Re: Search engine!

[Stephen Chape]

K

> On 15 May 2018, at 4:30 pm, Peter Faulks  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Steve
> 
> 
> No I just pasted in Duck Duck as a sample, then change everything back
> 
>> I notice your Default Search Engine is Yahoo.
>> Yet your Homepage is set to Duck Duck.
>> 
>> Does that seem contradictory ?
>> 
>>> On 13 May 2018, at 2:02 pm, Peter Faulks >> <mailto:peterfau...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Copy the URL fro Duck Duck Go
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://duckduckgo.com/ <https://duckduckgo.com/>
>>> Then in safari Preferences change to setting to Homepage 
>>> https://duckduckgo.com/ <https://duckduckgo.com/>
>>>> I have just discovered that my choice of search engine has been corrupted: 
>>>> I was using Duck Duck Go. And now I discover that it has been 
>>>> surreptitiously replaced by Bing and I haven't been able to change it 
>>>> back.  I don't like this at all!  Who  made this decision? No one asked my 
>>>> permission. And why can't I change back?
>>>> 
>>>> Grrr!
>>>> Pat
>>>> Mac Pro, running OS 10.13.4
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Re: Search engine!

[Peter Faulks]

Hello Steve



No I just pasted in Duck Duck as a sample, then change everything back


I notice your Default Search Engine is Yahoo.
Yet your Homepage is set to Duck Duck.

Does that seem contradictory ?


On 13 May 2018, at 2:02 pm, Peter Faulks 
<<mailto:peterfau...@westnet.com.au>peterfau...@westnet.com.au> 
wrote:



Copy the URL fro Duck Duck Go




<https://duckduckgo.com/>https://duckduckgo.com/

Then in safari Preferences change to setting to 
Homepage <https://duckduckgo.com/>https://duckduckgo.com/


I have just discovered that my choice of search engine has been 
corrupted: I was using Duck Duck Go. And now I discover that it 
has been surreptitiously replaced by Bing and I haven't been able 
to change it back.  I don't like this at all!  Who  made this 
decision? No one asked my permission. And why can't I change back?


Grrr!
Pat
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Re: Search engine!

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Pat

I would try the MalwareByte’s scan as others have mentioned. Worth a look just 
to rule it out.
When you click on “Search”  in your screen shot, what do you have showing 
there? You should have a drop down list there.
What actually happens when you click on it, where it most likely shows Bing, 
and you try and choose “Google”. (as attached).


With the other drop down menu, you need to have a blank page, or new tab 
showing, so nothing is written there, then click just beside the magnifying 
glass (or should be able to ( like attached below).


It should then show either of the drop down list to choose “Google”.

You could also check Extensions in Safari, incase you have something installed 
there as well. (Safari - Preferences - Extensions).

But I’d try the AntiMalware scan first - https://www.malwarebytes.com/mac/

Kind regards
Daniel

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> On 14 May 2018, at 10:37 am, Pat  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Daniel,
> 
> Thanks for your reply, but I still haven’t been able to change away from the 
> pernicious Bing. Clicking on the magnifying glass does nothing. On the Safari 
> Preferences Search tab, trying to change Bing to anything else is futile.  I 
> attach a screen shot of the Safari General Preference tab.  It differs from 
> the screen shot that Peter Faulks sent (thanks, Peter) in that my list does 
> not contain a Default search engine. I am convinced that these changes are 
> the result of the Security 2018-001 update. I have to say I was puzzled by 
> the 2018-001 number because it is already May and there must have been 
> previous security updates, or is that wrong?
> 
> Cheers,
> Pat
> 
> 
> 
>> On 13 May 2018, at 12:48, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>> 
>> Another way to also change it. When you have a “blank” page open (and you 
>> can see the line “Search or enter website name”, if you click on the search 
>> magnifying glass thing to the left of this, you’ll get a drop down menu. You 
>> can change here.
>> Otherwise it’s Safari menu - Preferences - Search.
>> “Search engine”. Then choose from the drop down menu you want.
>> 
>> Some times websites will change the search for you (or ask you if you want 
>> to go to this page, without you realising it’s meaning it’s going to change 
>> it.
>> And some software can also ask if you want to change it as well, as part of 
>> the install of the software. Malware can also do it as well sometimes - 
>> though normally won’t change it to Bing, it will change it some other weird 
>> search engine or “tracking” website.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>> 
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: 
>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>> 
>>>> On 13 May 2018, at 11:14 am, Pat  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have just discovered that my choice of search engine has been corrupted: 
>>>> I was using Duck Duck Go. And now I discover that it has been 
>>>> surreptitiously replaced by Bing and I haven’t been able to change it 
>>>> back.  I don’t like this at all!  Who  made this decision? No one asked my 
>>>> permission. And why can’t I change back?
>>>> 
>>>> Grrr!
>>>> Pat
>>>> Mac Pro, running OS 10.13.4
>> 
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Re: Search engine!

