Re: [web2py] Re: Say hello to pyStack.com

2010-12-19 Thread Branko Vukelic
you can see how much can the system be controlled. Thanks again. Sounds good. I was just about to 'complain' about missing openID authentication. :) Looking good, though. It's a great first step. -- Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com http://www.brankovukelic.com/ http://flickr.com/photos

Re: [web2py] Powertable remarks

2010-12-17 Thread Branko Vukelic
/#table~Table_Remote_Model.html -- Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com http://www.brankovukelic.com/ http://flickr.com/photos/foxbunny

Re: [web2py] Powertable remarks

2010-12-17 Thread Branko Vukelic
ping your server, or you can use a JSONP service, or XML, whatever you want. Tehcnically, you could write a model that parses HTML pages and extracts data from them. There's no need to adapt your server to qooxdoo thanks to this. -- Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com http

Re: [web2py] Re: delicious is closing

2010-12-17 Thread Branko Vukelic
on their hands these days :) Yahooo should have sold the service rather than close it, IMHO. -- Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com http://www.brankovukelic.com/ http://flickr.com/photos/foxbunny

Re: [web2py] Re: delicious is closing

2010-12-17 Thread Branko Vukelic
to upgrade their Vm's Nice! hope this come back soon. 2010/12/17 Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com Hehe, yeah. Should've seen it coming. :D - Original Message - From: Tomeu Sent: 12/17/10 03:49 PM To: web2py-users Subject: [web2py] Re: delicious is closing

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-17 Thread Branko Vukelic
to spell in detail the changes they make. That should be sufficient to discourage forks but not to discourage people to use it in commercial products. You were one step in front of me. :) +1 -- Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com http://www.brankovukelic.com/ http://flickr.com/photos

Re: [web2py] Re: Powertable remarks

2010-12-17 Thread Branko Vukelic
server side, I am sure it will be a good option for grids in web2py applications. somebody knows who created jQgrid and webgrid plugin? -- Bruno Rocha http://about.me/rochacbruno/bio -- Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com http://www.brankovukelic.com/ http://flickr.com

Re: [web2py] Vote in web2py for PyCon 2011 Tutorials

2010-12-16 Thread Branko Vukelic
? If tutorials were held on all these topics, which ones would you or your organization pay to attend? https://spreadsheets0.google.com/viewform?formkey=dF9wdHV0SHhMLWVKV1MzX0hpYW9XZnc6MQ#gid=0 -- Bruno Rocha http://about.me/rochacbruno/bio -- Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com http

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-16 Thread Branko Vukelic
is there to protect the freeness of the software, and that's why web2py uses it, then this discussion is pointless. -- Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com http://www.brankovukelic.com/ http://flickr.com/photos/foxbunny

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-16 Thread Branko Vukelic
be an improvement over GPLv2. It closed many of the loopholes, and also became more compatible with other licenses such as MIT and BSD 3-clause. That's, I think, important since some libs do have code from those two licenses. -- Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com http

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-16 Thread Branko Vukelic
? -- Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com http://www.brankovukelic.com/ http://flickr.com/photos/foxbunny

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-16 Thread Branko Vukelic
no objection to move to GPL3. Yet that does not help in clarifying the web2py license. As a hypothetical question. Who here would oppose to moving to BSD or MIT or other more permissive license? Massimo On Dec 16, 2:54 pm, Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com wrote: - Original Message

Re: [web2py] delicious is closing

2010-12-16 Thread Branko Vukelic
time ago. Today I read that yahoo will close delicious soon. It's time to migrate to my own bookmark app, question is.. there's a bookmark application wrote in web2py, should I start one? :D Kind regards! -- Albert Abril, @desmondo http://bressol.org -- Branko Vukelic branko.vuke

Re: [web2py] delicious is closing

2010-12-16 Thread Branko Vukelic
://zootool.com/user/rochacbruno/ 2010/12/16 Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com Damn! I have a shitload of bookmarks there... :( Anyway, yeah, go for it! You can advertise as The next Delicioustm - Original Message - From: Albert Abril Sent: 12/17/10 12:22 AM To: web2py

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-16 Thread Branko Vukelic
quality. -- Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com http://www.brankovukelic.com/ http://flickr.com/photos/foxbunny

