[wtr-general] Re: How to check the load time of an page?

2009-07-10 Thread Rinku Garg

Hi Soori,

Try the followig code...
after   $ie.goto('http://localhost/')
loadtime =$ie.down_load_time.to_s
puts loadtime


Regards
Rinku Garg

On Jul 6, 11:54 am, Soori sure...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I would like to monitor the load time of an web page once in a 15 mins
 for 2hrs, i should log in a file if the load time of that web page
 exceeds 20secs, I tried with following code, but sometimes my page
 takes more than 100 secs to load, am getting that message after that
 100 sec, It would be better if i get the entry on log file immediately
 after exceeding the 20 secs.Please help me in this front. Thanks in
 advance for ur help.

 require 'watir'
 mylog= File.new( Time.now.strftime(%d-%b-%y) + .csv,'a')
 $ie=IE.new
   begin
   startTime=Time.now
   $ie.goto('http://localhost/')
   x=Time.now-startTime
   ltitle=$ie.title
   if x  20
     mylog.puts Time.now.strftime(%I:%M:%S%p).to_s + , + Taking
 more time to respond + , + x.to_s

  elsif $ie.text.include?(Home)
     mylog.puts Time.now.strftime(%I:%M:%S%p).to_s + , +  Page
 Loaded Successfully + , + x.to_s
  else
     mylog.puts Time.now.strftime(%I:%M:%S%p).to_s + , + Failed to
 load the URL + , + ltitle.to_s
   end
 rescue = e
     mylog.puts Time.now.strftime(%I:%M:%S%p).to_s + , + Failed to
 load the URL + , + ltitle.to_s + , + e.to_s
 end

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[wtr-general] How to get firefox window handle

2009-07-10 Thread Kinnu


Hi Friends,

I am using ie.hwnd in watir to get the browser handle. I have observed
that there is no such property available in FireWatir. Is there any
work around for this? basically what i want to do is to get the center
point of the browser.

Regards,
Kinnu


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[wtr-general] Time to learn Watir

2009-07-10 Thread Swap

Hello,

I am new to learn Watir. And my company ask me the estimation to learn
the Watir.

Can you please tell me how much time the learner will need to
understand and learn Watir?

Please reply.

Thanks in advance

Swapnal.
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[wtr-general] Re: Time to learn Watir

2009-07-10 Thread kiran yajamanyam
If you have automation knowledge, it shouldn't take much time to learn.
First start it and you will know about it.

Regards,
Kiran Y

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Swap swapnal.sa...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hello,

 I am new to learn Watir. And my company ask me the estimation to learn
 the Watir.

 Can you please tell me how much time the learner will need to
 understand and learn Watir?

 Please reply.

 Thanks in advance

 Swapnal.
 


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[wtr-general] Re: getting error while running watir script on firefox 3.0.11

2009-07-10 Thread Angrez Singh
Can you please tell what you did this time that it started working so that
it benefits other people also?

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:00 PM, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi Angrez,

 finally its working fine for me...

 Thanks  Regards,
 Aparna

 On Jul 9, 2:48 pm, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:
  Can everybody see if they did all the steps mentioned in the installation
  document? If they are still facing the problem then we can take it from
  there
 
  Thanks,
  Angrez
 
 
 
  On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:44 PM, khaja shaik khaja.sh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Hi,
 
   I am also getting same error on windows xp.
 
   after running the command i got error saying that  Connection failed
 
   Thanks,
   Khaja shariff
 
   On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   After enabling it do this:
 
   Start - run - [firefox installation directory]\firefox.exe -jssh
 
   and then
 
   Start - run - cmd - type telnet localhost 9997
 
   Let me know the results.
 
   - Angrez
 
 On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:03 AM, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi Angrez,
 
   I have enabled the telnet by following the steps given in the link
 and
   then typed telnet localhost 9997 on command prompt. Now am getting
   an error connecting to localhost...could not open connection to the
   host, on port 9997: connect failed
 
   Thanks,
   Aparna
 
   On Jul 8, 10:50 pm, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:
telnet is not enabled by default in vista, I think that may be the
   cause of
the problem. Can you try enabling telnet using the steps described
   here:
  
 http://www.gohacking.com/2008/09/how-to-enable-telnet-command-in-vist...
 
After that repeat what I said in my last email and let me know the
   result.
 
Thanks,
Angrez
 
 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:53 PM, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Angrez,
 
 When i did this, Start - Run - [firefox installation
 directory]
 \firefox.exe -jssh firefox home page is getting opened.
 
 When i typed telnet localhost 9997 on command prompt, it is
 saying
 that telnet is not recognised as an internal or external
 command
 
 aparna
 
 On Jul 8, 5:05 pm, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:
  just try this:
 
  Start - Run - [firefox installation directory]\firefox.exe
 -jssh
 
  Now open command prompt and type telnet localhost 9997
 
  Let me know the results.
 
  - Angrez
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:57 PM, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 
   Hi,
 
   when i tried running the script through command prompt,
 firefox
   home
   page is getting opened but the url mentioned in the script is
 not
   being taken by the firefox. Immediately after firefox home
 page
   getting opened, am getting the error which i have mentioned
   earlier.
   The same is the case when i run the script by pressing F5
 key.
 
   Thanks  Regards,
   Aparna
 
   On Jul 8, 12:39 pm, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com wrote:
sure. I will try that and let you know if any issues.
 
Thanks,
Aparna
 
On Jul 8, 11:17 am, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just to make sure, when you try running the scripts you
 get
   the
 error
   that
 you mentioned in your mail. After that does firefox opens
 up
   or
 nothing
 happens.
 
 Also, can you try running the Firefox executable with
 -jssh
   option
 from
   run
 command as suggested by Kiran and let us know the results
 
 - Angrez
 
 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:24 AM, kiran gki...@gmail.com
 
   wrote:
 
  Hi,
  Open 'firefox -jssh' from Run command and start running
   your
 scripts.
 
  Thanks,
  kiran.
 
