Proton-Boron Hydrino Fusion(Fission)? (was: Small scale ICF)

2005-03-04 Thread Mark S Bilk
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 10:41:47AM -0800, Jones Beene wrote: The reaction p+11B -- 3 alphas has always seemed the ideal, in-a-perfect-world kind of nuclear reaction for ecological energy production. Would this

Re: The CoFu Bomb Game

2005-03-04 Thread thomas malloy
Grimer posted; Why not develop a computer game in which you first have to kidnap various scientists such as Dr Bones and Professor Fleshman and then persuade them using various macabre instruments Don't forget the evil Dr. Park, attempting to protect the establishment at all costs. I'm sure it

Re: ZPE-Cryopumping Inversion Temperature

2005-03-04 Thread Frederick Sparber
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A2524493 The Inversion Temperature: " the 'normal' effect of cooling when a gas expands takes place below that temperature, above that temperature it heats under expansion." The Papp engine: Issue #51 of Infinite-Energy September/October 2003

Re: Correa, etc.

2005-03-04 Thread Mike Carrell
Jeff, I can understand one reason you never saw the OU effect. You ***must*** use the Correa circuit, including the batteries. The PAGD discharge conatains a lot of energy anda single discharge willcharge up any reasonable heap of capacitors to the pointthat the PAGD discharge is quenched.

RE: CF on NPR

2005-03-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Steck wrote: You really expect a fair shake on NPR? Yes, I do -- for a good reason. The short segment they broadcast with Ira Flatow was quite fair and accurate. Flatow has often communicated with us that he knows what the story is. He was a little timid, but accurate. I am hoping the

RE: Correa, etc.

2005-03-04 Thread Zell, Chris
I respect your opinion and have spent considerable time analysing the patents and related comments by Aspden. There is a need to make the PAGD practical - huge banks of batteries aren't going to do it. I think we need To look at pulse transformers to bring the voltages down to more useable

RE: CF on NPR

2005-03-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: I did read it, and that is why I sent the message. I am hoping they will make me the subject champion of cold fusion. If the people in charge are reasonably fair they will let me fix the article and then lock it. Mind you, I am not expecting a response. The people in charge probably do

Re: Proton-Boron Hydrino Fusion(Fission)? (was: Small scale ICF)

2005-03-04 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: Mark S Bilk Would this reaction p + 11B - 3 alphas + 8.7 Mev be a candidate for hydrino fusion (resulting in fission), in an electrolytic or plasma-electrolytic cell? 80% of boron atoms are 11B, the rest are 10B. Boric acid (H3BO3) and borax (Na2B4O7)

RE: CF on NPR

2005-03-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Grimer wrote: There must be some neurotic tree-hugging Vortexian who could be relied on to play his part convincingly. Wheel him on to explain the horrors which will ensue if the terrorists get there before the US is ready with adequate counter measures. If I do say so myself, I think I did a

Re: The CoFu Bomb Game

2005-03-04 Thread leaking pen
wow. grimer. can we not see political bias just oozing from every pore? please, keep that off of here. On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 02:56:06 -0600, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grimer posted; Why not develop a computer game in which you first have to kidnap various scientists such as Dr

Re: Correa, etc.

2005-03-04 Thread revtec
In all the written info from the Correas, I never saw a mention of whether they were going for a forward pulse or a reverse pulse or both. With all due respect to Mike, the Correas never proved that OU performance cannot be done with a proper capacitor circuit. Your idea of using a pulse

Re: The CoFu Bomb Game

2005-03-04 Thread Steven Krivit
Why not develop a computer game in which you first have to kidnap various scientists such as Dr Bones and Professor Fleshman and then persuade them using various macabre instruments Don't forget the evil Dr. Park, attempting to protect the establishment at all costs. Keep with the theme, that

RE: CF on NPR

2005-03-04 Thread Steven Krivit
Jed wrote: Yes, I do -- for a good reason. The short segment they broadcast with Ira Flatow was quite fair and accurate. Flatow has often communicated with us that he knows what the story is. He was a little timid, but accurate. I am hoping the other reporters on NPR contact him and discuss

The work of Chris Arnold

2005-03-04 Thread orionworks
Vorts, Have any in this group kept tabs on the work being performed by the inventor, Chris Arnold, specifically his Pulsed Plasma technology? Check out: http://hometown.aol.com/hypercom59/ A little history (as I understand it): I recall there had been some scathing criticism of Mr. Arnold's

RE: Correa, etc.