Re: [web2py] delicious is closing

2010-12-16 Thread Branko Vukelic
). this *was* the success of delicious IMHO. On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.comwrote: Does it do tagging? I really liked the way delicious bmarks can be tagged and all... - Original Message - From: Bruno Rocha Sent: 12/17/10 12:43 AM To: web2py

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-16 Thread Branko Vukelic
is there a concern that more people will lean on Massimo to add bloat? That would definitely be unfortunate. At that point, I'd just conclude it's become too popular for its own good. But I doubt Massimo would just add in any kind of crap that flies in. -- Branko Vukelic branko.vuke

Re: [web2py] delicious is closing

2010-12-16 Thread Branko Vukelic
, audio etc from web. I really like it. 2010/12/16 Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com Let's not forget the awesome AND supported firefox plugin. 3 - Original Message - From: Albert Abril Sent: 12/17/10 12:52 AM To: web2py@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [web2py

Re: [web2py] delicious is closing

2010-12-16 Thread Branko Vukelic
/16 Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com Zoo Tool has tags, friends and plugins for firefox and chrome. it also can tag individual images, videos, audio etc from web. I really like it. 2010/12/16 Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com Let's not forget the awesome AND supported firefox

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-16 Thread Branko Vukelic
- Original Message - From: Anthony Sent: 12/17/10 02:30 AM To: web2py-users Subject: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it... On Dec 16, 6:14 pm, Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com wrote: Reading the full text of the Apache license, I think dual-licensing web2py under GPLv2

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-16 Thread Branko Vukelic
you've modified web2py somehow, or used pieces of it in your application code (where 'pieces of it' excludes the welcome app). -- Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com http://www.brankovukelic.com/ http://flickr.com/photos/foxbunny

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-16 Thread Branko Vukelic
- Original Message - From: Anthony Sent: 12/17/10 04:22 AM To: web2py-users Subject: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it... So, at least one advantage of BSD is it doesn't require all this clearing up. ;) How nice... -- Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com http

Re: [web2py] Re: administrator controller

2010-12-15 Thread Branko Vukelic
Wasn't Thadeus working on this, though? With a public API so it can integrate into admin, and all the bells and whistles. On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:28 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: If we can repurpose Martin's app and he is willing to maintain it, that would be the best solution.

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-15 Thread Branko Vukelic
Don't start this discussion again. :) It's already soft-of decided that web2py will remain GPL. On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Wikus van de Merwe dupakrop...@googlemail.com wrote: Why GPL is discouraging users? Is it the case that Drupal, Wordpress or Joomla have no users? They are all

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-15 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 7:25 PM, pbreit pbreitenb...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry but this requires a response. I was kind of hoping it did not, but there you go... You'd have to prove some sort of unintended circumstance to No! YOU would have to give us a CONCRETE case where GPL+exception setup

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-15 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:07 PM, pbreit pbreitenb...@gmail.com wrote: It's clear that GPL scares off potential users. That bug is already marked invalid. You'd have to give us a stack trace if you want to reopen it, and preferably attach a working patch. Please also note the version of web2py

Re: [web2py] RMS about Chrome OS and Cloud Computing

2010-12-15 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: RMS being quite rough as usual, but in the end he has some good points... think twice before using web2py on GAE!! :-D http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/dec/14/chrome-os-richard-stallman-warning

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-15 Thread Branko Vukelic
- Original Message - From: Anthony Sent: 12/15/10 10:54 PM To: web2py@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it... I like GPL plus a (clarified) exception, but I wouldn't exactly say pbreit's concerns are invalid. There clearly is some history of confusion

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-15 Thread Branko Vukelic
with that intent. Do I need to go on? -- Branko Vukelic branko.vuke...@gmx.com http://www.brankovukelic.com/ http://flickr.com/photos/foxbunny

Re: [web2py] Re: Simple debugger

2010-12-14 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:32 AM, weheh richard_gor...@verizon.net wrote: I want to go to Eclipse but didn't succeed in getting it to install run the first time through. Have you tried NetBeans? It's goot support for Python (still beta), and it wasn't so bad the last time I tried. Although I

Re: [web2py] grid

2010-12-14 Thread Branko Vukelic
PowerTable? ;) On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: To avoid confusion and to avoid problems with the author's old plugin for DataTables. http://web2py.com/plugins/default/datatable I decided to rename the plugin, and I am in doubt, what about?