  On Jul 8, 10:08 am, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Hi,
 
   JSSH addon is enabled in firefox. I have checked and
 then
   only
   tried
   to run the scripts.
 
   Regards,
   Aparna
 
   On Jul 7, 8:19 pm, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 
AFAIK, firewatir starts firefox with -jssh option
 automatically.
   Just
  check
if jssh addon is enabled in Firefox using the menu
 as
 suggested
   by Anu?
 
- Angrez
 
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Anu Gangavaram 
   anuwri...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 Did you start the Firefox with jssh option?  You
 can
   also
 check
   if
  the jssh
 add-on is in the firefox - Open Firefox - Goto
 Tools
   -
 Addons
   and
  check in
 jssh addon is in.  I am using the same versions
 as
   you are
 and
   it
  works fine
 on my machine.
 
 Rgds,
 Anu
 
 On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:52 AM, aparna 
 aparna.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   

[wtr-general] Re: Firefox 3.5 compatible with FireWatir?

2009-07-10 Thread Angrez Singh
Can you check event viewer/firefox error console to check if XPI has been
installed correctly?

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Al B. a...@comcast.net wrote:


 Hi Angrez,

 I tried the steps in your July 8 post, using the XPI for Windows that
 you posted on July 3, and got the following results when I tried to
 run Firewatir:

 C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/firewatir-1.6.2/lib/firewatir/
 firefox.rb:271:in `set_defaults': Unable to connect to machine :
 127.0.0.1 on port 9997. Make sure
 that JSSh is properly installed and Firefox is running with '-jssh'
 option (Watir::Exception::UnableToStartJSShException)
 from C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/firewatir-1.6.2/lib/
 firewatir/firefox.rb:161:in `initialize'
from benchmark.rb:11:in `new'
from benchmark.rb:11

 Also, I couldn't telnet to port 9997.  I don't have a development
 environment with which to build Firefox, so I'm stuck.

 Please help!

 Thanks,

 Al B.



 On Jul 8, 2:05 pm, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:
  The think is this the XPI that is generated can be installed only on
 Firefox
  1.x as the format in which it is generated works only on that version.
 From
  version 2.x the format of the XPI has changed. You can try the following
  solution:
 
  1. Unpack the XPI that works with Firefox 3.0.x and the newly created XPI
  for Firefox 3.5
  2. Make sure the structure i.e. folder structure is same as that for
 3.0.x
  XPI
  3. Copy install.rdf file from 3.0.x XPI to 3.5 XPI. Open the file and
 change
  the max version to 3.5+
  4. Zip the 3.5.x folder
  5. Rename it to .xpi
 
  Let me know if that works.
 
  - Angrez
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Felipe Knorr Kuhn fkn...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
   Hello Angrez,
 
   What are these tweaks you mentioned?
 
   I have successfully compiled Firefox but like you said, I can't use the
   generated XPI :)
 
   Thanks,
 
   FK
 
   On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   You need to build Firefox with the JSSh extension enabled. To create
 the
   XPI go to JSSh directory and say make xpi that will generate the
 XPI. The
   only problem with the generated XPI is that its format is compatible
 with
   only Firefox 1.5.x versions. We need to tweak the XPI (nothing but a
 zip
   file) a bit. Let me know if you need any help while compiling Firefox
 code.
 
   Thanks,
   Angrez
 
   On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Felipe Knorr Kuhn fkn...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Hello Angrez,
 
   To build the XPI, do you have to go through the whole Firefox
 building
   process?
 
   I've seen guides to build Firefox+JSSh, but I don't know if it
 creates
   the extension file separately or not :)
 
   I could try to build it for Linux.
 
   FK
 
   On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Sure let me know where it fails
 
   On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Gonza gonzalogte...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Works fine! After testing it for a while I can tell you It works!
 I've
   several TCs, if any fails because jssh, I'll let you know.
 
   Thanks,
 
   Gonza- Hide quoted text -
 
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[wtr-general] Re: Time to learn Watir

2009-07-10 Thread Swapnal
I do not have automation knowledge then how much time I will need to learn
everything of Watir?

Swapnal

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:04 PM, kiran yajamanyam 
kiranyajaman...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you have automation knowledge, it shouldn't take much time to learn.
 First start it and you will know about it.

 Regards,
 Kiran Y


 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Swap swapnal.sa...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hello,

 I am new to learn Watir. And my company ask me the estimation to learn
 the Watir.

 Can you please tell me how much time the learner will need to
 understand and learn Watir?

 Please reply.

 Thanks in advance

 Swapnal.



 


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[wtr-general] Re: Time to learn Watir

2009-07-10 Thread Angrez Singh
I am working with watir for more than 3 years now and still learning. The
thing is this:

You do and learn , not you learn and then do.

Basically, what I would suggest is start using Watir, start automating some
pages in your web application, then you will be right person to give the
answer to the question you asked.

- Angrez

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Swapnal swapnal.sa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I do not have automation knowledge then how much time I will need to learn
 everything of Watir?

 Swapnal


 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:04 PM, kiran yajamanyam 
 kiranyajaman...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you have automation knowledge, it shouldn't take much time to learn.
 First start it and you will know about it.

 Regards,
 Kiran Y


 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Swap swapnal.sa...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hello,

 I am new to learn Watir. And my company ask me the estimation to learn
 the Watir.

 Can you please tell me how much time the learner will need to
 understand and learn Watir?

 Please reply.

 Thanks in advance

 Swapnal.






 


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[wtr-general] Re: Time to learn Watir

2009-07-10 Thread Brautigam Gergely
If you don't have ANY kind of automation or programing knowledge in ruby then 
it will take a hell of a lot time. :)

If not, then it should be intuitive enough. I learned the BASICS in a few 
days only. But then again, i have 5 years automation knowledge booth web and 
gui.

Skarlso.

--- On Fri, 7/10/09, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com
Subject: [wtr-general] Re: Time to learn Watir
To: watir-general@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 9:18 AM

I am working with watir for more than 3 years now and still learning. The thing 
is this:

You do and learn , not you learn and then do.

