Re:[wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-17 Thread Furry, Tim
Dave P wrote: WDVL is one of internet.com's brands, and we don't have permission to use it. After all they've done hosting this excellent community over the years, I'm not going to stab them in the back by using their brand without their permission to do so. Tim sez: Agreed...they were

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-16 Thread David Precious
Hi Linda, Just wondered if you had any news for us on the future of the WDVL list? My offer to provide hosting for the list still stands, naturally. Not trying to rush you, just curious whether any decision has been made; we're half-way through the month, so I'm wondering whether I need to

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-16 Thread Linda Cole
Hi David, I'm afraid the best I can come up with is a password protected area on a forum. You can set the forum preferences to notify you by email when there is a post to your subscribed threads, but you cannot reply by email; you would have to visit the forum to post to it. Talk it over

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-16 Thread David Precious
Hi Linda, Thanks for the reply. Linda Cole wrote: I'm afraid the best I can come up with is a password protected area on a forum. You can set the forum preferences to notify you by email when there is a post to your subscribed threads, but you cannot reply by email; you would have to visit

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-16 Thread joseph harris
From: David Precious Hi Linda, Thanks for the reply. Linda Cole wrote: I'm afraid the best I can come up with is a password protected area on a forum. You can set the forum preferences to notify you by email when there is a post to your subscribed threads, but you cannot reply by email;

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-16 Thread K.F. Wu
Hi Dave, Count me in for whatever 'List' name everybody comes to agree. Thanks for your take-over service. KoaFar At 11:31 AM 3/16/2009, you wrote: Hi Linda, Thanks for the reply. Linda Cole wrote: I'm afraid the best I can come up with is a password protected area on a forum. You can set

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-16 Thread Riva Portman
Yes, me too. I appreciate all the efforts to keep this list going. Riva On 3/16/2009 3:07 PM, K.F. Wu wrote: Hi Dave, Count me in for whatever 'List' name everybody comes to agree. Thanks for your take-over service. KoaFar • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-16 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/03/16 18:31 (GMT) David Precious composed: You said using the wdvltalk name is out of the question, so that's fine; I'm thinking of something like devtalk? That would make the list devt...@lists.preshweb.co.uk, unless we decide we'd rather register a domain for it. Thoughts,

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-16 Thread David Precious
Felix Miata wrote: I missed the answer to why wdvltalk would be out of the question. How about wdvlcomm? dev* is way generic, not a mnemonic many would recognize. WDVL is one of internet.com's brands, and we don't have permission to use it. After all they've done hosting this excellent

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-16 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/03/16 22:58 (GMT) David Precious composed: Felix Miata wrote: I missed the answer to why wdvltalk would be out of the question. How about wdvlcomm? dev* is way generic, not a mnemonic many would recognize. WDVL is one of internet.com's brands, and we don't have permission to use

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-06 Thread Peter MacGregor
David Precious wrote: Well, like I said, if I can be of assistance give me a shout; I'm happy to host it under the WDVL name for you if desired (and of course give you moderator access, if you still want to moderate this unruly mob ;)) Not sure I like that idea - it's the unruliness that's

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing - Personal note

2009-03-05 Thread Drew Trusz
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Linda Cole lc...@internet.com wrote: Hi Gang, I just wanted to say I've enjoyed working with you all over the years and I'm going to miss you.  Best of luck in all of your endeavors. Thanks, Linda -- lc...@internet.com 615-789-5944 Sorry to see the list

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-05 Thread David Precious
Hi Linda, Linda Cole wrote: Since WDVLTalk has been such a tight community for such a long time, we're going to move the list to the Webdeveloper.com forums rather than close the list. http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/index.php Tentative plans are to give you your own forum, and not just

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-05 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Quoting Linda Cole lc...@internet.com: List, Since WDVLTalk has been such a tight community for such a long time, we're going to move the list to the Webdeveloper.com forums rather than close the list. http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/index.php Tentative plans are to give you your own

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-05 Thread r937
... I don't have to fire up my browser and visit a particular site in order to search for a thread that I once posted on with a forum, you get an email every time someone replies in a thread that you're subscribed to you are automatically subscribed to every thread in which you have posted,

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-05 Thread David Precious
r937 wrote: ... I don't have to fire up my browser and visit a particular site in order to search for a thread that I once posted on with a forum, you get an email every time someone replies in a thread that you're subscribed to you are automatically subscribed to every thread in which you

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-05 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/03/05 10:02 (GMT-0500) r937 composed: i've been on multiple forums for between 7 and 9 years, and forums are more member-friendly than mailing lists I frequent only one web forum, and that only because there is no alternative in existence. The many web forums I have visited are among