[Ronda Brown]

I meant to also add that security update 2018-001 is the latest and correct 
update!
The number does not relate to the date it was released April 24, 2018

>> I have to say I was puzzled by the 2018-001 number because it is already May 
>> and there must have been previous security updates, or is that wrong?

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 14 May 2018, at 4:53 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pat,
> 
> You might have installed some malware as Alan has suggested. Especially if 
> you haven’t got Firewall turned ON in your System Preferences > Security & 
> Privacy > Firewall.
> 
> 
> Go here: https://www.malwarebytes.com/pricing/?
> and download the Mac ‘Free’ version - by click on ‘DOWNLOAD NOW’
> 
> You can download the "Malwarebytes-For-Mac-User-Guide.pdf” here: 
> https://support.malwarebytes.com/docs/DOC-1883
> 
> 1. Install Malwarebytes.app version 3.3 then run a Scan by click on - 
> StartScan (which initiates a Threat Scan).
> 2. Let us know the results please.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4
> 
>> On 14 May 2018, at 11:13 am, Alan Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Pat
>> 
>> The “genieo” malware from a few years back gave similar symptoms.  Other 
>> more knowledgeable members could perhaps give guidance on detecting and 
>> removing malware.  Perhaps worth following up.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Alan
>> 
>>> On 14 May 2018, at 10:37 am, Pat  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Daniel,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your reply, but I still haven’t been able to change away from 
>>> the pernicious Bing. Clicking on the magnifying glass does nothing. On the 
>>> Safari Preferences Search tab, trying to change Bing to anything else is 
>>> futile.  I attach a screen shot of the Safari General Preference tab.  It 
>>> differs from the screen shot that Peter Faulks sent (thanks, Peter) in that 
>>> my list does not contain a Default search engine. I am convinced that these 
>>> changes are the result of the Security 2018-001 update. I have to say I was 
>>> puzzled by the 2018-001 number because it is already May and there must 
>>> have been previous security updates, or is that wrong?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Pat
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 13 May 2018, at 12:48, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Another way to also change it. When you have a “blank” page open (and you 
>>>> can see the line “Search or enter website name”, if you click on the 
>>>> search magnifying glass thing to the left of this, you’ll get a drop down 
>>>> menu. You can change here.
>>>> Otherwise it’s Safari menu - Preferences - Search.
>>>> “Search engine”. Then choose from the drop down menu you want.
>>>> 
>>>> Some times websites will change the search for you (or ask you if you want 
>>>> to go to this page, without you realising it’s meaning it’s going to 
>>>> change it.
>>>> And some software can also ask if you want to change it as well, as part 
>>>> of the install of the software. Malware can also do it as well sometimes - 
>>>> though normally won’t change it to Bing, it will change it some other 
>>>> weird search engine or “tracking” website.
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Daniel
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> Daniel Kerr
>>>> MacWizardry
>>>> 
>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>>> Email: 
>>>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 13 May 2018, at 11:14 am, Pat  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have just discovered that my choice of search engine has been 
>>>>>> corrupted: I was using Duck Duck Go. And now I discover that it has been 
>>>>>> surreptitiously replaced by Bing and I haven’t been able to change it 
>>>>>> back.  I don’t like this at all!  Who  made this decision? No one asked 
>>>>>> my permission. And why can’t I change back?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Grrr!
>>>>>> Pat
>>>>>> Mac Pro, running OS 10.13.4
> 
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Re: Search engine!