Basically, what I would suggest is start using Watir, start automating some 
pages in your web application, then you will be right person to give the answer 
to the question you asked.



- Angrez

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Swapnal swapnal.sa...@gmail.com wrote:


I do not have automation knowledge then how much time I will need to learn 
everything of Watir?

Swapnal

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:04 PM, kiran yajamanyam kiranyajaman...@gmail.com 
wrote:



If you have automation knowledge, it shouldn't take much time to learn.  First 
start it and you will know about it.




Regards,
Kiran Y

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Swap swapnal.sa...@gmail.com wrote:






Hello,



I am new to learn Watir. And my company ask me the estimation to learn

the Watir.



Can you please tell me how much time the learner will need to

understand and learn Watir?



Please reply.



Thanks in advance



Swapnal.

























  
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[wtr-general] Re: Time to learn Watir

2009-07-10 Thread Prasad Vidala
It is very easy to learn and will definitely not take much time if you keep
interest on learning :-)

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Swapnal swapnal.sa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I do not have automation knowledge then how much time I will need to learn
 everything of Watir?

 Swapnal

 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:04 PM, kiran yajamanyam 
 kiranyajaman...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you have automation knowledge, it shouldn't take much time to learn.
 First start it and you will know about it.

 Regards,
 Kiran Y


 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Swap swapnal.sa...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hello,

 I am new to learn Watir. And my company ask me the estimation to learn
 the Watir.

 Can you please tell me how much time the learner will need to
 understand and learn Watir?

 Please reply.

 Thanks in advance

 Swapnal.






 


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[wtr-general] Re: Time to learn Watir

2009-07-10 Thread kiran yajamanyam
Personally I feel it wouldn't take much time to learn

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Prasad Vidala prasadvida...@gmail.comwrote:

 It is very easy to learn and will definitely not take much time if you keep
 interest on learning :-)


 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Swapnal swapnal.sa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I do not have automation knowledge then how much time I will need to learn
 everything of Watir?

 Swapnal

 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:04 PM, kiran yajamanyam 
 kiranyajaman...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you have automation knowledge, it shouldn't take much time to learn.
 First start it and you will know about it.

 Regards,
 Kiran Y


 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Swap swapnal.sa...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hello,

 I am new to learn Watir. And my company ask me the estimation to learn
 the Watir.

 Can you please tell me how much time the learner will need to
 understand and learn Watir?

 Please reply.

 Thanks in advance

 Swapnal.









 


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[wtr-general] Re: How to get firefox window handle

2009-07-10 Thread kiran yajamanyam
Any info on this friends?


On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Kinnu kiranyajaman...@gmail.com wrote:



 Hi Friends,

 I am using ie.hwnd in watir to get the browser handle. I have observed
 that there is no such property available in FireWatir. Is there any
 work around for this? basically what i want to do is to get the center
 point of the browser.

 Regards,
 Kinnu


 


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[wtr-general] Re: Watir + Cruise Control

2009-07-10 Thread Željko Filipin
Marek,

I started playing with Hudson recently. I was able to set it up and call my
build script. I am still reading the documentation on how to make it all
work nicely.

If you have the time to share with us how you set it up to build the app and
run tests, that would be very nice.

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[wtr-general] Re: How to get firefox window handle

2009-07-10 Thread Angrez Singh
can you explain what you are trying to do by getting the handle of window?
may be we can suggest some workaround to do the same in Firewatir?

- Angrez

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:03 PM, kiran yajamanyam kiranyajaman...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Any info on this friends?



 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Kinnu kiranyajaman...@gmail.com wrote:



 Hi Friends,

 I am using ie.hwnd in watir to get the browser handle. I have observed
 that there is no such property available in FireWatir. Is there any
 work around for this? basically what i want to do is to get the center
 point of the browser.

 Regards,
 Kinnu





 


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[wtr-general] Re: Time to learn Watir

2009-07-10 Thread Željko Filipin
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Swap swapnal.sa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can you please tell me how much time the learner will need to
 understand and learn Watir?

If you have any programming experience, I think you will be surprised by how
much you can do in just a day. I remember that I was able to install Watir
and make log in test for our web application in a few hours. At the time
Watir had a great tutorial that taught me all I needed to know in no time.

Now, the tutorial is even better. :)

My suggestions (with estimates):

- browse http://watir.com/ (15 minutes)
- read http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Quick+Start (60 minutes,
installation included)
- read http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Tutorial (a few hours)

After you are done, you will be able to do almost everything you need. If
you are stuck, ask here.

If you like to listen to people talk, you can grab a few episodes of Watir
Podcast (start with episode 1) where I talk with Watir users and developers
about Watir. You can listen to that on your computer by downloading mp3
files (web site even has flash player so you can listed directly from the
site), or you can listen to it on your iPod (the podcast is in iTunes) or
similar mp3 player.

The only problem could be if you have not programming and/or HTML knowledge,
because the tutorial assumes that you have. That could slow you down a lot.

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[wtr-general] Re: How to get firefox window handle

2009-07-10 Thread kiran yajamanyam
Hi Angrez,

Thanks for your reply. Following is the step which I want to perform.

Want to click on the center point of the firefox window and want to do some
copy paste operation. This is required as I can't set text in the frame as
body of  compose window in my project  had used frame.

In IE following is the piece of code I was using

def getClientCenterPoint(browser)
 myRect=  * 16# store four LONGs
 getClientRect=Win32API.new(user32, GetClientRect, ['I','P'], 'I')
getClientRect = Win32API.new('user32', 'FindWindowEx', ['P'] * 4, 'L')

 getClientRect.call(browser.hwnd, myRect)
 x,y,xpos,ypos=myRect.unpack()

setCursorPos = Win32API.new(user32, SetCursorPos, ['I','I'], 'I')
 setCursorPos.Call(xpos.to_i/2+90,ypos.to_i/2+150)
end

Please let me know if you want any other details.

Regards,
Kinnu

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:

 can you explain what you are trying to do by getting the handle of window?
 may be we can suggest some workaround to do the same in Firewatir?

