Re: Mac getting forgetful

2013-09-01 Thread Peter Hinchliffe

On 30/08/2013, at 4:28 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 I have been following Ronni's suggestion that I close applications with 
 Command Option Q (haven't had any more episodes of 'forgetfulness' by the 
 Mac). I just wanted to mention that there are a few applications that do not 
 respond to that command, namely iTunes and Photoshop CS6. Just another 
 oddity, I guess.
 
 Thanks for the help!
 Pat
 


It really depends on whether or not an application can create documents or not, 
or more precisely, multiple windows. Th rules can appear to be a little 
inconsistent sometimes, but this the general rule. 

Note that Cmd-Option-Q means Quit and close all windows, whereas the simpler 
Cmd-Q quits the application, but any open windows are remembered, and opened 
automatically the next time you run the application. It's also important to 
understand that all of this only applies to Lion (Max OS X 10.7) and later. In 
previous versions, quitting an application automatically closed all open 
windows.

iTunes and others such as Preview, System Preferences, etc, do not support the 
opening of multiple windows, so Cmd-Option-Q is not an option. Just use Cmd-Q. 

Photoshop (and other Adobe fare), along with products from Microsoft, lives in 
its own world, so many things that work in standard Mac OS X software do not 
necessarily apply.  

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Re: Mac getting forgetful

2013-08-30 Thread Pat
I have been following Ronni's suggestion that I close applications with Command 
Option Q (haven't had any more episodes of 'forgetfulness' by the Mac). I just 
wanted to mention that there are a few applications that do not respond to that 
command, namely iTunes and Photoshop CS6. Just another oddity, I guess.

Thanks for the help!
Pat


On 18/08/2013, at 2:22 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 This is definitely my last email... I just read your email again :(
 check in System Preferences  Users  Groups - Login Items 
 If you have any Applications showing there that you don't want to open 
 automatically when you log in ... 
 1. Select the name of the item you want to prevent from opening at login 
 2. Click Delete (-) below the list on the right.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:10 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Sorry Pat, I am trying to do too many things at once :(
 
 Also in System preferences  General check - Recent Items:  Documents, Apps, 
 and Servers
 do you have a number selected?
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pat,
 
 Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
 
 Check in System Preferences  General - do you have selected Close windows 
 when quitting an Application?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, 
 I systematically close every open application. The last few months, when I 
 start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
 applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
 
 Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I 
 do not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
 
 Pat
 
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

2013-08-30 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Pat,

Not all Applications will respond to the same keyboard shortcut commands.

For example; iTunes 11  iPhoto will NOT respond to Command-Option-Q to Quit, 
they only will respond to Command-Q.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 30/08/2013, at 4:28 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 I have been following Ronni's suggestion that I close applications with 
 Command Option Q (haven't had any more episodes of 'forgetfulness' by the 
 Mac). I just wanted to mention that there are a few applications that do not 
 respond to that command, namely iTunes and Photoshop CS6. Just another 
 oddity, I guess.
 
 Thanks for the help!
 Pat
 
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:22 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 This is definitely my last email... I just read your email again :(
 check in System Preferences  Users  Groups - Login Items 
 If you have any Applications showing there that you don't want to open 
 automatically when you log in ... 
 1. Select the name of the item you want to prevent from opening at login 
 2. Click Delete (-) below the list on the right.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:10 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Sorry Pat, I am trying to do too many things at once :(
 
 Also in System preferences  General check - Recent Items:  Documents, 
 Apps, and Servers
 do you have a number selected?
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pat,
 
 Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
 
 Check in System Preferences  General - do you have selected Close 
 windows when quitting an Application?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, 
 I systematically close every open application. The last few months, when 
 I start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
 applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
 
 Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I 
 do not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
 
 Pat
 
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

2013-08-20 Thread Pat
Hi, Ronni,

When closing down last night, I looked for the checkmark, but the box was not 
ticked. 

I guess I will just have to live with it. So far, it is just a little bit 
annoying, but apparently not potentially calamitous. So, thank you very much, 
Ronni and Daniel.

Cheers,
Pat


On 18/08/2013, at 5:57 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Pat,
 
 Hmmm, weird.
 
