Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-11 Thread John Berry
Adrian, I am using gmail which threads emails and has the newest at the bottom which is not yours. You need to either look into how Thunderbird arranges things, or switch to something else. Personally I would never go back to thunderbird after getting used to gmail. What you see is not what

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-11 Thread Lennart Thornros
Sometimes you guys are discussing the details instead of the concept. Believe me although I never been advising the government. Yes, I did talk to a prominent world politician and found him just a a bunch of well formulted sentences. I agree with David. The problem is that we allow the private and

[Vo]:published in a peer review

2014-12-11 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Please help me by fwd the article to as wide of an audience as possible. http://benthamopen.com/journal/render-volume.php?volumeID=CHEMISTRY-V1 Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: The proposal http://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/-in-our-hands_105549266790.pdf from the conservative thinktank American Enterprise Institute's scholar Charles Murray is worded as follows: Henceforth, federal, state, and local governments

RE: [Vo]:published in a peer review

2014-12-11 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Congrats Frank! Please keep us informed as to responses or reviews by the scientific community. -mark From: Frank Znidarsic [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 5:53 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:published in a peer review Please help me by fwd the

[Vo]:Info for today

2014-12-11 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Friends, Two papers; waiting news from MFMP http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2014/12/daily-shared-lenr-news.html I wish you well.. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:published in a peer review

2014-12-11 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Thanks Mark, I will. I have all sent it out to many organizations. The velocity in the paper 1,094,000 meters per second comes from my cold fusion work. I don't mention that in the paper because I want the work to get out as far as possible. I also mention the 1.36 fermi dimension in the

Re: [Vo]:published in a peer review

2014-12-11 Thread Bob Cook
Frank-- Nice work. I assume you know about the latest theory regarding tunneling concepts associated with nuclear reactions proposed by Gullstrom at Uppsala. It seems to explain the Lugano results fairly well. Your summary--The energy of a propagating light appears as a wave. Points of

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-11 Thread a.ashfield
When Robots Replace Human Workers (Harvard Business Review) Progress in information storage and processing have made possible the creation intelligent machines at amazing speed that will soon dominate the world economy and devalue human labor:This is why we will soon be looking at hordes

Re: [Vo]: Neutron Tunneling Theory regarding Lugano Report--

2014-12-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Kevin O'Malley's message of Fri, 5 Dec 2014 17:40:29 -0800: Hi, [snip] This seems promising. I'm having trouble seeing the difference between neutron tunneling and neutron capture. [snip] Neutron capture assumes the presence of free neutrons, which one would also expect to turn up in

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-11 Thread Bob Cook
A simple law will fix the problem of robots replacing people. The main features of such a law follow: Only real persons shall be allowed to own a robot free of tax. Additional robots can be owned by any given biological person, but at an increasing tax as deemed necessary to keep

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-11 Thread John Berry
Damn good idea Bob! Yes, people can get paid for what their robot does! On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: A simple law will fix the problem of robots replacing people. The main features of such a law follow: Only real persons shall be allowed to

Re: [Vo]: Neutron Tunneling Theory regarding Lugano Report--

2014-12-11 Thread Axil Axil
It is more probable that hydrogen provides protons which enter the nucleus in the LENR reaction. This proton surplus excess is the function of hydrogen in the Ni/H reactor. The Ni/H LENR reaction results in a proton rich nucleus. This nuclear condition is stabilized through the emission of the

RE: [Vo]: Neutron Tunneling Theory regarding Lugano Report--

2014-12-11 Thread Jones Beene
https://inis.iaea.org/search/search.aspx?orig_q=RN:27064120

Re: [Vo]:published in a peer review

2014-12-11 Thread Frank Znidarsic
I don't know anything of Gullstrom. What is omitted from the paper is when the stimulation becomes strong enough the probability of nuclear transition increases. -Original Message- From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Dec 11, 2014 2:52 pm

Re: [Vo]:published in a peer review

2014-12-11 Thread Frank Znidarsic
My theory is not about neutrons. Its about the non-conservation of the magnetic forces. In the nuclear case its the non-conservation of the spin orbit force in vibrating Bose condensate. This is beyond the scope of the simple paper. -Original Message- From: Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote: ref http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/12/10/mfmps-project-dog-bone-thread-update-1-first-test-on-dummy-core/ You mean: http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/12/11/when-robots-replace-human-workers-harvard-business-review/ Regarding the dog bone test, note

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: A simple law will fix the problem of robots replacing people. The main features of such a law follow: Only real persons shall be allowed to own a robot free of tax. Additional robots can be owned by any given biological person, but at an

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-11 Thread Bob Cook
Jed-- You noted: Finally, the moment you try to regulate such things, powerful people and unscrupulous people will find ways to get around the regulations. I would note that those kind of people have not gotten around the Atomic Energy Act in this country very well. Energy produced by use of

Re: [Vo]:published in a peer review

2014-12-11 Thread Bob Cook
Frank-- The Gullstrom paper(s) can be obtained here: http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/?p=497 Gullstrom is a student at Uppsala University. His theory seems to have been endorsed by a Lugano report author reporte by this web site. Bob - Original Message - From: Frank

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: I would note that those kind of people have not gotten around the Atomic Energy Act in this country very well. That is because radioactive material is difficult and expensive to produce and easy to detect, and it is produced in only a few facilities.

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-11 Thread Lennart Thornros
Hello Bob, Yes it is tempting to regulate. The first knee-jerk reaction of all bureaucrats. It never works. Licenses is another useless instrument - good for everybody who likes corruption. KISS is the right solution. All corporations have boards and are regulated to some degree. That will never

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-11 Thread John Berry
Sure, if someone dies of old age. A different story if one or both parents die from an accident leaving their possibly still you children to fend for themselves. They never thought of giving a whole lot of assets to the children. But if they did and the child dies? Maybe a better system would

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-11 Thread John Berry
Bob, there is one point I thought of when reading Jed's post. And that is what is the difference between one robot the size of a human and 1 robot that is the size of 50 people and has 50-100 arms and other components? What would normally be an army of robots could be made as one single robot.

Re: [Vo]: Neutron Tunneling Theory regarding Lugano Report--

2014-12-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:14:56 -0500: Hi, [snip] It is more probable that hydrogen provides protons which enter the nucleus in the LENR reaction. This proton surplus excess is the function of hydrogen in the Ni/H reactor. The Ni/H LENR reaction results in a proton

Re: [Vo]: Neutron Tunneling Theory regarding Lugano Report--

2014-12-11 Thread Axil Axil
. This doesn't explain why the reaction stopped at 62Ni. The one particle is one in a million. The transmutation result is just a result of chance.

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-11 Thread Lennart Thornros
John ! I actually agree with you in the first part. My thinking was that people will avoid the bad situation you describe and simply hand over what they think their children would need. The standard income goes to everybody and should be enough to live OK. If the state gets to inherit than the

Re: [Vo]:OT: what if everybody got free cash?

2014-12-11 Thread Bob Cook
Jed-- Your last comment: I do not think so. I do not know of any inherently safe products that regulated solely for the good of society. Making beer and wine is limited and distilling ethanol is prohibited without a license. (Ethanol, however, is considered safe and can

[Vo]:More from Takashashi about mixing

2014-12-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Jed wrote 5 years ago: http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=subject:%22%5BVo%5D%3AMore+from+Takashashi+about+mixing%22I had a brief conversation at ICCF-15 with Takahashi about mixing in the Kitamura experiment. ***Jed: Can you get in touch with Takahashi /or his team to