Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-05-04 Thread Nayan
Hi, What's the status of Webkit2? I've built the latest webkit version on Windows with --webkit2 option and I see that there is only one process shown in Task Manager irrespective of the number of Windows that I open. Reagrds, Nayan. On 4/13/10, Geoffrey Garen gga...@apple.com wrote: Will I be

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-05-04 Thread Mike Marchywka
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:40:14 +0530 From: naya...@gmail.com To: gga...@apple.com CC: webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2 Hi, What's the status of Webkit2? I've built the latest webkit version

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-05-04 Thread Sam Weinig
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Nayan naya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, What's the status of Webkit2? I've built the latest webkit version on Windows with --webkit2 option and I see that there is only one process shown in Task Manager irrespective of the number of Windows that I open. Reagrds,

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-10 Thread Brent Fulgham
On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:40 AM, Xan Lopez wrote: Another issue seems to be that parts of the public C API expose CoreFoundation, which definitely would be an issue for the other ports. I'm told on the side that this was just done as a quick solution to have something running and that if there's

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Adam Treat tr...@kde.org wrote: On Thursday 08 April 2010 09:24:32 pm Darin Adler wrote: On Apr 8, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Adam Treat wrote: Can someone please point to the bug report and the forum where this development was discussed by the greater WebKit

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Xan Lopez
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Xan Lopez x...@gnome.org wrote: I suppose I could wait until you land the patches and see by myself, but: - In the wiki you mention that one goal of the new framework is to provide a stable C-based API. Is this meant as a public API for WebKit, the same in all

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 9, 2010, at 3:36 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: I hope this post clarifies why the Chromium WebKit port is not really a viable solution for our needs as it stands today. It was _very_ helpful. Thanks for taking the time to explain it so well. (It might be worth moving some of that

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Zoltan Herczeg
Hi! Your wiki says: DrawingArea - an abstraction for a cross-process drawing area. Multiple drawing strategies are possible, the simplest is just a shared memory bitmap. Could you tell me more about it? I am working on a parallel painting feature (GraphicsContext commands can be forwarded to

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread zaheer ahmad
hi , why only multi-process and not multi-thread like android. It is useful for mobile environments. thanks, Zaheer On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Apr 9, 2010, at 3:40 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Apr 9, 2010, at 3:36 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote:

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Hajime Morita
Hi, It looks supporting multi-threaded model. See WebProcessLauncher.mm for detail. -- morita On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:11 PM, zaheer ahmad zaheer@gmail.com wrote: hi , why only multi-process and not multi-thread like android. It is useful for mobile environments. thanks, Zaheer On

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Adam Treat
On Friday 09 April 2010 06:24:51 am Maciej Stachowiak wrote: Given what proportion of overall maintenance work on WebKit I done by Apple, I don't think anyone is entitled to veto us adding a new API Whaa? Who is talking about veto of Apple's work? Rather, I am suggesting that it would have

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Geoffrey Garen
Another issue seems to be that parts of the public C API expose CoreFoundation, which definitely would be an issue for the other ports. I'm told on the side that this was just done as a quick solution to have something running and that if there's interest by other ports in using this we'd

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Anders Carlsson
On Apr 8, 2010, at 5:58 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: - Does your new framework require any significant changes in WebCore? Could you briefly summarize them? No WebCore changes are required - it works with the existing WebCore. Right now WebCore needs to be built with some different flags

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 9, 2010, at 7:14 AM, Adam Treat wrote: On Friday 09 April 2010 06:24:51 am Maciej Stachowiak wrote: Given what proportion of overall maintenance work on WebKit I done by Apple, I don't think anyone is entitled to veto us adding a new API Whaa? Who is talking about veto of Apple's

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Cameron Zwarich
On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:34 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Adam Treat tr...@kde.org wrote: On Thursday 08 April 2010 09:24:32 pm Darin Adler wrote: On Apr 8, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Adam Treat wrote: Can someone please point to the bug report and the forum where this

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Adam Barth
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Cameron Zwarich cwzwar...@webkit.org wrote: We seem to welcome pretty much any port that has an active maintainer. IMHO, that's a good thing. I wonder if we should archive ports that don't have an active maintainer (e.g., by moving them into a branch). Adam

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Kenneth Christiansen
Which ports are considered unmaintained? Kenneth On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Cameron Zwarich cwzwar...@webkit.org wrote: We seem to welcome pretty much any port that has an active maintainer. IMHO, that's a good thing.  