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Pat,

You might have installed some malware as Alan has suggested. Especially if you 
haven’t got Firewall turned ON in your System Preferences > Security & Privacy 
> Firewall.


Go here: https://www.malwarebytes.com/pricing/? 
<https://www.malwarebytes.com/pricing/?>
and download the Mac ‘Free’ version - by click on ‘DOWNLOAD NOW’

You can download the "Malwarebytes-For-Mac-User-Guide.pdf” here: 
https://support.malwarebytes.com/docs/DOC-1883 
<https://support.malwarebytes.com/docs/DOC-1883>

1. Install Malwarebytes.app version 3.3 then run a Scan by click on - StartScan 
(which initiates a Threat Scan).
2. Let us know the results please.

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

macOS High Sierra 10.13.4

> On 14 May 2018, at 11:13 am, Alan Smith  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pat
> 
> The “genieo” malware from a few years back gave similar symptoms.  Other more 
> knowledgeable members could perhaps give guidance on detecting and removing 
> malware.  Perhaps worth following up.
> 
> Cheers
> Alan
> 
>> On 14 May 2018, at 10:37 am, Pat > <mailto:clamsh...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Daniel,
>> 
>> Thanks for your reply, but I still haven’t been able to change away from the 
>> pernicious Bing. Clicking on the magnifying glass does nothing. On the 
>> Safari Preferences Search tab, trying to change Bing to anything else is 
>> futile.  I attach a screen shot of the Safari General Preference tab.  It 
>> differs from the screen shot that Peter Faulks sent (thanks, Peter) in that 
>> my list does not contain a Default search engine. I am convinced that these 
>> changes are the result of the Security 2018-001 update. I have to say I was 
>> puzzled by the 2018-001 number because it is already May and there must have 
>> been previous security updates, or is that wrong?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Pat
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13 May 2018, at 12:48, Daniel Kerr >> <mailto:wa...@macwizardry.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Another way to also change it. When you have a “blank” page open (and you 
>>> can see the line “Search or enter website name”, if you click on the search 
>>> magnifying glass thing to the left of this, you’ll get a drop down menu. 
>>> You can change here.
>>> Otherwise it’s Safari menu - Preferences - Search.
>>> “Search engine”. Then choose from the drop down menu you want.
>>> 
>>> Some times websites will change the search for you (or ask you if you want 
>>> to go to this page, without you realising it’s meaning it’s going to change 
>>> it.
>>> And some software can also ask if you want to change it as well, as part of 
>>> the install of the software. Malware can also do it as well sometimes - 
>>> though normally won’t change it to Bing, it will change it some other weird 
>>> search engine or “tracking” website.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Daniel Kerr
>>> MacWizardry
>>> 
>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>> Email: http://macwizardry.com.au/>>
>>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au <http://www.macwizardry.com.au/>>
>>> 
>>>>> On 13 May 2018, at 11:14 am, Pat >>>> <mailto:clamsh...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have just discovered that my choice of search engine has been 
>>>>> corrupted: I was using Duck Duck Go. And now I discover that it has been 
>>>>> surreptitiously replaced by Bing and I haven’t been able to change it 
>>>>> back.  I don’t like this at all!  Who  made this decision? No one asked 
>>>>> my permission. And why can’t I change back?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Grrr!
>>>>> Pat
>>>>> Mac Pro, running OS 10.13.4


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Re: Search engine!

[Alan Smith]

Hi Pat

The “genieo” malware from a few years back gave similar symptoms.  Other more 
knowledgeable members could perhaps give guidance on detecting and removing 
malware.  Perhaps worth following up.