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-05 Thread Peter MacGregor
Well, I guess I may as well add my tuppence worth - before the banks lose all my money!! I'm with those that want to maintain a mailing list. I've found this list extremely useful - I've been able to follow threads about things I haven't been involved in but they have been useful to my

RE: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-05 Thread Cheryl D Wise
Mail list, I hate visiting forums so I rarely do, even active ones. Cheryl D Wise April Session Classes http://starttoweb.com: Introduction to CSS Introduction to Expression Web Linda Cole wrote: Since WDVLTalk has been such a tight community for such a long time, we're going to move the

RE: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-05 Thread Cheryl D Wise
Problem with email notification is that you can't reply by email. You have to visit the forum to post and that's where the system you describe fails for me. I've been doing a lot more traveling the last couple of years. So I read and reply to email frequently on my mobile. Can't do that easily on

RE: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-05 Thread Cheryl Hewitt
FYI: With Yahoo Groups you can set it up so that all posts are sent to your email and you can reply from your personal email without opening up the forum. -Cheryl Cheryl D Wise cdw...@wiserways.com wrote: = Problem with email notification is that you can't reply by email.

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-05 Thread David Precious
Cheryl Hewitt wrote: FYI: With Yahoo Groups you can set it up so that all posts are sent to your email and you can reply from your personal email without opening up the forum. ISTR that they insert adverts into at least some of the mails, and you don't get that much control over it? •

RE: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-05 Thread Cheryl D Wise
Cheryl, Yahoo groups is a mail list with a web interface that people can choose to access if they want. It is not a forum in the same sense we are discussing. I own/moderate several Yahoo and Google Groups. That is why they are called groups not forums. What Ruby was talking about are forums

RE: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-05 Thread Cheryl D Wise
You have limited control, on our lists it is text based ads at the bottom of each email but not images, not html. By setting the list to classic format and no html you get unobtrusive stuff most ignore. g Our Dreamweaver group has something like 5600-5800 members so it works for us. Cheryl D

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-05 Thread joseph harris
From: Peter MacGregor Well, I guess I may as well add my tuppence worth - before the banks lose all my money!! . Peter MacGregor Have no fear,they're nationalised. Now all you have to do is fill out a withdrawal request in triplicate and forward it to Peter Mandelson. As

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-05 Thread Linda Cole
List, I looks like the majority of you have an aversion to forums. Therefore, we're going to look into resurrecting the old listserv. I'm not sure we can do this, I'm not sure we can get it approved, I'm not even sure we have what we need on the server. (Can you tell I'm not sure?) :) It's

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing NOT

2009-03-05 Thread David Precious
Linda Cole wrote: I looks like the majority of you have an aversion to forums. Therefore, we're going to look into resurrecting the old listserv. I'm not sure we can do this, I'm not sure we can get it approved, I'm not even sure we have what we need on the server. (Can you tell I'm not sure?)

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-04 Thread r937
On 03/03/2009 05:45 PM, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Quoting Cheryl D Wise cdw...@wiserways.com: xWDVL list linux is the best hosting platform ever and then some... Rudy's guide to SQL whaaa i must've missed some emails here (mail from wdvltalk sometimes ends up in my spam

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-04 Thread David Precious
r937 wrote: i must've missed some emails here (mail from wdvltalk sometimes ends up in my spam folder) what's this about the list closing? can somebody give me a quick recap? Basically, the wdvltalk list will be closing at the end of the month; take a look at the archives to catch up on

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-04 Thread r937
Is this also a chance to update the rouges gallery (is that still hosted these days?) :oP http://www.laughing-buddha.net/wdvl/ ;o) • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-04 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Quoting r937 rudy...@rogers.com: Is this also a chance to update the rouges gallery (is that still hosted these days?) :oP http://www.laughing-buddha.net/wdvl/ ;o) LOL, that's an l picture... Let's decide the name of the new list and then setup a new gallery (or even go web

RE: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-04 Thread Conyers, Dwayne
http://www.laughing-buddha.net/wdvl/ That picture is old but I actually don't look much different. Dunno if that is good or bad? -- The generation that took acid to escape reality is now taking antacid to deal with realith http://blog.dwacon.com • The WDVL Discussion List from

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-04 Thread David Precious
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Let's decide the name of the new list and then setup a new gallery (or even go web 2.0 and start a facebook page?) Agreed, sounds good! I'm thinking WDAG for Web Developers Advice Group sounds reasonable; it's short and memorable :) Votes for/against,

RE: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-04 Thread Cheryl D Wise
Well according to Google there seems to be two group already using it: WDAG Web Design Advisory Group, a Google Group and Workshop on Distributed Algorithms that holds regular conferences. Cheryl D Wise -Original Message- From: David Precious I'm thinking WDAG for Web Developers