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Adam Barth wrote: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Cameron Zwarich cwzwar...@webkit.org wrote: We seem to welcome pretty much any port that has an active maintainer. IMHO, that's a good thing. I wonder if we should archive ports that don't have an active

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Oliver Hunt
On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Adam Barth wrote: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Cameron Zwarich cwzwar...@webkit.org wrote: We seem to welcome pretty much any port that has an active maintainer. IMHO, that's a good thing. I wonder if

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Adam Treat
On Friday 09 April 2010 02:11:33 pm Maciej Stachowiak wrote: There were in fact bugs opened with patches attached, and webkit-dev was notified before any of the patches were committed afaik. However, Indeed, but the post to webkit-dev had no link to the patches and no time was given for anyone

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Adam Treat
On Friday 09 April 2010 04:53:31 pm Cameron Zwarich wrote: In the past we have accepted the Chromium port despite it having a new JS engine, new DOM bindings, an overreaching catch-all #ifdef for unrelated changes, numerous layering violations, and seemingly unnecessary changes or replacements

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Darin Fisher
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Cameron Zwarich cwzwar...@webkit.orgwrote: On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:34 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Adam Treat tr...@kde.org wrote: On Thursday 08 April 2010

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-09 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Adam Treat wrote: On Friday 09 April 2010 02:11:33 pm Maciej Stachowiak wrote: the new piece of tech really is just a new API layer for the Mac and Win ports. We are interested in other people being able to reuse this technology, but fundamentally, this is an

[webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-08 Thread Anders Carlsson
Hello everyone, This is a heads-up that we will shortly start landing patches for a new WebKit framework that we at Apple have been working on for a while. We currently call this new framework WebKit2. WebKit2 is designed from the ground up to support a split process model, where the web

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-08 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Anders Carlsson ander...@apple.com wrote: Hello everyone, This is a heads-up that we will shortly start landing patches for a new WebKit framework that we at Apple have been working on for a while. We currently call this new framework WebKit2. WebKit2 is

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-08 Thread Sam Weinig
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote: On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Anders Carlsson ander...@apple.com wrote: Hello everyone, This is a heads-up that we will shortly start landing patches for a new WebKit framework that we at Apple

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-08 Thread Xan Lopez
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Anders Carlsson ander...@apple.com wrote: Hello everyone, This is a heads-up that we will shortly start landing patches for a new WebKit framework that we at Apple have been working on for a while. We currently call this new framework WebKit2. WebKit2 is

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-08 Thread Darin Adler
On Apr 8, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Xan Lopez wrote: - In the wiki you mention that one goal of the new framework is to provide a stable C-based API. Is this meant as a public API for WebKit, the same in all platforms (like JSC), or a stable internal API for embedders to use in order to implement

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-08 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 8, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Xan Lopez wrote: I suppose I could wait until you land the patches and see by myself, but: - In the wiki you mention that one goal of the new framework is to provide a stable C-based API. Is this meant as a public API for WebKit, the same in all platforms (like

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-08 Thread Xan Lopez
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Darin Adler da...@apple.com wrote: As I understand it, the goal is to have a C API that is suitable and works well cross platform for all the many platform independent operations; it is indeed analogous the one for JavaScriptCore in that respect. When you

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-08 Thread Chris Fleizach
If its in a separate process, does Accessibility still work as expected? On Apr 8, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Anders Carlsson wrote: Hello everyone, This is a heads-up that we will shortly start landing patches for a new WebKit framework that we at Apple have been working on for a while. We

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-08 Thread Adam Treat
Hi, Can someone please point to the bug report and the forum where this development was discussed by the greater WebKit community? Cheers, Adam On Thursday 08 April 2010 08:58:22 pm Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Apr 8, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Xan Lopez wrote: I suppose I could wait until you land

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-08 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 8, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Chris Fleizach wrote: If its in a separate process, does Accessibility still work as expected? It does not yet work in this rough initial version, but it's certainly our intent to make it work. Cheers, Maciej On Apr 8, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Anders Carlsson

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-08 Thread Chris Fleizach
Great. I think Google chrome has taken a similar approach and have had trouble making accessibility work because of the inter-process separation, so when we come up with a solution, maybe they can adopt as well. On Apr 8, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Apr 8, 2010, at 6:19

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-08 Thread Adam Treat
On Thursday 08 April 2010 09:24:32 pm Darin Adler wrote: On Apr 8, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Adam Treat wrote: Can someone please point to the bug report and the forum where this development was discussed by the greater WebKit community? The time for that discussion is now. The forum is here. I

Re: [webkit-dev] Announcing WebKit2

2010-04-08 Thread Brent Fulgham
Hi, On Apr 8, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Anders Carlsson wrote: Hello everyone, This is a heads-up that we will shortly start landing patches for a new WebKit framework that we at Apple have been working on for a while. We currently call this new framework WebKit2. Awesome! I can't wait to see