 Try this: Click on the Apple Logo and hit Restart - take the checkmark OFF 
 Reopen windows when logging back in... Then click the Shutdown button.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 5:11 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi, Ronni,
 
 I usually do Command Q to quit an application, or sometimes right-clicking 
 the Dock icon and choosing 'Quit'. And I always cast an eye over the Dock 
 icons to be sure there are no longer any little white dots underneath.
 
 In System Preferences, there are no Login items in Users  Groups.
 
 In General, the box is ticked for Close windows when quitting an Application 
 and
 the Recent items  is set at 10.
 
 Thanks for your reply.
 Pat
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

2013-08-20 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Pat,

Last thing to try:
Before shutting down your Mac.
Instead of 'Command-Q' to quit an Application (which just Quits the App); 
Click 'Command-Option-Q' - This will Quit  Close all Windows in the 
Application.

See if that helps.
Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 18/08/2013, at 5:11 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi, Ronni,
 
 I usually do Command Q to quit an application, or sometimes right-clicking 
 the Dock icon and choosing 'Quit'. And I always cast an eye over the Dock 
 icons to be sure there are no longer any little white dots underneath.
 
 In System Preferences, there are no Login items in Users  Groups.
 
 In General, the box is ticked for Close windows when quitting an Application 
 and
 the Recent items  is set at 10.
 
 Thanks for your reply.
 Pat
 
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:22 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 This is definitely my last email... I just read your email again :(
 check in System Preferences  Users  Groups - Login Items 
 If you have any Applications showing there that you don't want to open 
 automatically when you log in ... 
 1. Select the name of the item you want to prevent from opening at login 
 2. Click Delete (-) below the list on the right.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:10 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Sorry Pat, I am trying to do too many things at once :(
 
 Also in System preferences  General check - Recent Items:  Documents, 
 Apps, and Servers
 do you have a number selected?
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pat,
 
 Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
 
 Check in System Preferences  General - do you have selected Close 
 windows when quitting an Application?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, 
 I systematically close every open application. The last few months, when 
 I start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
 applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
 
 Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I 
 do not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
 
 Pat
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

2013-08-18 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Pat,

Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?

Check in System Preferences  General - do you have selected Close windows 
when quitting an Application?

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, I 
 systematically close every open application. The last few months, when I 
 start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
 applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
 
 Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I do 
 not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
 
 Pat
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

2013-08-18 Thread Kevin Lock
I have a small application named Quit all apps'.   Works well and it's 
free!.

Kev




On 18/08/13 4:03 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 Hi Pat,

 Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?

 Check in System Preferences  General - do you have selected Close windows 
 when quitting an Application?

 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, I 
 systematically close every open application. The last few months, when I 
 start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
 applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.

 Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I do 
 not have any items in the Startupitems folder.

 Pat
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

2013-08-18 Thread Ronda Brown
Sorry Pat, I am trying to do too many things at once :(

Also in System preferences  General check - Recent Items:  Documents, Apps, 
and Servers
do you have a number selected?

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 18/08/2013, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Pat,
 
 Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
 
 Check in System Preferences  General - do you have selected Close windows 
 when quitting an Application?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, I 
 systematically close every open application. The last few months, when I 
 start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
 applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
 
 Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I do 
 not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
 
 Pat
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

2013-08-18 Thread Ronda Brown
This is definitely my last email... I just read your email again :(
check in System Preferences  Users  Groups - Login Items 
If you have any Applications showing there that you don't want to open 
automatically when you log in ... 
1. Select the name of the item you want to prevent from opening at login 
2. Click Delete (-) below the list on the right.

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 18/08/2013, at 2:10 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Sorry Pat, I am trying to do too many things at once :(
 
 Also in System preferences  General check - Recent Items:  Documents, Apps, 
 and Servers
 do you have a number selected?
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pat,
 
 Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
 
 Check in System Preferences  General - do you have selected Close windows 
 when quitting an Application?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, I 
 systematically close every open application. The last few months, when I 
 start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
 applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
 
 Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I do 
 not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
 
 Pat
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

2013-08-18 Thread Pat
Hi, Ronni,

I usually do Command Q to quit an application, or sometimes right-clicking the 
Dock icon and choosing 'Quit'. And I always cast an eye over the Dock icons to 
be sure there are no longer any little white dots underneath.

In System Preferences, there are no Login items in Users  Groups.