 - Angrez


 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:03 PM, kiran yajamanyam 
 kiranyajaman...@gmail.com wrote:

 Any info on this friends?



 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Kinnu kiranyajaman...@gmail.comwrote:



 Hi Friends,

 I am using ie.hwnd in watir to get the browser handle. I have observed
 that there is no such property available in FireWatir. Is there any
 work around for this? basically what i want to do is to get the center
 point of the browser.

 Regards,
 Kinnu








 


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[wtr-general] Re: How to get firefox window handle

2009-07-10 Thread Angrez Singh
Right now there is no support for hwnd in Firewatir. Can you use Win32API to
get the handle of the window using the title? If yes, then you can use
firefox title to get the handle.

- Angrez

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:35 PM, kiran yajamanyam kiranyajaman...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Angrez,

 Thanks for your reply. Following is the step which I want to perform.

 Want to click on the center point of the firefox window and want to do some
 copy paste operation. This is required as I can't set text in the frame as
 body of  compose window in my project  had used frame.

 In IE following is the piece of code I was using

 def getClientCenterPoint(browser)
   myRect=  * 16# store four LONGs
  getClientRect=Win32API.new(user32, GetClientRect, ['I','P'], 'I')
  getClientRect = Win32API.new('user32', 'FindWindowEx', ['P'] * 4, 'L')

  getClientRect.call(browser.hwnd, myRect)
  x,y,xpos,ypos=myRect.unpack()

 setCursorPos = Win32API.new(user32, SetCursorPos, ['I','I'], 'I')
  setCursorPos.Call(xpos.to_i/2+90,ypos.to_i/2+150)
 end

 Please let me know if you want any other details.

 Regards,
 Kinnu

 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:

 can you explain what you are trying to do by getting the handle of window?
 may be we can suggest some workaround to do the same in Firewatir?

 - Angrez


 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:03 PM, kiran yajamanyam 
 kiranyajaman...@gmail.com wrote:

 Any info on this friends?



 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Kinnu kiranyajaman...@gmail.comwrote:



 Hi Friends,

 I am using ie.hwnd in watir to get the browser handle. I have observed
 that there is no such property available in FireWatir. Is there any
 work around for this? basically what i want to do is to get the center
 point of the browser.

 Regards,
 Kinnu











 


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[wtr-general] Re: Time to learn Watir

2009-07-10 Thread Smruti Ranjan Kar
I also started using it since last couple of months. I did have automation
knowledge in QTP for 6 months, but then this thing fascinated me more. I am
still learning, but I can suggest a start

- Install Ruby and learn basics. Practice in irb (brush up your OOP
concepts)
- Then focus on learning WATIR. It is easy to understand.

Even you can use WATIR without knowing Ruby well, but your script quality
will depend on your Ruby knowledge. So, After a quick start with Ruby basics
and Watir, keep learning Ruby side by side.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Željko Filipin 
zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Swap swapnal.sa...@gmail.com wrote:
  Can you please tell me how much time the learner will need to
  understand and learn Watir?

 If you have any programming experience, I think you will be surprised by
 how much you can do in just a day. I remember that I was able to install
 Watir and make log in test for our web application in a few hours. At the
 time Watir had a great tutorial that taught me all I needed to know in no
 time.

 Now, the tutorial is even better. :)

 My suggestions (with estimates):

 - browse http://watir.com/ (15 minutes)
 - read http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Quick+Start (60 minutes,
 installation included)
 - read http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Tutorial (a few hours)

 After you are done, you will be able to do almost everything you need. If
 you are stuck, ask here.

 If you like to listen to people talk, you can grab a few episodes of Watir
 Podcast (start with episode 1) where I talk with Watir users and developers
 about Watir. You can listen to that on your computer by downloading mp3
 files (web site even has flash player so you can listed directly from the
 site), or you can listen to it on your iPod (the podcast is in iTunes) or
 similar mp3 player.

 The only problem could be if you have not programming and/or HTML
 knowledge, because the tutorial assumes that you have. That could slow you
 down a lot.

 Željko
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[wtr-general] Re: Time to learn Watir

2009-07-10 Thread Željko Filipin
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Smruti Ranjan Kar 
smrutiranjan@gmail.com wrote:
 After a quick start with Ruby basics and Watir, keep learning Ruby side by
side.

+1

Exactly the way I did it a few years ago.

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[wtr-general] Getting error as - gem_original_require': no such file to load -- Xls (LoadError)

2009-07-10 Thread Durgesh Nadkarni
Hi,

I have installed the ruby 1.8.6 and WATIR 1.6.2.

I have created a script which fetches the data from excel sheet  perform
the operations.

Then I have kept the following code in a common file inside 'Library'
directory which gets data from excel sheet.


require 'Xls' # Xls.rb is in the same directory(Library)
# This function is used to fetch the data from excelsheet.
def getdata()
  xlFile = XLS.new(Dir.pwd + '../Test-Data/Data.xls') #grab the data file
  mydata = xlFile.getRowRecords('Test Data','Sheet1')  #pull data records
from excel
  return mydata
  xlFile.close
end


All the functions related to excel operations are kept Xls.rb file which is
in same directory.Then I am calling the function getdata() from another file
from parent directory as below.


require 'test/unit'
require 'Library/common'
require 'watir'
Watir.options_file = 'E:/Data316/RSC-ePlatform/Automation/options.yml'

class Gmail  Test::Unit::TestCase
 def test_Gmail_Working

  # Calling getdata function
  @myData = getdata()
 end
end


But when I ran the above script I got following error.


c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
`gem_original_require': no

such file to load -- Xls (LoadError)
from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
`require'
from ./Library/common.rb:5
from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in

'gem_original_require'
from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
`require'
from ESR6.rb:7
---

Please help me on the above issue.

Thanks  Regards
Durgesh.