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-04 Thread K.F. Wu
I vote for WDAG. KoaFar At 02:32 PM 3/4/2009, you wrote: Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Let's decide the name of the new list and then setup a new gallery (or even go web 2.0 and start a facebook page?) Agreed, sounds good! I'm thinking WDAG for Web Developers Advice Group sounds

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-03 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Quoting David Precious dav...@preshweb.co.uk: Linda Cole wrote: It has been our pleasure to provide a forum for this vital community over the years that we've operated the WDVLTalk discussion list. We regret to announce that as part of necessary cost cutting measures, the list will

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-03 Thread Jure Špik, Carpe diem, d.o.o.
It was nice to talk to you and lurk. Fare well, colleagues. jure • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send

RE: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-03 Thread Ann Dietz
Thanks to Linda and the crew at Jupitermedia for supporting the wdvltalk list. I know that I mostly lurk but it has been of value. I'll join the new list though under a new name, Violet Bliss Dietz, rather than Ann Dietz. (It's a long story.) And I didn't know there was a social offshoot

Re:[wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing - Personal note

2009-03-03 Thread Furry, Tim
Linda, I'd like to chime in with my thanks for your efforts over the years. I've been on and off list depending on job situations but WDVL was right there with me when I made the plunge into web development several years back. I remember the shock when MOU revealed his true identity. :-)

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-03 Thread Linda Cole
Yup, as long as it's OK with Linda and the WDVL crew to use the WDVL name for the offshoot list, I'll set it up and send out the subscription link :) Since WDVL.com is a viable internet.com website, it would probably be best if you change the name of any offshoot list. Thanks, Linda

RE: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing - Personal note

2009-03-03 Thread Conyers, Dwayne
I'm so glad we had this time together... -- The generation that used acid to escape reality now uses antacid to deal with reality. http://blog.dwacon.com • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or

RE: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-03 Thread Cheryl D Wise
xWDVL list Cheryl D Wise April Session Classes http://starttoweb.com: Introduction to CSS Introduction to Expression Web -Original Message- From: Linda Cole Since WDVL.com is a viable internet.com website, it would probably be best if you change the name of any offshoot list.

RE: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-03 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Quoting Cheryl D Wise cdw...@wiserways.com: xWDVL list linux is the best hosting platform ever and then some... Rudy's guide to SQL Is there anyone here? It's been quiet for days... MOU is not He-Man or, more appropriately Web Developers Advice Guide M. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-03 Thread David Precious
On 03/03/2009 05:45 PM, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Quoting Cheryl D Wise cdw...@wiserways.com: xWDVL list linux is the best hosting platform ever and then some... Rudy's guide to SQL :) Is there anyone here? It's been quiet for days... Strangely appropriate :) web-lurkers or

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-03 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
MOU is not He-Man I'm touched and honoured that after all these years I've stayed in the group consciousness. It makes the closing of the list a little more personal. Thank you. That's eased a very bad day. MOU Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Quoting Cheryl D Wise cdw...@wiserways.com:

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing - Personal note

2009-03-02 Thread Riva Portman
Hi Linda, Thank you for all that you have done. I will really miss this list and everyone on it. Best of luck everyone! Riva On 3/2/2009 3:54 PM, Linda Cole wrote: Hi Gang, I just wanted to say I've enjoyed working with you all over the years and I'm going to miss you. Best of luck in

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-02 Thread David Precious
Linda Cole wrote: It has been our pleasure to provide a forum for this vital community over the years that we've operated the WDVLTalk discussion list. We regret to announce that as part of necessary cost cutting measures, the list will shut down at the end of March. I'm very sorry to hear

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-02 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
She may not be able to pass over the subscription list David, but I'm sure anybody here who wants to continue can mail you off-list with their interest and you sign them up, unless of course your system has a subscription request so just give us the link. Ross David Precious wrote: Linda

RE: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-02 Thread Robert Hoenig
: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing She may not be able to pass over the subscription list David, but I'm sure anybody here who wants to continue can mail you off-list with their interest and you sign them up, unless of course your system has a subscription request so just give us the link. Ross David

Re: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-02 Thread David Precious
Hi Ross, Ross Clutterbuck wrote: She may not be able to pass over the subscription list David, but I'm sure anybody here who wants to continue can mail you off-list with their interest and you sign them up, unless of course your system has a subscription request so just give us the link.

RE: [wdvltalk] WDVLTalk list closing

2009-03-02 Thread Cheryl D Wise
You might want 8 publish the sign-up info for the companion social list to this one. Many of the long term members are already subscribed but I don't think anything has been mentioned about it for a long time. Note, I aged with the others that this has been a beneficial best. I'll miss it.