In General, the box is ticked for Close windows when quitting an Application and
the Recent items  is set at 10.

Thanks for your reply.
Pat


On 18/08/2013, at 2:22 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 This is definitely my last email... I just read your email again :(
 check in System Preferences  Users  Groups - Login Items 
 If you have any Applications showing there that you don't want to open 
 automatically when you log in ... 
 1. Select the name of the item you want to prevent from opening at login 
 2. Click Delete (-) below the list on the right.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:10 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Sorry Pat, I am trying to do too many things at once :(
 
 Also in System preferences  General check - Recent Items:  Documents, Apps, 
 and Servers
 do you have a number selected?
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pat,
 
 Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
 
 Check in System Preferences  General - do you have selected Close windows 
 when quitting an Application?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, 
 I systematically close every open application. The last few months, when I 
 start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
 applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
 
 Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I 
 do not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
 
 Pat
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

2013-08-18 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Pat,

Hmmm, weird.

Try this: Click on the Apple Logo and hit Restart - take the checkmark OFF 
Reopen windows when logging back in... Then click the Shutdown button.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 18/08/2013, at 5:11 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi, Ronni,
 
 I usually do Command Q to quit an application, or sometimes right-clicking 
 the Dock icon and choosing 'Quit'. And I always cast an eye over the Dock 
 icons to be sure there are no longer any little white dots underneath.
 
 In System Preferences, there are no Login items in Users  Groups.
 
 In General, the box is ticked for Close windows when quitting an Application 
 and
 the Recent items  is set at 10.
 
 Thanks for your reply.
 Pat
 
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:22 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 This is definitely my last email... I just read your email again :(
 check in System Preferences  Users  Groups - Login Items 
 If you have any Applications showing there that you don't want to open 
 automatically when you log in ... 
 1. Select the name of the item you want to prevent from opening at login 
 2. Click Delete (-) below the list on the right.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:10 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Sorry Pat, I am trying to do too many things at once :(
 
 Also in System preferences  General check - Recent Items:  Documents, 
 Apps, and Servers
 do you have a number selected?
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pat,
 
 Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
 
 Check in System Preferences  General - do you have selected Close 
 windows when quitting an Application?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, 
 I systematically close every open application. The last few months, when 
 I start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
 applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
 
 Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I 
 do not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
 
 Pat
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

2013-08-18 Thread Daniel Kerr
Also may be worth doing a PRAM reset and SMC reset
PRAM - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379
SMC - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964
Resetting the SMC for Mac Pro, Intel-based iMac, Intel-based Mac mini, or 
Intel-based Xserve

• Shut down the computer.
• Unplug the computer's power cord.
• Wait fifteen seconds.
• Attach the computer's power cord.
• Wait five seconds, then press the power button to turn on the 
computer.

Kidn regards
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On 18/08/2013, at 5:57 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Pat,
 
 Hmmm, weird.
 
 Try this: Click on the Apple Logo and hit Restart - take the checkmark OFF 
 Reopen windows when logging back in... Then click the Shutdown button.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 5:11 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi, Ronni,
 
 I usually do Command Q to quit an application, or sometimes right-clicking 
 the Dock icon and choosing 'Quit'. And I always cast an eye over the Dock 
 icons to be sure there are no longer any little white dots underneath.
 
 In System Preferences, there are no Login items in Users  Groups.
 
 In General, the box is ticked for Close windows when quitting an Application 
 and
 the Recent items  is set at 10.
 
 Thanks for your reply.
 Pat
 
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:22 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 This is definitely my last email... I just read your email again :(
 check in System Preferences  Users  Groups - Login Items 
 If you have any Applications showing there that you don't want to open 
 automatically when you log in ... 
 1. Select the name of the item you want to prevent from opening at login 
 2. Click Delete (-) below the list on the right.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:10 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Sorry Pat, I am trying to do too many things at once :(
 
 Also in System preferences  General check - Recent Items:  Documents, 
 Apps, and Servers
 do you have a number selected?
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pat,
 
 Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
 
 Check in System Preferences  General - do you have selected Close 
 windows when quitting an Application?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it 
 down, I systematically close every open application. The last few 
 months, when I start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up 
 with all those applications open, and it is now happening more 
 frequently.
 
 Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I 
 do not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
 
 Pat
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