Cheers
Alan

> On 14 May 2018, at 10:37 am, Pat  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Daniel,
> 
> Thanks for your reply, but I still haven’t been able to change away from the 
> pernicious Bing. Clicking on the magnifying glass does nothing. On the Safari 
> Preferences Search tab, trying to change Bing to anything else is futile.  I 
> attach a screen shot of the Safari General Preference tab.  It differs from 
> the screen shot that Peter Faulks sent (thanks, Peter) in that my list does 
> not contain a Default search engine. I am convinced that these changes are 
> the result of the Security 2018-001 update. I have to say I was puzzled by 
> the 2018-001 number because it is already May and there must have been 
> previous security updates, or is that wrong?
> 
> Cheers,
> Pat
> 
> 
> 
>> On 13 May 2018, at 12:48, Daniel Kerr > <mailto:wa...@macwizardry.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Another way to also change it. When you have a “blank” page open (and you 
>> can see the line “Search or enter website name”, if you click on the search 
>> magnifying glass thing to the left of this, you’ll get a drop down menu. You 
>> can change here.
>> Otherwise it’s Safari menu - Preferences - Search.
>> “Search engine”. Then choose from the drop down menu you want.
>> 
>> Some times websites will change the search for you (or ask you if you want 
>> to go to this page, without you realising it’s meaning it’s going to change 
>> it.
>> And some software can also ask if you want to change it as well, as part of 
>> the install of the software. Malware can also do it as well sometimes - 
>> though normally won’t change it to Bing, it will change it some other weird 
>> search engine or “tracking” website.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>> 
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: http://macwizardry.com.au/>>
>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au <http://www.macwizardry.com.au/>>
>> 
>>>> On 13 May 2018, at 11:14 am, Pat >>> <mailto:clamsh...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have just discovered that my choice of search engine has been corrupted: 
>>>> I was using Duck Duck Go. And now I discover that it has been 
>>>> surreptitiously replaced by Bing and I haven’t been able to change it 
>>>> back.  I don’t like this at all!  Who  made this decision? No one asked my 
>>>> permission. And why can’t I change back?
>>>> 
>>>> Grrr!
>>>> Pat
>>>> Mac Pro, running OS 10.13.4
>> 
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Re: Search engine!

[Pat]

Hi, Daniel,

Thanks for your reply, but I still haven’t been able to change away from the 
pernicious Bing. Clicking on the magnifying glass does nothing. On the Safari 
Preferences Search tab, trying to change Bing to anything else is futile.  I 
attach a screen shot of the Safari General Preference tab.  It differs from the 
screen shot that Peter Faulks sent (thanks, Peter) in that my list does not 
contain a Default search engine. I am convinced that these changes are the 
result of the Security 2018-001 update. I have to say I was puzzled by the 
2018-001 number because it is already May and there must have been previous 
security updates, or is that wrong?

Cheers,
Pat



> On 13 May 2018, at 12:48, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Another way to also change it. When you have a “blank” page open (and you can 
> see the line “Search or enter website name”, if you click on the search 
> magnifying glass thing to the left of this, you’ll get a drop down menu. You 
> can change here.
> Otherwise it’s Safari menu - Preferences - Search.
> “Search engine”. Then choose from the drop down menu you want.
> 
> Some times websites will change the search for you (or ask you if you want to 
> go to this page, without you realising it’s meaning it’s going to change it.
> And some software can also ask if you want to change it as well, as part of 
> the install of the software. Malware can also do it as well sometimes - 
> though normally won’t change it to Bing, it will change it some other weird 
> search engine or “tracking” website.
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
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>>> On 13 May 2018, at 11:14 am, Pat  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have just discovered that my choice of search engine has been corrupted: 
>>> I was using Duck Duck Go. And now I discover that it has been 
>>> surreptitiously replaced by Bing and I haven’t been able to change it back. 
>>>  I don’t like this at all!  Who  made this decision? No one asked my 
>>> permission. And why can’t I change back?
>>> 
>>> Grrr!
>>> Pat
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Re: Search engine!

[Stephen Chape]

Hi Peter.
I notice your Default Search Engine is Yahoo.
Yet your Homepage is set to Duck Duck.

Does that seem contradictory ?