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[wtr-general] Re: getting error while running watir script on firefox 3.0.11

2009-07-10 Thread aparna

Hi,

After enabling telnet, i have uninstalled the firefox version 3.5 and
installed version 3.0. The remaining steps are same like installing
JSSH extension(0.9) and changing the firefox settings. Then it started
working fine.

Regards,
Aparna

On Jul 10, 11:48 am, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can you please tell what you did this time that it started working so that
 it benefits other people also?



 On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:00 PM, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Angrez,

  finally its working fine for me...

  Thanks  Regards,
  Aparna

  On Jul 9, 2:48 pm, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:
   Can everybody see if they did all the steps mentioned in the installation
   document? If they are still facing the problem then we can take it from
   there

   Thanks,
   Angrez

   On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:44 PM, khaja shaik khaja.sh...@gmail.com
  wrote:
Hi,

I am also getting same error on windows xp.

after running the command i got error saying that  Connection failed

Thanks,
Khaja shariff

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com
  wrote:

After enabling it do this:

Start - run - [firefox installation directory]\firefox.exe -jssh

and then

Start - run - cmd - type telnet localhost 9997

Let me know the results.

- Angrez

  On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:03 AM, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:

Hi Angrez,

I have enabled the telnet by following the steps given in the link
  and
then typed telnet localhost 9997 on command prompt. Now am getting
an error connecting to localhost...could not open connection to the
host, on port 9997: connect failed

Thanks,
Aparna

On Jul 8, 10:50 pm, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:
 telnet is not enabled by default in vista, I think that may be the
cause of
 the problem. Can you try enabling telnet using the steps described
here:

 http://www.gohacking.com/2008/09/how-to-enable-telnet-command-in-vist...

 After that repeat what I said in my last email and let me know the
result.

 Thanks,
 Angrez

  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:53 PM, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:

  Hi Angrez,

  When i did this, Start - Run - [firefox installation
  directory]
  \firefox.exe -jssh firefox home page is getting opened.

  When i typed telnet localhost 9997 on command prompt, it is
  saying
  that telnet is not recognised as an internal or external
  command

  aparna

  On Jul 8, 5:05 pm, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:
   just try this:

   Start - Run - [firefox installation directory]\firefox.exe
  -jssh

   Now open command prompt and type telnet localhost 9997

   Let me know the results.

   - Angrez

   On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:57 PM, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hi,

when i tried running the script through command prompt,
  firefox
home
page is getting opened but the url mentioned in the script is
  not
being taken by the firefox. Immediately after firefox home
  page
getting opened, am getting the error which i have mentioned
earlier.
The same is the case when i run the script by pressing F5
  key.

Thanks  Regards,
Aparna

On Jul 8, 12:39 pm, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 sure. I will try that and let you know if any issues.

 Thanks,
 Aparna

 On Jul 8, 11:17 am, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:

  Just to make sure, when you try running the scripts you
  get
the
  error
that
  you mentioned in your mail. After that does firefox opens
  up
or
  nothing
  happens.

  Also, can you try running the Firefox executable with
  -jssh
option
  from
run
  command as suggested by Kiran and let us know the results

  - Angrez

  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:24 AM, kiran gki...@gmail.com

wrote:

   Hi,
   Open 'firefox -jssh' from Run command and start running
your
  scripts.

   Thanks,
   kiran.

   On Jul 8, 10:08 am, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:
Hi,

JSSH addon is enabled in firefox. I have checked and
  then
only
tried
to run the scripts.

Regards,
Aparna

On Jul 7, 8:19 pm, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com
wrote:

 AFAIK, firewatir starts firefox with -jssh option
  automatically.
Just
   check
 if jssh addon is enabled in Firefox using the menu
  as
  suggested
by Anu?

 - Angrez

 On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Anu Gangavaram 
anuwri...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  Did you start the Firefox with jssh option?  You
  can
also
  check
if
   the jssh
 

[wtr-general] Re: getting error while running watir script on firefox 3.0.11

2009-07-10 Thread Angrez Singh
But at no point you said you were using Firefox 3.5, there is separate XPI
for that? Its good that it started working.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:27 PM, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi,

 After enabling telnet, i have uninstalled the firefox version 3.5 and
 installed version 3.0. The remaining steps are same like installing
 JSSH extension(0.9) and changing the firefox settings. Then it started
 working fine.

 Regards,
 Aparna

 On Jul 10, 11:48 am, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:
  Can you please tell what you did this time that it started working so
 that
  it benefits other people also?
 
 
 
  On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:00 PM, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi Angrez,
 
   finally its working fine for me...
 
   Thanks  Regards,
   Aparna
 
   On Jul 9, 2:48 pm, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:
Can everybody see if they did all the steps mentioned in the
 installation
document? If they are still facing the problem then we can take it
 from
there
 
Thanks,
Angrez
 
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:44 PM, khaja shaik khaja.sh...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am also getting same error on windows xp.
 
 after running the command i got error saying that  Connection
 failed
 
 Thanks,
 Khaja shariff
 
 On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 
 After enabling it do this:
 
 Start - run - [firefox installation directory]\firefox.exe -jssh
 
 and then
 
 Start - run - cmd - type telnet localhost 9997
 
 Let me know the results.
 
 - Angrez
 
   On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:03 AM, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 
 Hi Angrez,
 
 I have enabled the telnet by following the steps given in the
 link
   and
 then typed telnet localhost 9997 on command prompt. Now am
 getting
 an error connecting to localhost...could not open connection to
 the
 host, on port 9997: connect failed
 
 Thanks,
 Aparna
 
 On Jul 8, 10:50 pm, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:
  telnet is not enabled by default in vista, I think that may be
 the
 cause of
  the problem. Can you try enabling telnet using the steps
 described
 here:
 
  http://www.gohacking.com/2008/09/how-to-enable-telnet-command-in-vist.
 ..
 
  After that repeat what I said in my last email and let me know
 the
 result.
 
  Thanks,
  Angrez
 
   On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:53 PM, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com
 
   wrote:
 
   Hi Angrez,
 
   When i did this, Start - Run - [firefox installation
   directory]
   \firefox.exe -jssh firefox home page is getting opened.
 
