Re: GREAT GAME EAGLES!

2018-05-21 Thread petercrisp
Thanks for that lot there Neil. I am pretty careful when doing things inside to the extent of paranoia. Double checking connections and generally fastidious attention to the detail of the task I'm doing - nevertheless still being human can mean errors on my part. I will try the 'attempt boot with

Re: GREAT GAME EAGLES!

2018-05-21 Thread Neil Houghton
Hi Pete, A few more thoughts  ;o) OK even though the first thoughts for fans OK but nothing else happens would tend to be a possible power supply or logic board failure – ie a hardware problem with the MBP is looking more likely, as you say you have not much to lose by trying a few long

Re: GREAT GAME EAGLES!

2018-05-21 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Peter Another thought. (Amazing that these occur when I am packing up for the night!) Any unusual software in the normal user startup list? Perhaps the MBP is still searching for the fan control app. System Preferences > Users and Groups > Login Items. Regards Alan > On 21 May 2018,

Re: GREAT GAME EAGLES!

2018-05-21 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Peter I’m butting in with two points: 1. This Apple Support document describes the start up sequence in some detail, it may help explain where your Mac is failing. https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204156 You seem to have a number of things (not) happening. My guess is that the failure

Re: GREAT GAME EAGLES!

2018-05-21 Thread Peter Crisp
Ok, following that test with a known prior running HDD, it is still the same, black screen and gradual fan run up to full speed. I have done a SMC reset (disconnect battery per instructions etc). NVRAM reset, attempt start in Safe mode. The one thing I have noted is there is no start up

Re: Security Update 2018-001

2018-05-21 Thread Michael Hawkins
Dear Ronni, Thank you for your reply. I do not remember deleting the folder I had which was called “Desktop Folders”, but all sorts of wierd and troubling things happened when I first tried to installl the security update and tried to update the operating system as well, a few weeks ago.

Re: GREAT GAME EAGLES!

2018-05-21 Thread Peter Crisp
Hi Neil and Ronni, I have run the test below to attempt the AHT and as I suspected the MBP wont even entertain it. Screen remains black and the cooling fan starts after about 15-20 seconds and slowly ramps up to full speed. It just remains with the fan running flat out and nothing else to

Re: TEST PLEASE IGNORE!

2018-05-21 Thread Daniel Kerr
Now I am going to ignore you,..because you’re shouting! :) lol just kidding. Sent from my iPhone 7 --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: Web: **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion

Re: GREAT GAME EAGLES!

2018-05-21 Thread Neil Houghton
Hi Peter, Just some thoughts. The fact that you can mount the HD on another computer does not necessarily mean that there will be no problems with it - or the system installed on it – but it does suggest that the HD is not the cause of the black screen/no life problem of the MBP. I do

Re: Security Update 2018-001

2018-05-21 Thread Ronni Brown
Hello Michael, I am still having trouble not receiving WAMUG mailing list messages, so I’ve copied & pasted your message below, so I can answer. Have you moved the original ‘Desktop Folders’ that you created? Have you deleted the original ‘Desktop Folders’? The Dock just holds aliases to real