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-14 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:06 PM, VP vtp2...@gmail.com wrote: I am happy with what Massimo intends web2py's license to be.  I think a lot of people are too.  App developers should not have to worry about the licensing issues.  I think the license should be precise and concise.  Further because

Re: [web2py] Re: Simple debugger

2010-12-14 Thread Branko Vukelic
I absolutely prefer ipdb for debugging and Vim for editing. The combo is unbeatable. :) Try splitting the buffer in Netbeans or Aptana. In Vim, it's just ``:split``. :) I love this editor. 3 -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:

Re: [web2py] Simple debugger

2010-12-14 Thread Branko Vukelic
-a mumble -p 8000 -i 127.0.0.1) Thanks! On Dec 13, 2010, at 23:13 , Branko Vukelic wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: Someone else has any debug tip or advice for sharing? I used this: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ipdb All the IPython goodness + pdb

Re: [web2py] Simple debugger

2010-12-14 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Lorin Rivers lriv...@mosasaur.com wrote: ipython web2py.py -a 1234 -i 127.0.0.1 -p 8000 ipython != ipdb ipdb is an embedded shell + debugger. ipython is just a shell. I used to be able to use the ipython's embedded shell in my projects, but that didn't work in

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:00 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: 1) all web2py/*.py and web2py/gluon/*py files are LPGL +1 2) all web2py/gluon/contrib/* files are LGPL unless specified +1 otherwise (MIT or BSD are possible for third party contributions) 3rd party contributions

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: source and freeware for binaries) rather than LGPL with a commercial exception (which could lead to confusion and concern). LGPL _is_ the commercial exception. That's why they call it lesser. :) -- Branko Vukelić

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
not violate GPL. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: source and freeware for binaries) rather than LGPL with a commercial exception (which could lead to confusion and concern). LGPL _is_

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, LGPL (I think) allows the exception to distribute the source along with an application that links/imports the source. I was talking about the other web2py exception, which allows distribution of the binaries without the

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, I thought it was just the opposite -- people like MIT/BSD because they don't place any restrictions on how you license a modified/derived work. So, you can take an MIT/BSD licensed program, modify/combine it, and then

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Your app is GPL-free anyway Because of the exception, to be precise, not according to GPL. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my

Re: [web2py] Re: manual login-form

2010-12-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
Bruno, is there something like {{=authform.children}} to render all the interior without the FORM tags? On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: form.elements()[0].attributes['_id'] and form.attributes['_id'] get/set the same value. 2010/12/13 Bruno Rocha

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, December 13, 2010 8:38:12 AM UTC-5, Branko Vukelic wrote: Sorry, I missed this post. Would you mind sending the exact question you asked and the full response from GNU? I'm surprised because I would think a web2py

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Wikus van de Merwe dupakrop...@googlemail.com wrote: So as you see, the GPL alone as well as the special case of licensing of web2py and application written for it is quite complex. I believe we all would benefit from having all this explained in a separate

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: intellectual property attorney with open source experience. Maybe it's not worth the bother/cost right now, though. First, technically, GPL license is totally ok if we look at web2py on its own. It gets the job done. Releasing

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:33 PM, pbreit pbreitenb...@gmail.com wrote: Unless there is a move away from GPL, I don't think it's worthwhile to split Absolutely. You do not have to discuss the LGPL/GPL licensing issue if it offends you so much. Especially if you cannot refrain from name-calling

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Graham Dumpleton graham.dumple...@gmail.com wrote: it being a part of the library. Thus technically the template code may be construed as ending up as part of your application. FSF specifically allows this in LGPL, if I'm not mistaken: The object code form of

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Graham Dumpleton graham.dumple...@gmail.com wrote: They may have clarified it then. I am only going by what problems I knew came up many many many years ago, ie., early 90s. However, web2py is still using GPLv2 :P That ought to be fixed. GPLv3 is both more

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: The FSF has a different agenda from people who want to distribute their web2py applications closed source. GPL plus exceptions certainly works, but However, FSF's agenda also aligns with that of Massimo and some of us,