   When i typed telnet localhost 9997 on command prompt, it is
   saying
   that telnet is not recognised as an internal or external
   command
 
   aparna
 
   On Jul 8, 5:05 pm, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:
just try this:
 
Start - Run - [firefox installation
 directory]\firefox.exe
   -jssh
 
Now open command prompt and type telnet localhost 9997
 
Let me know the results.
 
- Angrez
 
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:57 PM, aparna 
 aparna.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 when i tried running the script through command prompt,
   firefox
 home
 page is getting opened but the url mentioned in the
 script is
   not
 being taken by the firefox. Immediately after firefox
 home
   page
 getting opened, am getting the error which i have
 mentioned
 earlier.
 The same is the case when i run the script by pressing F5
   key.
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 Aparna
 
 On Jul 8, 12:39 pm, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  sure. I will try that and let you know if any issues.
 
  Thanks,
  Aparna
 
  On Jul 8, 11:17 am, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Just to make sure, when you try running the scripts
 you
   get
 the
   error
 that
   you mentioned in your mail. After that does firefox
 opens
   up
 or
   nothing
   happens.
 
   Also, can you try running the Firefox executable with
   -jssh
 option
   from
 run
   command as suggested by Kiran and let us know the
 results
 
   - Angrez
 
   On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:24 AM, kiran 
 gki...@gmail.com
 
 wrote:
 
Hi,
Open 'firefox -jssh' from Run command and start
 running
 your
   scripts.
 
Thanks,
kiran.
 
On Jul 8, 10:08 am, aparna aparna.m...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 Hi,
 
 JSSH addon is enabled in firefox. I have checked
 and
   then
 only
 tried
 to run the scripts.
 
 Regards,
 Aparna
 
 On Jul 7, 8:19 pm, Angrez Singh 
 ang...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  AFAIK, firewatir starts firefox with -jssh
 option
  

[wtr-general] Re: Firefox 3.5 compatible with FireWatir?

2009-07-10 Thread Al B.

Hi Angrez.  Thanks for getting back to me.  The error console says:

Error: Components.classes['@mozilla.org/jssh-server;1'] is undefined

Source File:
file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/baracal/Application%20Data/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/bmak0f7g.default/extensions/j...@extensions.mozilla.org/components/nsJSShStarter.js
Line: 133


Thanks,

Al B.


On Jul 10, 2:50 am, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can you check event viewer/firefox error console to check if XPI has been
 installed correctly?



 On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Al B. a...@comcast.net wrote:

  Hi Angrez,

  I tried the steps in your July 8 post, using the XPI for Windows that
  you posted on July 3, and got the following results when I tried to
  run Firewatir:

  C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/firewatir-1.6.2/lib/firewatir/
  firefox.rb:271:in `set_defaults': Unable to connect to machine :
  127.0.0.1 on port 9997. Make sure
  that JSSh is properly installed and Firefox is running with '-jssh'
  option (Watir::Exception::UnableToStartJSShException)
          from C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/firewatir-1.6.2/lib/
  firewatir/firefox.rb:161:in `initialize'
         from benchmark.rb:11:in `new'
         from benchmark.rb:11

  Also, I couldn't telnet to port 9997.  I don't have a development
  environment with which to build Firefox, so I'm stuck.

  Please help!

  Thanks,

  Al B.

  On Jul 8, 2:05 pm, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:
   The think is this the XPI that is generated can be installed only on
  Firefox
   1.x as the format in which it is generated works only on that version.
  From
   version 2.x the format of the XPI has changed. You can try the following
   solution:

   1. Unpack the XPI that works with Firefox 3.0.x and the newly created XPI
   for Firefox 3.5
   2. Make sure the structure i.e. folder structure is same as that for
  3.0.x
   XPI
   3. Copy install.rdf file from 3.0.x XPI to 3.5 XPI. Open the file and
  change
   the max version to 3.5+
   4. Zip the 3.5.x folder
   5. Rename it to .xpi

   Let me know if that works.

   - Angrez

   On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Felipe Knorr Kuhn fkn...@gmail.com
  wrote:

Hello Angrez,

What are these tweaks you mentioned?

I have successfully compiled Firefox but like you said, I can't use the
generated XPI :)

Thanks,

FK

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com wrote:

You need to build Firefox with the JSSh extension enabled. To create
  the
XPI go to JSSh directory and say make xpi that will generate the
  XPI. The
only problem with the generated XPI is that its format is compatible
  with
only Firefox 1.5.x versions. We need to tweak the XPI (nothing but a
  zip
file) a bit. Let me know if you need any help while compiling Firefox
  code.

Thanks,
Angrez

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Felipe Knorr Kuhn fkn...@gmail.com
  wrote:

Hello Angrez,

To build the XPI, do you have to go through the whole Firefox
  building
process?

I've seen guides to build Firefox+JSSh, but I don't know if it
  creates
the extension file separately or not :)

I could try to build it for Linux.

FK

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Angrez Singh ang...@gmail.com
  wrote:

Sure let me know where it fails

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Gonza gonzalogte...@gmail.com
  wrote:

Works fine! After testing it for a while I can tell you It works!
  I've
several TCs, if any fails because jssh, I'll let you know.

Thanks,

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[wtr-general] Re: Time to learn Watir

2009-07-10 Thread George

I have relatively no programming experience.  I started intensely
learning Watir/Ruby 7 months ago.  While I've come a long way, I know
there is so much I don't know about.  I would agree that you will need
to learn Watir AND Ruby side by side.  As a result, I managed to write
a lot of automation scripts for my company.  Needless to say, I was
able to avoid the multiple layoffs we have had recently! :)


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wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Smruti Ranjan Kar 
 smrutiranjan@gmail.com wrote:
  After a quick start with Ruby basics and Watir, keep learning Ruby side by

 side.

 +1

 Exactly the way I did it a few years ago.

