Re: [Vo]:Amoco (Oil Company) replication of cold fusion experiment in 1994.

2011-12-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
I do not mean they got no positive results at all. As I recall, they got small results and made little progress toward reproducibility. One of them retired and the project ground to a halt. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Amoco (Oil Company) replication of cold fusion experiment in 1994.

2011-12-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: Could they no longer get the *original* *cell* to work, or was it just new cells that didn't work? As far as I know they used the same cell, but different cathodes. In cold fusion, when you fail to reproduce most of the time the problem is in the

Re: [Vo]:Amoco (Oil Company) replication of cold fusion experiment in 1994.

2011-12-28 Thread David ledin
quote from Amoco document This report will discuss briefly some of the early calorimetric experiments on cold fusion and in more detail, a single experiment just concluded.A closed cell electrolytic experiment has been conducted using a palladium cathode and platinum anode with accurate (+/-0.001

Re: [Vo]:Amoco (Oil Company) replication of cold fusion experiment in 1994.

2011-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
A cleaner copy is here: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Lautzenhiscoldfusion.pdf See also: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Lautzenhisconstanthe.pdf - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Amoco (Oil Company) replication of cold fusion experiment in 1994.

2011-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: A cleaner copy is here: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Lautzenhiscoldfusion.pdf The authors went over this. They may have made a few corrections. I seem to recall there was a problem with a figure, which we fixed. This is easier to read, and quote from. Note the Discussion, which

RE: [Vo]:Amoco (Oil Company) replication of cold fusion experiment in 1994.

2011-12-28 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Jed: I wrote: A cleaner copy is here: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Lautzenhiscoldfusion.pdf Yes, adding page numbering would be useful. When was the original report published? I don't see a date displayed on the PDF copy. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com

Re: [Vo]:Amoco (Oil Company) replication of cold fusion experiment in 1994.

2011-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: When was the original report published? I don't see a date displayed on the PDF copy. It was circulated around 1994. They brought a copy to ICCF-4 (1994). I well remember what happened when showed it to John Huizenga. He turned green and fled. It

Re: [Vo]:Amoco (Oil Company) replication of cold fusion experiment in 1994.

2011-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
That was messed up! They sent me Fig. R5 but I forgot to add it. I added it in now, plus I added page numbers. You may need to reload the file to see them: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Lautzenhiscoldfusion.pdf - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Amoco (Oil Company) replication of cold fusion experiment in 1994.

2011-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: I talked to one of the researchers and some people who assisted. The old company did not suppress this I meant the oil company not the old company. I wasn't even using dictation. I got that wrong the old fashioned way. This file was originally dated March 19, 1990. I have an

Re: [Vo]:Amoco (Oil Company) replication of cold fusion experiment in 1994.

2011-12-28 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 11-12-28 03:09 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: I wrote: A cleaner copy is here: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Lautzenhiscoldfusion.pdf The authors went over this. They may have made a few corrections. I seem to recall there was a problem with a figure, which we fixed. The title of

Re: [Vo]:Amoco (Oil Company) replication of cold fusion experiment in 1994.

2011-12-28 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 11-12-28 04:37 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: I talked to one of the researchers and some people who assisted. The oil company did not suppress this result. The researchers could not reproduce it. After years of trying they finally gave up. However, they stand by the original result. Jed, do