Re: [web2py] Simple debugger

2010-12-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: Someone else has any debug tip or advice for sharing? I used this: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ipdb All the IPython goodness + pdb-style debugging. You get auto-complete and command history, too. ;) -- Branko Vukelić

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-13 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good. Though ideally we would get some expert advice at some point. Agreed. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 9:51 AM, pbreit pbreitenb...@gmail.com wrote: 1. GPL is more objectionable than BSD/MIT Both GPL and BSD are not well suited to template code, that's the point. So which one would you suggest? It's already been suggested (with a minor wording problem). Look at the

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:09 AM, LightDot light...@gmail.com wrote: Has this scenario been looked over by a lawyer? Any such document would enable us to put customers at ease. It's a no brainer. The license covers the platform, not the code written _using_ that platform. It's not like

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: platform, mind you. GPL strictly covers the code that you have _received_ not the one you've produced yourself. Speaking of which, many developers use Linux, and many more sites are served off Linux boxes. And Linux

Re: [web2py] Re: BUTTON helper

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:55 AM, weheh richard_gor...@verizon.net wrote: To be more explicit, I think BUTTON is good for newbies -- it's just so obvious and convenient. Now TAG.BUTTON ... yes, I like TAG, but I'm not used to thinking about it. I guess that makes me a newbie, still. STRONG

Re: [web2py] BUTTON helper

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
Not the same as button. Buttons are easier to style in general, and there's a good reason why it's used instead of input type=submit / or input type=button /. Also, button can wrap HTML, which is another reason why it's loved among fronted designers. :) On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Bruno

Re: [web2py] anybody use the web2py IRC chat?

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:48 AM, weheh richard_gor...@verizon.net wrote: Just curious. I don't use it, but I probably would if I thought I could get a fast response from an expert. Don't worry, you'll get answers here fast enough. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 5:08 PM, pbreit pbreitenb...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any advantages of GPL (with respect to frameworks)? It depends. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 6:39 PM, pbreit pbreitenb...@gmail.com wrote: But as you say, BSD/MIT are better for users. He didn't say that. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 7:21 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I think we should close this discussion. It is not going anywhere. The license of web2py is not up for discussion. +1 -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
not violate GPL by having import statements in your code, as you can safely detach your code from web2py and reattach to another copy running somewhere else. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:08 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097742/ On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 2

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
This may also be relevant: Q. In what cases is the output of a GPL program covered by the GPL too? A. Only when the program copies part of itself into the output. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my

Re: [web2py] Re: Test for null not in a form

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Lorin Rivers lriv...@mosasaur.com wrote: As far as I can tell, the only place null is mentioned in the DAL page is in the definition of tables. None means NULL in Python, though. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my

Re: [web2py] Re: anybody use the web2py IRC chat?

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
Take a deep breath. :) On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:32 PM, weheh richard_gor...@verizon.net wrote: Yah, this group is wonderfully fast. Occasionally I get desperate, though ... ;-) On Dec 12, 9:18 am, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:48 AM, weheh richard_gor

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Graham Dumpleton graham.dumple...@gmail.com wrote: As such, you can't rely on what you quote above. The only way is an exception statement to the GPL and even then that would need to be very carefully worded. In all this you really need a lawyer to look at the

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:53 AM, LightDot light...@gmail.com wrote: and all), but I've never seen it or done it. Which is also the point of MIT. And exactly why massimo insists on GPL, which forbids this. So if the end result is the same (one can freely produce open or closed source

Re: [web2py] Re: SEO Tips How this can be applied in web2py apps?

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Michael McGinnis ish...@biographiks.com wrote: Those are good ideas. Automatically appending the site name at the end of each title might be helpful. Or copying the first paragraph as a fall-back meta-description (not so sure about that one). Or inserting

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:46 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: imported module are distributed with the compiled app (case 1). It is not linking if the py or pyc modules are not distributed together (case 2). In case 2 the GPL does not apply. Case 1 is not allowed by the GPL and

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-11 Thread Branko Vukelic
As long as it's not Affero GPL, they really have nothing to worry about. I acutally like GPL more than BSD and other crap. Viral licenses are much better for upstream. On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 5:17 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: are you talking about the web2py license? Why would a