 Željko
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[wtr-general] Re: Time to learn Watir

2009-07-10 Thread karim rayani

if one has knowledge of automation then learning watir should only
take around 1 month.
However if automation/programming background then it can take a fair bit of time

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Georgegeorge.sand...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have relatively no programming experience.  I started intensely
 learning Watir/Ruby 7 months ago.  While I've come a long way, I know
 there is so much I don't know about.  I would agree that you will need
 to learn Watir AND Ruby side by side.  As a result, I managed to write
 a lot of automation scripts for my company.  Needless to say, I was
 able to avoid the multiple layoffs we have had recently! :)


 On Jul 10, 4:41 am, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch
 wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Smruti Ranjan Kar 
 smrutiranjan@gmail.com wrote:
  After a quick start with Ruby basics and Watir, keep learning Ruby side by

 side.

 +1

 Exactly the way I did it a few years ago.

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[wtr-general] Re: Watir + Cruise Control

2009-07-10 Thread Dylan

Thank you for the response. Unfortunately, we are already pretty well
entrenched with Cruise Control here and aren't really looking to
change to a new system.

-Dylan

On Jul 9, 5:03 pm, marekj marekj@gmail.com wrote:
 I use Hudson.
 has a ruby and rake plugin.
 I use custom workspace for all jobs. The test code does not need to be
 checked out ever time.
 jobs triggered by rake tasks calling ci_reporter as dependency (the
 Test::Unit version)
 and task body just calls TestRunner.run TestCaseName
 TestCases are Watir::TestCase classes but each method is a collection
 of examples using Rspec matchers instead of assertions
 Hudson post-job collects the xml from test/results/*.xml generated b
 ci_reporter

 Ease and Joy (for now)
 my next step is to actually convert to Rspec ExampleGroups instead of TestCase
 And then covert ci_reporter to use rspec instead of testunit,
 should be painless but takes time
 I have about 6 hours of tests (all the slow ones included)
 about 20 jobs.
 And few jobs that are triggers

 I juse buildWithParameters options so I can pass some ENV variables into 
 Hudson
 that's about it

 marekj

 Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCaseshttp://github.com/marekj/watirloo/

 On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Dylanmej...@gmail.com wrote:

  Does anyone know of a good tutorial/step-by-step instructions for how
  to integrate watir/ruby into a cruise control build cycle. I have 1
  xml output file (from ci_reporter) and I want my script to run after
  the build and then integrate the xml results into the cruise control
  output. Thanks!

  -Dylan
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[wtr-general] Re: Time to learn Watir

2009-07-10 Thread Chuck van der Linden

On Jul 10, 9:06 am, karim rayani karim@gmail.com wrote:
 if one has knowledge of automation then learning watir should only
 take around 1 month.
 However if automation/programming background then it can take a fair bit of 
 time

I could not agree more.

A lot also has to do with aptitude.

Automation is a type of programming, some people have a nack for that,
others do not.  If you are someone to whom programming makes 'sense'
then you will probably pick things up quickly no matter the language
or tool.   A great book to help you learn some of the basic of
programming in RUBY is Everyday Scripting with Ruby by Brian Marick

Test automation is in many ways an art, there's a lot of tricks of the
trade as it were.  some of them you can find here and there in books
etc, but much of it is stuff you learn by doing.  little things like
always starting off a large batch of tests with both a test you expect
to pass, but also one that will intentionally FAIL, and making sure
that you in fact detect that it DID fail.. (so you know your stuff can
actually properly detect and report when something fails, because well
if that's broken then it can look like everthing is working, when in
fact main tests are failing and it's just not being properly
reported)

Web based testing also requires that you have at least a basic
understanding of both the HTTP protocol (at least understanding how
things pass back and forth between the browser and the server), and
the HTML language used for web-pages, and how it can call javascript
to enable dynamic functionality at the client side (which doesn't hit
the webserver in many cases).

Because watir interacts with the browser, you need to have at least a
basic understanding of what makes up a web page, and what the types of
elements on the page are etc.

But really it all depends on you, and your background, aptitude, and
experience.   Some people are going to be able to pick this stuff up
really quickly, for others it may take a lot longer, and for still
others it's time to find a different line or work.

I recently trained a co-worker who understands the basics of web
pages, and has tested for years, but had zero experience with
programming, or automation.  and in a week he was starting to write
watir automation on his own.  not terribly fast, and with a bunch of
questions, but he was producing tests..   (we utilize a combination of
Watir, the Watircraft framework, and Cucumber for our stuff)   a few
months down the road and he's still learning about stuff as needed,
but is largely able to work on his own, and a majority of the
questions are not 'how do I write the watir code for this but more
related to how the actual tested app is supposed to behave, or details
of the user actions we are emulating.
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[wtr-general] Re: Watir + Cruise Control

2009-07-10 Thread Chuck van der Linden

On Jul 9, 10:58 am, Dylan mej...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone know of a good tutorial/step-by-step instructions for how
 to integrate watir/ruby into a cruise control build cycle. I have 1
 xml output file (from ci_reporter) and I want my script to run after
 the build and then integrate the xml results into the cruise control
 output. Thanks!

 -Dylan

Did you try a web search?

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=CruiseControl+Watir

looks like some good stuff to be found from people who have done this


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[wtr-general] Re: run all watircraft specs

2009-07-10 Thread karim rayani

i guess using the rake command we can run alll the spec and then the
result is stored in and index.html file

something like rake specs/spec

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Steveshaml...@twia.org wrote:

 The following seems to work:

 spec xxx.rb yyy.rb zzz.rb -fs

 




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[wtr-general] Re: Time to learn Watir

2009-07-10 Thread Darryl (gem dandy) Brown

Hello Swapnal,

If you have a curiosity for computers in general and like to
learn if you enjoy 'chasing the 'rabbit', you will do well. Prior
experience with automation and programming will make the
journey shorter - approx. 3 months. No experience - 6 -9 months
to be productive. I'm not saying that it's easy, but I can say that
it's fun. Try the best you can.then post questions here.