> On 13 May 2018, at 2:02 pm, Peter Faulks  wrote:
> 
>> Copy the URL fro Duck Duck Go
> 
> 
> https://duckduckgo.com/ <https://duckduckgo.com/>
> 
> Then in safari Preferences change to setting to Homepage 
> https://duckduckgo.com/ <https://duckduckgo.com/>
> 
>> I have just discovered that my choice of search engine has been corrupted: I 
>> was using Duck Duck Go. And now I discover that it has been surreptitiously 
>> replaced by Bing and I haven't been able to change it back.  I don't like 
>> this at all!  Who  made this decision? No one asked my permission. And why 
>> can't I change back?
>> 
>> Grrr!
>> Pat
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Re: Search engine!

[Peter Faulks]

Copy the URL fro Duck Duck Go



https://duckduckgo.com/

Then in safari Preferences change to setting to Homepage 
https://duckduckgo.com/


I have just discovered that my choice of search engine has been 
corrupted: I was using Duck Duck Go. And now I discover that it has 
been surreptitiously replaced by Bing and I haven't been able to 
change it back.  I don't like this at all!  Who  made this decision? 
No one asked my permission. And why can't I change back?


Grrr!
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Re: Search engine!

[Pat]

Hi, Daniel and others who responded,

I wish it was this easy. Those ‘remedies’ were the first things I tried to do, 
but, Bing just doesn’t go away. Looking at the Websites tab of Safari 
preferences it appears that you can turn Bing off and turn on the preferred 
browser, but that doesn’t work either. 

This change obviously came with  Security Update 2018-001 I installed last 
night. Working through the list, if I turned on DuckDuckGo, the warning icons 
appear and say it isn’t secure enough, and the same warning comes up with other 
choices and only Bing is left.

Probably most other members have installed this already — are they stuck with 
Bing also?

Thanks,
Pat 


> On 13 May 2018, at 12:48, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Another way to also change it. When you have a “blank” page open (and you can 
> see the line “Search or enter website name”, if you click on the search 
> magnifying glass thing to the left of this, you’ll get a drop down menu. You 
> can change here.
> Otherwise it’s Safari menu - Preferences - Search.
> “Search engine”. Then choose from the drop down menu you want.
> 
> Some times websites will change the search for you (or ask you if you want to 
> go to this page, without you realising it’s meaning it’s going to change it.
> And some software can also ask if you want to change it as well, as part of 
> the install of the software. Malware can also do it as well sometimes - 
> though normally won’t change it to Bing, it will change it some other weird 
> search engine or “tracking” website.
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
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>> On 13 May 2018, at 12:34 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Pat.
>> 
>> Go to Safari/Preferences/HomePage
>> Then type in the URL you want.
>> 
>>> On 13 May 2018, at 11:14 am, Pat  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have just discovered that my choice of search engine has been corrupted: 
>>> I was using Duck Duck Go. And now I discover that it has been 
>>> surreptitiously replaced by Bing and I haven’t been able to change it back. 
>>>  I don’t like this at all!  Who  made this decision? No one asked my 
>>> permission. And why can’t I change back?
>>> 
>>> Grrr!
>>> Pat
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Re: Search engine!

[Daniel Kerr]

Another way to also change it. When you have a “blank” page open (and you can 
see the line “Search or enter website name”, if you click on the search 
magnifying glass thing to the left of this, you’ll get a drop down menu. You 
can change here.
Otherwise it’s Safari menu - Preferences - Search.
“Search engine”. Then choose from the drop down menu you want.

Some times websites will change the search for you (or ask you if you want to 
go to this page, without you realising it’s meaning it’s going to change it.
And some software can also ask if you want to change it as well, as part of the 
install of the software. Malware can also do it as well sometimes - though 
normally won’t change it to Bing, it will change it some other weird search 
engine or “tracking” website.

Kind regards
Daniel

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> On 13 May 2018, at 12:34 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pat.
> 
> Go to Safari/Preferences/HomePage
> Then type in the URL you want.
> 
>> On 13 May 2018, at 11:14 am, Pat  wrote:
>> 
>> I have just discovered that my choice of search engine has been corrupted: I 
>> was using Duck Duck Go. And now I discover that it has been surreptitiously 
>> replaced by Bing and I haven’t been able to change it back.  I don’t like 
>> this at all!  Who  made this decision? No one asked my permission. And why 
>> can’t I change back?
>> 
>> Grrr!
>> Pat
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Re: Search engine!