Re: [web2py] Re: User login in jquery colorbox

2010-12-11 Thread Branko Vukelic
Yes exactly. The login should wait for a return value, and do the redirect itself. The server side should issue a redirect only if it knows it's not an ajax request. On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Luther Goh Lu Feng elf...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, you are clearer now. I don't know the answer but

Re: [web2py] Re: User login in jquery colorbox

2010-12-11 Thread Branko Vukelic
. [1] http://programming.top54u.com/Samples/Javascript/Location-Object/Location-Replace/Default.aspx On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Yes exactly. The login should wait for a return value, and do the redirect itself. The server side should issue a redirect

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-11 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:23 PM, G. Clifford Williams g...@notadiscussion.com wrote: Thanks I appreciate that and I'll surely take you up on that it I think it'll help me win one of these battles. The bottom line is that many commercial entities frown on GPL licensed software. Legal

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-11 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:49 PM, VP vtp2...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding is this.   The apps that you develop with Web2py does not have to be GPL, and can be licensed in any way you want.  (I am unsure if this violates GPL's terms or not, but this is what I think how web2py's licensing

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-11 Thread Branko Vukelic
of each .py file in the welcome app. Massimo On Dec 11, 2:52 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:49 PM, VP vtp2...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding is this.   The apps that you develop with Web2py does not have to be GPL, and can be licensed

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-11 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:02 AM, pbreit pbreitenb...@gmail.com wrote: For what it's worth, I believe the following is accurate: 1. GPL is more objectionable than BSD/MIT Both GPL and BSD are not well suited to template code, that's the point. 2. Frameworks tend not to use GPL So? --

Re: [web2py] Re: it case you missed it...

2010-12-11 Thread Branko Vukelic
I think it's better to just remove the favicon. Having a default logo is just as bad as having a web2py logo. On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: we can have a different favicon following the different logo that welcome has. @branko can suggest one?

Re: [web2py] Re: Scalability of web2py?

2010-12-11 Thread Branko Vukelic
after 10 failures apr_socket_connect(): Connection reset by peer (54) Total of 1998 requests completed On Dec 4, 7:39 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 1:59 AM, blackthorne francisco@gmail.com wrote: I've read it while ago

Re: [web2py] Re: Interesting fights

2010-12-09 Thread Branko Vukelic
, December 6, 2010 8:27:41 PM UTC-5, Anthony wrote: On Dec 6, 7:51 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.b...@gmail.com wrote: Oooh, someone's going legal: For example suing pyjamas. -- Massimo For the record, Redditors, just a typo (suing -- using) -- no one is suing pyjamas. ;) Really? :D

Re: [web2py] it case you missed it...

2010-12-09 Thread Branko Vukelic
Frankly, DAL is the only thing that kept me from really digging into web2py. I just cannot wrap my brain around it. Could be some malfunction on my part, but still. I'm much happier typing away SQL or having wrapper functions that work almost as if you're typing SQL. The perfect thing for me was

Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax

2010-12-06 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: I use features as needed in each pages. If i can figure out  a way to put jqgrid to work hell , i will use full qxd ! http://qx/api/#qx.ui.embed.Html This allows you to create an HTML element you need in order to attach

Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax

2010-12-06 Thread Branko Vukelic
Sry, the API docs link was from my home server. :P Here's the correct url: http://demo.qooxdoo.org/1.2.x/apiviewer/#qx.ui.embed.Html On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: I use

Re: [web2py] Re: Interesting fights

2010-12-06 Thread Branko Vukelic
Nothing scientific. It's just you know... a 'haha' thing. ;) On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:58 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: based on what? On Dec 6, 10:57 am, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GBword1=python+programm...http

Re: [web2py] Re: Interesting fights

2010-12-06 Thread Branko Vukelic
/r/Python/comments/edvws/an_often_asked_question_to_which_i_still_dont/c17mxpx On Dec 6, 11:57 am, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GBword1=python+programm...http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GBword1=python+programm...http

Re: [web2py] Re: Interesting fights

2010-12-06 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:06 AM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 6, 7:51 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Oooh, someone's going legal: For example suing pyjamas. -- Massimo For the record, Redditors, just a typo (suing -- using) -- no one is suing pyjamas. ;) Really

Re: [web2py] Re: Interesting fights

2010-12-06 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 6, 7:51 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Oooh, someone's going legal: For example suing pyjamas. -- Massimo For the record, Redditors, just a typo (suing -- using) -- no one is suing pyjamas

Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax

2010-12-06 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks man! i am now going to build a mockup of my app using it! No problem. Good luck! -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my

Re: [web2py] Re: Scalability of web2py?

