RE: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 5:23 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what? It seems the announcement of showing gravity waves are real is only of value to obscure academic discussions. Unless someone here might illuminate us about some practical

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

Russ George wrote: It seems the announcement of showing gravity waves are real is only of > value to obscure academic discussions. Unless someone here might illuminate > us about some practical derivatives that might be revealed due to the > findings. > You never know

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

There is an entire field of possible technological applications of GW. But for GW to have practical applications they have to be at high frequency and so not as the one discussed in the astrophysical context (these waves have frequencies that range between few Hz to thousands of Hz). This is

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

o be congratulated if the detections continue to be > confirmed. I remain weary of announcements that are produced so quickly. > > Dave > > > -Original Message- > From: Giovanni Santostasi <gsantost...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Se

RE: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

From: Giovanni Santostasi Ø There is an entire field of possible technological applications of GW. But for GW to have practical applications they have to be at high frequency… Even at low frequency, it is too bad that there were no reports of simultaneous energy bursts in ongoing LENR

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

ig claims again...I hope it is >> true but it is unlikely. >> >> Dave >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Giovanni Santostasi <gsantost...@gmail.com> >> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Thu, Feb 11, 2016 9:28 p

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

-Original Message- From: Giovanni Santostasi <gsantost...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Thu, Feb 11, 2016 9:28 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what? By the way, gravitational waves were the topic of my dissertation so feel free to ask any question abo

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

Santostasi <gsantost...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2016 11:08 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what? Here is the paper: https://journals.aps.org/prl/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevLett.116.061102 The detection statistics is 5.1 sigma, that corres

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

The paper of the event https://dcc.ligo.org/public/0122/P150914/014/LIGO-P150914%3ADetection_of_GW150914.pdf The event leaves no room for the GW was propagated other than c.

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

ce making big claims again...I hope it is > true but it is unlikely. > > Dave > > > -Original Message- > From: Giovanni Santostasi <gsantost...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Thu, Feb 11, 2016 9:28 pm > Subject: Re: [V

RE: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what? Sounds impressive! Perhaps I was a bit too skeptic and am warming up to the idea. If a collision 1 billion plus light years away produces a 24 dB SNR, then it is going to be amazing how clean a collision only 1 million LY's away

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this issue? Dave -Original Message- From: Giovanni Santostasi <gsantost...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2016 11:42 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what? There was not much filtering going on because the signal was so evid

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tances. Has anyone address this issue? Dave -Original Message- From: Giovanni Santostasi <gsantost...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2016 11:42 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what? There was not much filtering going on b

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2016 11:42 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what? There was not much filtering going on because the signal was so evident, 24 SNR. Other searches like looking for GW from rotating neutron stars try to dete

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

Santostasi <gsantost...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2016 11:42 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what? > > There was not much filtering going on because the signal was so evident, > 24 SNR. > > Other searches like l

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

ct distance assumed? It >> would seem that a two dimensional measuring platform would not be able to >> accurately determine the distance once large distances are anticipated. >> >> Dave >> >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: Giovanni Santos

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e far, far less sensitive or that there just >> happened to be no collisions during the sample time at these distances. >> Has anyone address this issue? >> >> Dave >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Giovanni Santostasi <gsantost...@gmail.com>

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Surfing the universe on gravity waves!

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

;vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2016 1:49 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what? The distance is not a free parameter. When you have 2 detectors waveforms you can fix the masses of the black holes, spins, orbital plane, final mass of the system, distance (of course with

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

maybe the best account and video of first LIGO gravity wave 2015.09.14: The New Yorker: Rich Murray 2016.02.11 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2016/02/maybe-best-account-and-video-of-first.html http://www.kurzweilai.net/we-have-detected-gravitational-waves-ligo-scientists 1:38:33 hour NSF event

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

Energy equivalent of three sun mass is dissipated as GW in 1/10 second and this energy appears not well absorbed by the universe. This is interesting from conservation of energy. If dissipation takes too much time there would be always a GW background noise which correspond to a energy density.

[Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

It seems the announcement of showing gravity waves are real is only of value to obscure academic discussions. Unless someone here might illuminate us about some practical derivatives that might be revealed due to the findings.

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: By the way, gravitational waves were the topic of my dissertation so feel > free to ask any question about the topic. It is very fascinating. > Given enough time, development and resources, will it be possible to

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

By the way, gravitational waves were the topic of my dissertation so feel free to ask any question about the topic. It is very fascinating. On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > It opens a complete different window on the Universe. > The analogy

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

It opens a complete different window on the Universe. The analogy that is often given is imagine the cosmic show is like a TV show. Until now we had video but not audio. Finally we turned the audio on. Gravitational waves are a different but complementary way to observe the universe. We already

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In another report I heard black hole collisions are thought to occur only once in a million years. Is that true? Also how can they know for certain that this not a seismic event? After all there is a great deal we do not know about the Earth's interior. Harry On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 9:27 PM,

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

Like Russ George (see below), I see no connection between our CMNS field and gravity waves. Ludwik = On Feb 11, 2016, at 9:26 PM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > It opens a complete different window on the Universe. > The analogy that is often given is imagine the