[Stephen Chape]

Hi Pat.

Go to Safari/Preferences/HomePage
Then type in the URL you want.

> On 13 May 2018, at 11:14 am, Pat  wrote:
> 
> I have just discovered that my choice of search engine has been corrupted: I 
> was using Duck Duck Go. And now I discover that it has been surreptitiously 
> replaced by Bing and I haven’t been able to change it back.  I don’t like 
> this at all!  Who  made this decision? No one asked my permission. And why 
> can’t I change back?
> 
> Grrr!
> Pat
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Re: Search engine!

[Tim Law]

If you’re using Safari, go to Safari Preferences, Click on the Search icon, in 
the first line it says Search Engine and mine shows four choices.

If you can’t change it there, someone cleverer will tell you how to clear the 
preferences. Or maybe there is a way to reset Safari to standard. 

Tim




> On 13 May 2018, at 11:14 am, Pat  wrote:
> 
> I have just discovered that my choice of search engine has been corrupted: I 
> was using Duck Duck Go. And now I discover that it has been surreptitiously 
> replaced by Bing and I haven’t been able to change it back.  I don’t like 
> this at all!  Who  made this decision? No one asked my permission. And why 
> can’t I change back?
> 
> Grrr!
> Pat
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Search engine!

[Pat]

I have just discovered that my choice of search engine has been corrupted: I 
was using Duck Duck Go. And now I discover that it has been surreptitiously 
replaced by Bing and I haven’t been able to change it back.  I don’t like this 
at all!  Who  made this decision? No one asked my permission. And why can’t I 
change back?

Grrr!
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Re: New search engine site

[Richard Anderson]

I found problems.

1. No side scroll or other way of movong down each page, so only got  
part o the results.


2. Seemed to be a lot of duplication.

3. The one limk that seemed to be of value was dead - failed to open  
page.


Dick Anderson


On 29/07/2008, at 8:15 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

After the reading the article in The West Australian this morning I  
decided to visit http://www.cuil.com and try it out for myself. Not  
bad. Among the creators of Cuil is Anna Patterson, who was the  
technical lead of one of the two Web ranking groups at Google. A  
couple of other former Google engineers are involved as well. You  
can fin out more at .


What do others think? Should Google be worried?


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Re: New search engine site

[James / Hans Kunz]

there was actually a report on newsradio "am585 perth" about the new  
search engine, it confirmed what some of you said, difficult to get a  
response because of overload did anyone tried a foreign  
language search??
no need for google to worry, google is in fields others can't go  
(google earth & more)

James
On 29/07/2008, at 13:16, Wendy S. Austin wrote:

I tried it yesterday and twice it came up with 0 results whereas  
Google came up with what I wanted.


Wendy


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Re: New search engine site

[Wendy S. Austin]

I tried it yesterday and twice it came up with 0 results whereas  
Google came up with what I wanted.


Wendy


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Re: New search engine site

[Ronda Brown]

On 29/07/2008, at 8:15 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

After the reading the article in The West Australian this morning I  
decided to visit http://www.cuil.com and try it out for myself. Not  
bad. Among the creators of Cuil is Anna Patterson, who was the  
technical lead of one of the two Web ranking groups at Google. A  
couple of other former Google engineers are involved as well. You  
can fin out more at .


What do others think? Should Google be worried?


People must be hitting this site pretty hard Peter.
I just gave it a try and my search came back with this result ;-)

"No results because of high load...
Due to excessive load, our servers didn't return results. Please try  
your search again."


Cheers,

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Re: New search engine site

[Eugene]

Hi Peter,

no Google doesn't have to be worried yet.

Did a search on the same obscure topic and Cuil came back with 3 hits  
whilst Google cam back with 110 hits. I think Google is safe for a  
little while.


  Regards,
  Eugene


On 29/07/2008, at 8:15 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

After the reading the article in The West Australian this morning I  
decided to visit http://www.cuil.com and try it out for myself. Not  
bad. Among the creators of Cuil is Anna Patterson, who was the  
technical lead of one of the two Web ranking groups at Google. A  
couple of other former Google engineers are involved as well. You  
can fin out more at .