2010-12-05 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: If this become a langauge war: Erlang have many scability advantages , yes , but Langauge Looks horrible!! almost as readable as C (in my opinion) Erlang is not just a language. When I say Erlang, I mean Erlang/OTP,

Re: [web2py] Re: Deploying a site powered by web2py.

2010-12-05 Thread Branko Vukelic
() On Dec 5, 12:52 am, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Check the server logs. That usually means there's a bug in your scripts. On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 3:40 AM, RyaneD scadzomb...@gmail.com wrote: I fixed the second problem but the first remains. I

Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax

2010-12-05 Thread Branko Vukelic
of jqgrid capabilities. I just wish it would be really nice if qooxdoo will support jq's themeroller.. and it will be more than perfect! I am testing qooxdoo and going to put jqGrid and autocomplete plugins in it to see how it fits :) I like both of them. On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra

Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax

2010-12-05 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: I agree all the awesomeness and powerfulness of qxd but as i has been spoiled by jQuery and i hated java with a passion [I had to use java all previous years for a IP-Camera project ,i developed an UDP Hole punching +

Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax

2010-12-05 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: So it seems that it will need to hack around pretty much to put jqGrid inside one of the qooxdoo window. as jqGrid need an element with an id which can be slected by jquery. What's the deal with jqGrid? There's a qxd

Re: [web2py] Re: Time to relax, off topic - Simple IQ Testing.

2010-12-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 2:50 PM, villas villa...@gmail.com wrote: Who can propose minimum lines to re-factor Massimo's code? Of course two lines to be included somewhere must be: x=[(2,3,10),(7,2,63),(6,5,66),(8,4,96)] a,b = 9,7 Please first state your number of lines and then be prepared to

Re: [web2py] Re: I Just Need a Programmer

2010-12-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
each other mostly because they want to buy theirs clients, not the technologies or the ideas. The want to sell their own ideas and technologies to the clients of the acquired company. Massimo On Dec 3, 2:20 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's the same

[web2py] Timepicker

2010-12-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
Since we've discussed the topic of timepickers before, I've just stumbled upon a very good solution from the Dojo camp. Here's a demo. http://www-01.ibm.com/software/ucd/UE/dijit/tests/form/test_TimeTextBox.html?theme=claro Except for the minor visual noise in the form of emphasized hundred

Re: [web2py] Re: Time to relax, off topic - Simple IQ Testing.

2010-12-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:09 PM, dustin.b dustin.bens...@googlemail.com wrote: took me a while to find my calculator(behind my desk) cuz im not that bright at mental math ... til ...  i realized im sitting in front of one .. doohh  did that indicate my intelligence ? :D 'hope not! :) did

Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax

2010-12-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
Awesome feature set. On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: instead of extjs i can happily recommend you using qooxdoo. see: http://qooxdoo.org On Dec 3, 11:10 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM, ron_m ron.mco...@gmail.com

Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax

2010-12-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
OMG! I'm definitely using this for admin2! I've just started the Hello World tutorial. I can't believe the attention it's been given... /me drops jaw On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome feature set. On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mengu whalb

Re: [web2py] Re: Scalability of web2py?

2010-12-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 1:59 AM, blackthorne francisco@gmail.com wrote: I've read it while ago. The problem with that test is the number of processors. It takes a high number of CPUs to bring Erlang benefits. Another 'problem' is that it's not about performance when it comes to Erlang. It's

Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax

2010-12-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
powerful CSS Framework. I found it very easy/productive to use, and themeroller rocks! On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: OMG! I'm definitely using this for admin2! I've just started the Hello World tutorial. I can't believe the attention it's been given... /me drops jaw On Sun

Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax

2010-12-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
the stuff you need. It have very powerful CSS Framework. I found it very easy/productive to use, and themeroller rocks! On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: OMG! I'm definitely using this for admin2! I've just started the Hello World tutorial. I can't believe the attention it's

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