Good luck,
Darryl

On Jul 10, 2:55 pm, Chuck van der Linden sqa...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jul 10, 9:06 am, karim rayani karim@gmail.com wrote:

  if one has knowledge of automation then learning watir should only
  take around 1 month.
  However if automation/programming background then it can take a fair bit of 
  time

 I could not agree more.

 A lot also has to do with aptitude.

 Automation is a type of programming, some people have a nack for that,
 others do not.  If you are someone to whom programming makes 'sense'
 then you will probably pick things up quickly no matter the language
 or tool.   A great book to help you learn some of the basic of
 programming in RUBY is Everyday Scripting with Ruby by Brian Marick

 Test automation is in many ways an art, there's a lot of tricks of the
 trade as it were.  some of them you can find here and there in books
 etc, but much of it is stuff you learn by doing.  little things like
 always starting off a large batch of tests with both a test you expect
 to pass, but also one that will intentionally FAIL, and making sure
 that you in fact detect that it DID fail.. (so you know your stuff can
 actually properly detect and report when something fails, because well
 if that's broken then it can look like everthing is working, when in
 fact main tests are failing and it's just not being properly
 reported)

 Web based testing also requires that you have at least a basic
 understanding of both the HTTP protocol (at least understanding how
 things pass back and forth between the browser and the server), and
 the HTML language used for web-pages, and how it can call javascript
 to enable dynamic functionality at the client side (which doesn't hit
 the webserver in many cases).

 Because watir interacts with the browser, you need to have at least a
 basic understanding of what makes up a web page, and what the types of
 elements on the page are etc.

 But really it all depends on you, and your background, aptitude, and
 experience.   Some people are going to be able to pick this stuff up
 really quickly, for others it may take a lot longer, and for still
 others it's time to find a different line or work.

 I recently trained a co-worker who understands the basics of web
 pages, and has tested for years, but had zero experience with
 programming, or automation.  and in a week he was starting to write
 watir automation on his own.  not terribly fast, and with a bunch of
 questions, but he was producing tests..   (we utilize a combination of
 Watir, the Watircraft framework, and Cucumber for our stuff)   a few
 months down the road and he's still learning about stuff as needed,
 but is largely able to work on his own, and a majority of the
 questions are not 'how do I write the watir code for this but more
 related to how the actual tested app is supposed to behave, or details
 of the user actions we are emulating.
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[wtr-general] Re: Issue with Select List

2009-07-10 Thread Ravinder Singroha
I agree with you,

If this helps, whenever i do a select event on that list using watir, it
kinda like hangs the UI and then the select list doesn't performs it normal
operation, which was whatever is selected on the list should be displayed in
the text box.

The text box is a read only so i cannot do any .set operations on it.

Have tries onfocus, onchange, onblur, onclick all events i could possibly
fire.. and in combinations.

Tried the TAB key event too.

Is there any Sync problem? The site only works with IE so cannot do reverse
engineering with Firebug, is there something similar as firebug for IE??

How do i get to know which events are fired what could i possibly use here??



Thanks  regards
Ravinder Singroha
+91-9717196269


On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Chuck van der Linden sqa...@gmail.comwrote:


 I notice there's onfocus..

 Potentially the object itself is being changed slightly when the focus
 hits it..  so the page code you are looking at, may not be what's
 there the instant someone has clicked the box to enter a change.

 I'd use the dev toolbar, or firebug and  have a REALLY close look at
 what happens to things inside the dom the moment someone clicks or
 otherwise (via via pressing the tab key) sets the focus onto that
 item.  There may be something that has to happen then that primes the
 pump, and without that happening nothing works.. .

 Sites that are that highly event driven can be a real challenge.. you
 sometimes have to reverse engineer stuff by watching what happens as
 the site responds to each user action such as mouseclicks and key
 presses.

 Also look at what happens if you do things like stick a string into
 the clipboard, right-click that area and paste in the value, (which is
 closer to using the .set method than typing char by char, especially
 on a page with an element setup to react to every single stinking
 keypress...

 On Jul 9, 4:05 am, Ravinder Singroha ravindersingr...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi Bhaskar
 
  We tried almost all set of combination like onchange,onblur n all
  events but its not working.
  is there another way ?
 
  Thanks  Regards
  Ravinder Singroha
 
  On Jul 9, 3:26 am, Powerglide bhaskar.sundar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
   Hi,
  Did you try issuing onblur or onchange
 
  ie.select_list(:name,ABC).select(value)
  ie.select_list(:name,ABC).fire_event(onblur)   # if this
   does'nt work then try
  ie.select_list(:name,ABC).fire_event(onchange)
 
   Regards,
 
   Bhaskar
 
   On Jul 7, 11:10 pm, Ravinder Singroha ravindersingr...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 
Hi
 
I have a scenario in which, if i chose a value in a select list, the
same value is filled in a text box given by calling an onchange
 event.
 
code looks like:select name=ABC onChange=onChangeTerm
('ABC','XYZ') onfocus=enterField(this) size=1 stype=Selection
 
input decimals=0 elength=3 name=XYZ onblur=validateField
(this) onfocus=enterField(this) onkeypress=NumberKeyCheck()
stype=Number type=text value=0 /
 
The problem with this is when i do it manually, whatever value i
 chose
in select list, it gets filled in the text box but when i do using
 the
function:
 
ie.select_list(:name,ABC).select(value)
 
it selects a value but doesn' fills the text box.
 
I tried the fire events also but no help.
 
Can anyone in the group please help me with this issue.
 
I am using  - [watir -1.6.2]
 
i have a chat with  developers and he told to fire onfocus then
onchange event, after selecting the value.
i tried that and other combination too but no success so far.
 
is there anything else i am missing on in here.
i have tried it with QTP  and open source Selenium its working there,
but its not working with Watir, is this  a know issue with watir ?
 
Thanks
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[wtr-general] How Watir Works

2009-07-10 Thread Ravinder Singroha
Hi All


Is there any document or website which explains how watir works? How watir
finds an element using the physical attributes?

how watir waits for browser to reach a sync state? is that information
available freely somewhere?







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