2005-03-04 Thread Keith Nagel
Chris writes: A sad matter that requires some attention in regard to the Correas' work concerns their unusual state of Mind. We have discussed Correas' work before on Vo. You can look in the archive for the details. Paulo follows the list very closely, but only posts under pseudonyms if at all. I

Re: The CoFu Bomb Game

2005-03-04 Thread Grimer
At 09:19 am 04-03-05 -0800, Steven Krivit wrote: Why not develop a computer game in which you first have to kidnap various scientists such as Dr Bones and Professor Fleshman and then persuade them using various macabre instruments... Don't forget the evil Dr. Park, attempting to protect the

RE: CF on NPR

2005-03-04 Thread Grimer
At 11:00 am 04-03-05 -0500, you wrote: Grimer wrote: There must be some neurotic tree-hugging Vortexian who could be relied on to play his part convincingly. Wheel him on to explain the horrors which will ensue if the terrorists get there before the US is ready with adequate counter measures. If

Way off topic Fw: CAB RIDE

2005-03-04 Thread revtec
CAB RIDE Twenty years ago, I drove a cab for a living. When I arrived at 2:30 a.m., the building was dark except for a single light in a ground floor window. Under these circumstances, many drivers would just honk once or twice, wait a minute, then drive away. But, I had seen

RE: CF on NPR

2005-03-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Grimer wrote: I think he thought it would heat the fridge up, Jed. Medical people aren't very good with numbers (pace Mills). . . . Hmm . . . Well, it would heat it up, naturally. But the fact that the fridge was cold when you opened the door showed that the compressor was keeping up, and

Re: Correa, etc.

2005-03-04 Thread Mike Carrell
Jeff Fink wrote: In all the written info from the Correas, I never saw a mention of whether they were going for a forward pulse or a reverse pulse or both. With all due respect to Mike, the Correas never proved that OU performance cannot be done with a proper capacitor circuit. In the

RE: CF on NPR

2005-03-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Steven Krivit wrote: Henry Bauer touches on the very heart of why mainstream science journalism has been largely unwilling/unable to bridge the communication gap between the cold fusion community and the broader science community. A constant dilemma for reporters, Bauer says, is that they need

RE: CF on NPR

2005-03-04 Thread Steven Krivit
That is true. And yet Flatow's report was accurate and positive, albeit timid. Some people in the media get away with reporting facts about cold fusion, and they are not punished by losing access. I suspect the others would also escape unscathed, but perhaps they are cowards and do not want

Re: Correa, etc.

2005-03-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell wrote: joules to 17,800 volts. To prevent the terminal voltage from rising to, say 100 volts, 100 farads of capactors would be needed, or 17,857 capcitors. By comparison, batteries look pretty good. . . . You absolutely do not use a capacitance across the tube. What you have built is

RE: Correa, etc.

2005-03-04 Thread Keith Nagel
Mike writes: You absolutely do not use a capacitance across the tube. What you have built is a gas-discharge relaxation oscillator equivalent to any common strobe flash. It is ***not*** a PAGD reactor. I agree with Mike in this. Electrode capacity and geometry are important parameters for this

Re: Correa, etc.

2005-03-04 Thread Edmund Storms
Jed Rothwell wrote: Mike Carrell wrote: joules to 17,800 volts. To prevent the terminal voltage from rising to, say 100 volts, 100 farads of capactors would be needed, or 17,857 capcitors. By comparison, batteries look pretty good. . . . You absolutely do not use a capacitance across the tube.

Re: Correa, etc.

2005-03-04 Thread Mike Carrell
Jed wrote: Mike Carrell wrote: joules to 17,800 volts. To prevent the terminal voltage from rising to, say 100 volts, 100 farads of capactors would be needed, or 17,857 capcitors. By comparison, batteries look pretty good. . . . You absolutely do not use a capacitance across the tube.

Re: Correa

2005-03-04 Thread Zell, Chris
Now we're getting somewhere! Perhaps a huge part of this mystery concerns the critical design of the output. Too small a capacitor and the pulse action will be inhibited because the capacitor will be filled. Too fast or brief a pulse and the battery may reject most of it as heat

Re: Correa, etc.

2005-03-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: and Miles were able to reproduce it on their own. If the necessary skills and knowledge have been as obscure as those required for the pagd, it probably would have been lost. While I agree with Jed about the basic point he is making, success in replicating the cold fusion

Re: Correa

2005-03-04 Thread Mark S Bilk
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 04:25:55PM -0600, Zell, Chris wrote: Perhaps a huge part of this mystery concerns the critical design of the output. Too small a capacitor and the pulse action will be inhibited because the

Re: Correa

2005-03-04 Thread revtec
I don't know anything about electrochemistry in batteries, but I question the ability of a string cells to absorb a fast high energy pulse without impedance, and that this impedence would cause a voltage spike. Maybe the spike has a different contour than a cap has and that makes the

Re: More military might-have-beens . . .

2005-03-04 Thread Grimer
At 05:48 pm 04-03-05 -0500, Jed wrote: I wrote: (The CIA says that 95% of men under 40 in Saudi Arabia approve of Al Qaeda and consider Bin Laden a national hero, so I am sure they have unlimited funds at their disposal.) Correction: the government of Saudi Arabia says that, based on public