physics today 1/25/05 feder

2005-01-26 Thread RC Macaulay
Steve, I may pose the question.. do you have any evidence they are NOT ?   The industrial world is busy, ask Siemems, Toshiba or Boeing/GE   Richard   <>

Re: Physics today 1/25/05-feder

2005-01-26 Thread Steven Krivit
RC, I, like Jed, question your assertions. While I agree with you that the Japanese are taking this more seriously than the U.S., your claims seem greatly exaggerated. Do you have any evidence to back them up or to demonstrate how you might know this? At 10:13 AM 1/26/2005 -0500, you wrote: RC Ma

Re: Physics today 1/25/05-feder

2005-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
RC Macaulay wrote: The USA programs are unpublished because they are under NSA guidelines. The Japanese are working at warp speed on the same within their Universities as well as their industrial labs. I doubt that. No Japanese researcher I know has heard a word about such programs. If there are

Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mitchell Swartz wrote: Second, some of the very papers which contain controls and time-integration are not present at the censored (and misnamed) LENR-CANR.org site. Well, in that case, whoever wrote these very papers should upload them somewhere else -- or submit them to LENR-CANR.org. The site

Re: Physics today 1/25/05-feder

2005-01-25 Thread RC Macaulay
Outside the University atmosphere, there are many Cf programs taking place in the industrial labs within the USA as well as the world.    The USA programs are unpublished because they are under NSA guidelines. The Japanese are working at warp speed on the same within their Universities as we

Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-25 Thread Mitchell Swartz
At 03:28 PM 1/25/2005, Jed Rothwell wrote: Mitchell Swartz wrote: Physics Today appears to have come down heavy, and somewhat inaccurately, on the DOE report. "Claims of cold fusion are no more convincing today than they were 15 years ago. That's the conclusion of the Department of Energy's fres

Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mitchell Swartz wrote: Physics Today appears to have come down heavy, and somewhat inaccurately, on the DOE report. "Claims of cold fusion are no more convincing today than they were 15 years ago. That's the conclusion of the Department of Energy's fresh look at advances in extracting energy from

Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-25 Thread Mitchell Swartz
Physics Today appears to have come down heavy, and somewhat inaccurately, on the DOE report. "Claims of cold fusion are no more convincing today than they were 15 years ago. That's the conclusion of the Department of Energy's fresh look at advances in extracting energy from low-energy nuclear r