Re: [Vo]:Defkalion is open for testing as from now

2012-01-24 Thread Patrick Ellul
What is really good is that they want to test it for 96 hours (48+48) minimum. I think that will give so much more credibility to the invention. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote: since defkalion feel that the COP is above 20, no need to have a scientist.

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion is open for testing as from now

2012-01-24 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:09 PM 1/23/2012, Alain Sepeda wrote: since defkalion feel that the COP is above 20, no need to have a scientist. Static would be fine IF you monitor the entire surface of the hyperion. But I'm not at all happy with the two-thermometer COP calculation. I've got some other stuff to do, but

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion is open for testing as from now

2012-01-24 Thread Robert Lynn
I find it a little disappointing, that Defkalion are not going to use flow calorimetry for their demos. Their choice of course. It is a bit hard to understand their test procedure, they specify a Bare hyperion reactor but what that means is unclear, it also sounds like they are not using a

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion is open for testing as from now

2012-01-24 Thread Alain Sepeda
static calorimetry is ok, if they open their core, and it seems to be in the plan. smaller reactor mean also less room to hide rabits... I think that thei perfectly know how the demo will be, and they have done it many time. they probably have a very precise model of their reactor. it is why

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion is open for testing as from now

2012-01-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: I find it a little disappointing, that Defkalion are not going to use flow calorimetry for their demos. Their choice of course. I believe they intend to do that at a later date. Static (Isoperobolic) calorimetry is a little easier to set up,

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion is open for testing as from now

2012-01-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Has anyone stepped up yet, and is preparing to perform independent testing? I assume there HAS to be interest in this subject. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion is open for testing as from now

2012-01-24 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 09:31 AM 1/24/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 11:09 PM 1/23/2012, Alain Sepeda wrote: since defkalion feel that the COP is above 20, no need to have a scientist. Static would be fine IF you monitor the entire surface of the hyperion. But I'm not at all happy with the two-thermometer COP

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion is open for testing as from now

2012-01-23 Thread Douglas Hill
If we could pick any team in the world to do this testing, who would you trust? Who would be the Super Star team of scientists, skeptics and journalists who would be the most credible? On Jan 23, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion is open for testing as from now

2012-01-23 Thread Patrick Ellul
Steorn had done something similar. But their testing dragged on and on ad infinitum. I would say teams from different universities, i.e. academia would make good candidates. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Douglas Hill hil...@lemoyne.edu wrote: If we could pick any team in the world to do

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion is open for testing as from now

2012-01-23 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
A few thoughts come to mind. I think this forum can put together a team that would do a great job of testing. I know who would NOT be a good choice: - NOT a university that has any involvement with hot fusion, CERN, etc. - NOT a govt agency; can't trust them to be honest, or to do it

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion is open for testing as from now

2012-01-23 Thread Jay Caplan
Need publicity as well as trained people to test it. There are many qualified persons to set up the test. I suggest John Stossel to video the testing and edit to use in his show. - Original Message - From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion is open for testing as from now

2012-01-23 Thread Peter Gluck
I think the best would be an engineer- salesman like the one who had installed my home heater BOSCH 3000W plus a technician specialized in radioactivity measurements for an environment protection State authorithy. A good generator needs NO geniuses to confirm that it works well, I think. On Tue,

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion is open for testing as from now

2012-01-23 Thread Alain Sepeda
since defkalion feel that the COP is above 20, no need to have a scientist. moreover scientist are easy to manipulate (see the books of William Broad, *Nicholas Wade)*, so good old tricky engineer would be better. if you are really paranoid, a good magician/prestidigitator could be a consultant.