Re: [Vo]:PhysOrg reports on Krivit's latest article...
In reply to noone noone's message of Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:18:32 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] Krivit and other worshippers of Widom Larsen theory do not make any sense. The reaction is not a weak interaction, but a fusion reaction. The neutrons are supposed to be protons and electrons that become virtual neutrons. Basically, Widom Larsen worshippers want people to believe if a proton and electron put on a mask, they are no longer a proton and neutron. [snip] No, WL theory claims that the proton firsts undergoes a weak reaction with a heavy electron to become a real neutron, which then reacts with other nuclei. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:PhysOrg reports on Krivit's latest article...
Some would like to characterize Krivit as a snake. Rossi, particularly. In my view Krivit is simply a cynic. Being a cynic is neither good or bad. It's what one does with one's innate sense of cynicism that determines whether honoring such a perception of their surroundings serves them (and their readership) well - or not. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 10:12 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Being a cynic is neither good or bad. It's what one does with one's innate sense of cynicism that determines whether honoring such a perception of their surroundings serves them (and their readership) well - or not. The truly progressive cynic eventually forms a crusty chrysalis from which eventually emerges a jaded dung beetle. T (jaded)
Re: [Vo]:PhysOrg reports on Krivit's latest article...
Terry sez: The truly progressive cynic eventually forms a crusty chrysalis from which eventually emerges a jaded dung beetle. IMHO, a truly progressive cynic has a sense of humor. Some cynics make marvelous comedians. About a year ago I recall Mr. Krivit demanding that Mr. Rothwell publicly apologize for something Jed had sed that offended Krivit's sensibilities. I don't recall the particulars of that spat, nor do I care to - only that Jed didn't apologize. Soon after, Mr. Krivit announced that he was leaving the Vort Collective, presumably to avoid being the brunt of what he perceived as additional personal insults lobbed in his general direction - like farts. I perceive Mr. Krivit as working very hard at the task of being the best investigative journalist that he can be. I think he may still achieve that goal. Incidentally, as Dirty Harry once said: A man's got to know his limitations http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070355/quotes Despite the fact that I perceive Mr. Krivit as possessing the sensibilities of a cynic I think he has wisely chosen not to pursue the path of a comedian. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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I sed: I perceive Mr. Krivit as working very hard at the task of being the best investigative journalist that he can be. I think he may still achieve that goal. I just realized that the way I stated the above could imply that I don't perceive Mr. Krivit as possessing very good journalistic skills. This is obviously incorrect. I should have stated the above as: I perceive Mr. Krivit as working very hard at becoming an excellent investigative journalist. I think he may still achieve that goal. In some corners I suspect he may have already achieved it. Still, I would not recommend Mr. Krivit pursue the craft of comedy. One needs to be able to laugh at oneself. I see little evidence of such a trait in Krivit's public outpourings. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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Noteworthy that Krivit's 200 page report included detailed contributions by 25 volunteer experts, who showed a broad consensus for a skeptical assessment about excess energy... So it's not just Krivit... Not included -- thermal electrochemical corrosion of the electric input power heating resistor in the Rossi device: Rich Murray 2011.07.19 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2011_07_01_archive.htm Tuesday, July 19, 2011 [ at end of each long page, click on Older Posts ] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/90 [ you may have to Copy and Paste URLs into your browser ] within mutual service, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com 505-819-7388 rich.murray11 Skype audio, video
Re: [Vo]:PhysOrg reports on Krivit's latest article...
Can somebody explain me how, it is likely a weak interaction involving neutrons, without fusion could possibly gain energy? And where do these neutrons come from? It looks like people are more skeptical on the claim 'cold fusion' than on the claim that 'abra-ca-dabra' can actually do something. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote: You can get the gist of it just by the hyperlink... http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-08-controversial-energy-generating-lacking-credibility-video.html -Mark
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Bastiaan Bergman bastiaan.berg...@gmail.com wrote: Can somebody explain me how, it is likely a weak interaction involving neutrons, without fusion could possibly gain energy? And where do these neutrons come from? It looks like people are more skeptical on the claim 'cold fusion' than on the claim that 'abra-ca-dabra' can actually do something. See the Widom Larsen theory, which Krivit champions. For example: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Srivastavaaprimerfor.pdf - Jed
RE: [Vo]:PhysOrg reports on Krivit's latest article...
From Bergman Can somebody explain me how, it is likely a weak interaction involving neutrons, without fusion could possibly gain energy? And where do these neutrons come from? It looks like people are more skeptical on the claim 'cold fusion' than on the claim that 'abra-ca-dabra' can actually do something. What piqued my interest was reading the phrase ...a weak interaction involving neutrons, without fusion. Sure sounds like Widom-Larsen speak to me. My my my! What's going on under the bed sheets here? Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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The thing is Widom Larsen theory (which I do not think is valid) does produce nuclear fusion. When a proton and electron pretending to be a neutron enter an atom's nucleus releasing energy and causing transmutations, it is FUSION!!! The Widom Larsen folks are absolutely out of their minds trying to claim the theory does not produce fusion. From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:11 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:PhysOrg reports on Krivit's latest article... From Bergman Can somebody explain me how, it is likely a weak interaction involving neutrons, without fusion could possibly gain energy? And where do these neutrons come from? It looks like people are more skeptical on the claim 'cold fusion' than on the claim that 'abra-ca-dabra' can actually do something. What piqued my interest was reading the phrase ...a weak interaction involving neutrons, without fusion. Sure sounds like Widom-Larsen speak to me. My my my! What's going on under the bed sheets here? Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:PhysOrg reports on Krivit's latest article...
Krivit and other worshippers of Widom Larsen theory do not make any sense. The reaction is not a weak interaction, but a fusion reaction. The neutrons are supposed to be protons and electrons that become virtual neutrons. Basically, Widom Larsen worshippers want people to believe if a proton and electron put on a mask, they are no longer a proton and neutron. From: Bastiaan Bergman bastiaan.berg...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:PhysOrg reports on Krivit's latest article... Can somebody explain me how, it is likely a weak interaction involving neutrons, without fusion could possibly gain energy? And where do these neutrons come from? It looks like people are more skeptical on the claim 'cold fusion' than on the claim that 'abra-ca-dabra' can actually do something. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote: You can get the gist of it just by the hyperlink... http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-08-controversial-energy-generating-lacking-credibility-video.html -Mark
Re: [Vo]:PhysOrg reports on Krivit's latest article...
Inspired by Krivit's nonsense. Krivit has been out to try and discredit Rossi for a long time. He truly is a snake. From: Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:26 PM Subject: [Vo]:PhysOrg reports on Krivit's latest article... You can get the gist of it just by the hyperlink... http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-08-controversial-energy-generating-lacking-credibility-video.html -Mark