What do others think? Should Google be worried?


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New search engine site

[Peter Hinchliffe]

After the reading the article in The West Australian this morning I  
decided to visit http://www.cuil.com and try it out for myself. Not  
bad. Among the creators of Cuil is Anna Patterson, who was the  
technical lead of one of the two Web ranking groups at Google. A  
couple of other former Google engineers are involved as well. You can  
fin out more at .


What do others think? Should Google be worried?


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Re: Search Engine Software

[Alexia Langley]

In my opinion the best thing to do is to do it manually yourself, then track
the results.  The main ones you want to get into are Google, MSN, Yahoo
really - are you just submitting for the sake of submitting or do you
actually want to rank well and generate traffic?

Most of these programmes that do mass submissions submit to hundreds of
irrelevant link farms which big engines like Google look down on, and all
you get out if it is a LOT of SPAM (when was the last time you looked on
some generic link farm for any useful information?)

Hope this helps... 




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> Hi,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone has experience with any of the programmes
> that are supposed to add web sites to search engines.
> 
> I'm looking for a simple programme that will give me good results, and
> was wondering if anyone can recommend anything, or tell me of
> programmes to avoid at the same time!
> 
> Thanks,
> Kelly
> 

Search Engine Software

[Kelly Duffy]

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has experience with any of the programmes
that are supposed to add web sites to search engines.

I'm looking for a simple programme that will give me good results, and
was wondering if anyone can recommend anything, or tell me of
programmes to avoid at the same time!

Thanks,
Kelly


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Sherlock 2 .... Search Engine List Upgrade

[John Weekes]

Hi All

The answer to this one is probably terribly simple & known to 
everyone else but me !!


Although these days I use Google for searches, I was wondering if the 
internet  search engine list in Sherlock 2 can be updated from any 
source.


My computer (and Sherlock) are about 4 years old and I'm sure many of 
the search engines on the list no longer exist.   Plus  Google and 
Yahoo are not listed.


Thanks in advance for any advice.

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Re: Aussie search engine whups

[Dave Choy]

Whups. Just tried Anzwers it has been taken over by Yahoo anyway! 
My mistake.

Dave

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> Date: Tue Dec 17, 2002 4:01:53 PM Australia/Perth
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Aussie search engine
>
> My alltime favourite Aussie search engine is :
>
> 
>
> uses yahoo as the search engine i think, but only looks up aussie 
> stuff (unless you ask it to look up world stuff!). Pretty good even 
> for searching for stockists of products etc.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave
>
> On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 03:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:48:11 +0800
>> From: "Robert Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Australian search engines?
>>
>> Can anyone suggest any good Australian search engines? The equivalent 
>> of
>> google?
>>
>> Many thanks for everyones time.
>>
>>
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> bricks tied to its head.
>
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Re: Aussie search engine

[Dave Choy]

My alltime favourite Aussie search engine is :



uses yahoo as the search engine i think, but only looks up aussie stuff 
(unless you ask it to look up world stuff!). Pretty good even for 
searching for stockists of products etc.

Regards,

Dave

On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 03:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:48:11 +0800
> From: "Robert Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Australian search engines?
>
> Can anyone suggest any good Australian search engines? The equivalent 
> of
> google?
>
> Many thanks for everyones time.
>
>
--
A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without 
bricks tied to its head.


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FW: email address search engine, or directory.

[Sojourn]

You could try my Australian e-mail searches
http://library.trinity.wa.edu.au/library/austemail.htm
Where there are a number of links (although the sofcom one seems to have
died!) I need to fix that.

Rosemary Horton



On 16/12/02 16:52, "Bob Howells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> Well I give in ! HELP !
> 
> Does anybody know of an EMAIl search engine for Australia, please !?
> 
> 
> TIA
> 
> Bob
> 
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email address search engine, or directory.

[Bob Howells]

Hi,

Well I give in ! HELP !

Does anybody know of an EMAIl search engine for Australia, please !?


TIA

Bob