Re: [vos-d] More new S5 classes/concepts
Well, I had a look at Croquet before, and even though it seems to be called OpenCroquet now, I am still not impressed. Admittedly, they have some nice eye candy, and working portals. These can even display non-VR applications like web browsers and chess games, neat. Didn't we have that in S3 too? However, their networking model requires a sequencer or other time synchronization mechanism, even for bulk traffic like object movement. This inevitably becomes a bottleneck, so the system cannot handle large scale simulations (like Stephenson's Metaverse Street). Even SIMNET could do better than that. Regards, Karsten Otto (kao) ___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d
[vos-d] Updated Road Map on Wiki
Posted at: http://interreality.org/phorum/read.php?2,180,180#msg-180 reed wrote: I updated the Road Map page on the Wiki to reflect S5 plans. Pete, please correct it if it's a bit off. This is just a general guideline, we don't really know yet when the first S5 release will be, or whether it will be a 1.0 release or a beta or testing prerelease that is less easy to use. http://interreality.org/wiki/VosRoadMap Reed ___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d
Re: [vos-d] More new S5 classes/concepts
Croquet is very cool. I know Pete and I have been following it and reading about it since we started VOS. I don't know if its details have influenced our design much, but some the end goals and features are similar. A lot about it is not documented, as far as I can tell. It's all is Squeak, which can be an obstacle (both because of the language and because of the way some things must be done within the framework.) And it doesn't really come with much out of the box (though at this point, neither does Interreality). With networking, it was designed to support a few particular features, which are sort of unusual (originally meant for a LAN only, no internet; in a sense it's really a number of seperate single-user worlds, that can optionally synchronize). We've taken a more practical and direct approach I think. There is a commercial product based on it that appears to be fairly complete and work well (quaq.com). Reed ___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d
Re: [vos-d] Updated Road Map on Wiki
Also spracht reed (Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:35:40 -0500): I updated the Road Map page on the Wiki to reflect S5 plans. Pete, please correct it if it's a bit off. This is just a general guideline, we don't really know yet when the first S5 release will be, or whether it will be a 1.0 release or a beta or testing prerelease that is less easy to use. Cool! I think you're very much on spot on the grand total of features, but maybe I'd sort them differently :-) It's not up to me, but I'd do a more testing r1 (r0?) earlier, maybe as soon as spring. That would probably entail not having any networking, or access control, or chat, or persistence, or something else that would seem pretty essential; but it would allow interested people to play with the development model and tools, and even write content. On the other hand, some things that are in your r2 will be there in r1 in summer, or even r0 in spring, because I'm working on them ;-) for one, hypervos is already alive and kicking in the form of an Apache mod_vos; I'm busy adding useful tools to that box, and I intend to have a mod_vos powered site up by the end of February, maybe mid-March if work rears its head too much. And the first scripting language will be there a week after Peter adds marshaling (which language that will be depends greatly on my mood that week, though). best, Lalo Martins -- So many of our dreams at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we summon the will, they soon become inevitable. - http://lalomartins.info/ GNU: never give up freedom http://www.gnu.org/ ___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d
Re: [vos-d] Updated Road Map on Wiki
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 07:13:14PM +, Lalo Martins wrote: hypervos is already alive and kicking in the form of an Apache mod_vos; Ack! Why didn't you email the list! I've been adding stuff to S4 hypervos (and intend to port them to S5!) And I have many plans for further development (see HyperVosIdeas on the wiki) Tell me more about mod_vos. Reed ___ vos-d mailing list vos-d@interreality.org http://www.interreality.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vos-d
