Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread peter . heckert
. Worldwide attention would have been guaranteed, especially if then police and fire brigades come and stop the experiment. ;-) Peter - Original Nachricht Von: Colin Hercus colinher...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 03.11.2011 02:43 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread Colin Hercus
Von: Colin Hercus colinher...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 03.11.2011 02:43 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations Hi Peter, It could only be a vacuum if they were pumping the water out of the heat dissipater and they'd need a pretty good

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Colin Hercus colinher...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 03.11.2011 02:43 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations Hi Peter, It could only be a vacuum if they were pumping the water out of the heat

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread David Roberson
-Original Message- From: peter.heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:36 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations Yes this is true. t was a quick idea that I had during work and posted during work without much onsideration

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread David Roberson
the experiment. ;-) Peter - Original Nachricht Von: Colin Hercus colinher...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 03.11.2011 02:43 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations Hi Peter, It could only be a vacuum if they were pumping

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread Peter Heckert
:43 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations Hi Peter, It could only be a vacuum if they were pumping the water out of the heat dissipater and they'd need a pretty good pump to get a vacuum. Colin On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:17

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I think I know the reason why there is always a question in such a demonstration. No one has ever performed an experiment that has completely eliminated any optional explanation for the results obtained. On the other hand, some experiments are more

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.11.2011 18:25, schrieb Jed Rothwell: David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com mailto:dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I think I know the reason why there is always a question in such a demonstration. No one has ever performed an experiment that has completely eliminated any optional

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: He must allow to connect tested and calibrated calorimetric equipment provided by an independent party to the steam output of the ecat, and allow to connect professional instruments that record the electrical input power. Thats all. Then he must

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.11.2011 19:19, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: He must allow to connect tested and calibrated calorimetric equipment provided by an independent party to the steam output of the ecat, and allow to connect

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread David Roberson
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 2:55 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations Am 03.11.2011 19:19, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: He must allow to connect tested and calibrated calorimetric equipment

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.11.2011 20:07, schrieb David Roberson: Can you show proof that it is a scam? No. Rossi knows how much scammers are out there and are competing. He often complains about all these snakes that are paid by hostile and fraudulent competition. If he wants to be different then he must show

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: He must do this if he wants to do a scientific level proof of evidency. He has said countless times that he does not care what scientists think. He is only interested in what his customers think. That is a perfectly valid set of standards. Many

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread David Roberson
diameter October 28 - new considerations Am 03.11.2011 20:07, schrieb David Roberson: Can you show proof that it is a scam? No. Rossi knows how much scammers are out there and are competing. He often complains about all these snakes that are paid by hostile and fraudulent competition. If he

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread Peter Heckert
I hope Piantelli is like Conrad Roentgen. He worked for years in total secrecy and silency and did not tell a word to others. And then he presented a scientific work and experiments that gave total proof. Piantelli behaves like a real scientist until now. Lets hope for a surprise. He has

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Following up on Jed's comments: Conjecture that Rossi has been, in a sense, indirectly obfuscating some of his own results - as if to throw the bloodhounds off of his scent trail has been discussed to some extent within the Vort Collective. I suspect there is some merit to such conjecture. It's

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread David Roberson
peter.heck...@arcor.de To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 3:48 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations I hope Piantelli is like Conrad Roentgen. e worked for years in total secrecy and silency and did not tell a word o others. nd then he presented

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.11.2011 20:51, schrieb David Roberson: I am afraid we need an engineer instead of scientist. Engineers get the task completed in a manner that is acceptable for production, at least eventually. Think about this man at Fraunhofer (I dont remember his name) who invented MP3. He tried to

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread David Roberson
it will be accepted. Dave -Original Message- From: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 4:08 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations Am 03.11.2011 20:51, schrieb David Roberson: I am afraid we need

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.11.2011 21:14, schrieb David Roberson: Having the patent granted may not be such an important goal for him at this time. The longer he waits, the further into the future it extends. This reminds me of the submarine patents that come up far into the future when the most money is made.

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread David Roberson
. Beg, plead, cry, or anything else that feels right. He does what he thinks is best. Dave -Original Message- From: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 4:21 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations Am

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: I hope Piantelli is like Conrad Roentgen. He worked for years in total secrecy and silency and did not tell a word to others. And then he presented a scientific work and experiments that gave total proof. Piantelli

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-02 Thread David Roberson
I would have to say that I agree that it must be possible since the system is working. When all the questions have been answered, it will become clear that the ECAT is real. Let's proceed to make it a viable design. Dave -Original Message- From: peter.heckert

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-02 Thread Colin Hercus
Hi Peter, It could only be a vacuum if they were pumping the water out of the heat dissipater and they'd need a pretty good pump to get a vacuum. Colin On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:17 PM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Hi, I recalculated the pipe diameter needed for the 1MW plant. There is an