Re: [web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-08 Thread Vinicius Assef
That's the main reason I chose web2py. In some point, frameworks will look like competitors, but some details matters. This is one we must pay attention on. -- Vinicius Assef. On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:09 PM, rochacbruno rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: I am a Pylons user too, at our company the

Re: [web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-08 Thread Andrew Thompson
On 11/6/2010 4:46 PM, mdipierro wrote: What can I say? They managed to break backward compatibility for 3 frameworks at once. Users will be pissed. While I agree that backward compatibility is *very* comforting to users, I see a few possible problems with being completely unforgiving about

Re: [web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-08 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Andrew Thompson andre...@aktzero.com wrote: * Paradigm shifts in technology, Web3, or newer WSGIs, or some other basic component making a quantum leap that just works differently. One word: web3py :) -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com

[web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-08 Thread mdipierro
http://web3py.com/ On Nov 8, 12:50 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Andrew Thompson andre...@aktzero.com wrote: * Paradigm shifts in technology, Web3, or newer WSGIs, or some other basic component making a quantum leap that just works differently.

[web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-07 Thread Luther Goh Lu Feng
On Nov 7, 5:55 am, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: (well, perhaps web2py is implied in the ...) I gather most people are not aware web2py exists. It's too different: * Uses upper-case method names * Has it's

[web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-07 Thread mdipierro
thought you may enjoy this discussion... http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/e22ol/pyramid_is_a_small_fast_downtoearth_python_web/c14omr0 Massimo On Nov 7, 12:02 am, Luther Goh Lu Feng elf...@yahoo.com wrote: On Nov 7, 5:55 am, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 6,

Re: [web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-07 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 5:20 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: thought you may enjoy this discussion... http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/e22ol/pyramid_is_a_small_fast_downtoearth_python_web/c14omr0 Discussion about the MV framework was really interesting, though. And Massimo

Re: [web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-07 Thread rochacbruno
I am a Pylons user too, at our company the main product is made with Pylons. We had extra work migrating from 0.9 to Pylons 1.0 because they broke compatibility. After all the months of work, we are now lost with this new change. Even creators saying that Pylons API will be always there,

[web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-06 Thread Luther Goh Lu Feng
On Nov 7, 3:31 am, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss/browse_thread/thread/97... http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears/browse_frm/thread/47779d858... And web2py continues to watch from the shadows ready to pounce (j/k)

[web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-06 Thread mdipierro
What can I say? They managed to break backward compatibility for 3 frameworks at once. Users will be pissed. I did not really look in detail to comment on the technical merits but I do find their MV argument (Pyramid is not MVC but MV very confusing). Massimo On Nov 6, 3:18 pm, Luther Goh Lu

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2010-11-06 Thread Anthony
I did not really look in detail to comment on the technical merits but I do find their MV argument (Pyramid is not MVC but MV very confusing). Yeah, they say, The concepts of view and model are used by pyramid mostly as they would be by Django. So, I guess their V is more like our C (and

Re: [web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-06 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Luther Goh Lu Feng elf...@yahoo.com wrote: On Nov 7, 3:31 am, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss/browse_thread/thread/97... http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears/browse_frm/thread/47779d858... And web2py

[web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-06 Thread Anthony
On Nov 7, 3:31 am, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss/browse_thread/thread/97... http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears/browse_frm/thread/47779d858... And web2py continues to watch from the shadows ready to pounce (j/k) Being called #2

Re: [web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-06 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: (well, perhaps web2py is implied in the ...) I gather most people are not aware web2py exists. It's too different: * Uses upper-case method names * Has it's app manager and built-in editor (two actually, and couting) * Migrates

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2010-11-06 Thread Albert Abril
What about hyde? https://github.com/blog/342-hyde-the-python-static-site-generator https://github.com/blog/342-hyde-the-python-static-site-generatorHyde is a static website generator powered by Python Django. Hyde supports all the Django template tags filters and even has a few of its own. The

Re: [web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-06 Thread Branko Vukelic
It's not a web application framework, though. I doubt it will survive web 3.0. On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Albert Abril albert.ab...@gmail.com wrote: What about hyde? https://github.com/blog/342-hyde-the-python-static-site-generator Hyde is a static website generator powered by Python  

[web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-06 Thread Kevin
Pylons is light enough that breaking compatibility isn't as much of an issue as you would think. Pylons was one framework in a line of abandoned frameworks, each of which was mostly about providing the glue between unrelated components. Therefore, at any given time, you can get away with never

[web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-06 Thread Richard
no new features in the last 2 years - wow! * Has a weird lead developer that implements just about any great idea he picks up in the list :) hahaha

Re: [web2py] Re: Interesting developments...

2010-11-06 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Richard richar...@gmail.com wrote: * Has a weird lead developer that implements just about any great idea he picks up in the list :) hahaha You can't imagine how unfuny that can sound to some projects. :D I think they might cry if they saw the line. --