Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Refresh Heads up

2019-03-21 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:42 AM Frédéric Wang wrote: > On 20/03/2019 20:45, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > I agree on the goal but disagree on the suggestion. At minimum, we should > decide each case separately and try to collect some data before. > >> We can continue to agree to disagree on this

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Refresh Heads up

2019-03-21 Thread Frédéric Wang
On 20/03/2019 20:45, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > I agree on the goal but disagree on the suggestion. At minimum, we > should decide each case separately and try to collect some data before. > > We can continue to agree to disagree on this point. But I strongly > object to removing any features

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Refresh Heads up

2019-03-20 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:42 AM Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 5:57 AM Frédéric Wang wrote: > >> On 16/03/2019 00:04, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >> >> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 3:33 PM Frédéric Wang wrote: >> >>> Hi Ryosuke and Myles, >>> >>> Thank you for your reply. First, the exact

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Refresh Heads up

2019-03-20 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 5:57 AM Frédéric Wang wrote: > On 16/03/2019 00:04, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 3:33 PM Frédéric Wang wrote: > >> Hi Ryosuke and Myles, >> >> Thank you for your reply. First, the exact thing about what will be in >> MathML Core is still open, people

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Refresh Heads up

2019-03-20 Thread Frédéric Wang
On 16/03/2019 00:04, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 3:33 PM Frédéric Wang > wrote: > > Hi Ryosuke and Myles, > > Thank you for your reply. First, the exact thing about what will > be in MathML Core is still open, people are welcome to join and >

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Refresh Heads up

2019-03-20 Thread Frédéric Wang
On 16/03/2019 00:29, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > It’s easier for us to check Apple Books and iOS App compatibility for > a batch of possible removals at once, instead of one at a time. We can > start by looking at the set of items below. > > It’s helpful to give a heads-up other than the normal

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Refresh Heads up

2019-03-15 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
> On Mar 15, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Frédéric Wang wrote: > > Hi Ryosuke and Myles, > > Thank you for your reply. First, the exact thing about what will be in MathML > Core is still open, people are welcome to join and participate to the MathML > CG [1] or comment on the GitHub tracker [2]. > >

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Refresh Heads up

2019-03-15 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 3:33 PM Frédéric Wang wrote: > Hi Ryosuke and Myles, > > Thank you for your reply. First, the exact thing about what will be in > MathML Core is still open, people are welcome to join and participate to > the MathML CG [1] or comment on the GitHub tracker [2]. > > Our

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Refresh Heads up

2019-03-15 Thread Frédéric Wang
Hi Ryosuke and Myles, Thank you for your reply. First, the exact thing about what will be in MathML Core is still open, people are welcome to join and participate to the MathML CG [1] or comment on the GitHub tracker [2]. Our plan was also to remove features from WebKit but of course ultimately

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Refresh Heads up

2019-03-15 Thread Myles C. Maxfield
> On Mar 15, 2019, at 11:29 AM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 3:08 AM Frédéric Wang > wrote: > Hello WebKit developers, > > As some of you may know, Igalia is working on MathML support in Chromium > this year [1]. As part of that effort we joined

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Refresh Heads up

2019-03-15 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 3:08 AM Frédéric Wang wrote: > Hello WebKit developers, > > As some of you may know, Igalia is working on MathML support in Chromium > this year [1]. As part of that effort we joined a new MathML Refresh > Community Group [2] and one goal is to focus on a core spec for

[webkit-dev] MathML Refresh Heads up

2019-03-15 Thread Frédéric Wang
Hello WebKit developers, As some of you may know, Igalia is working on MathML support in Chromium this year [1]. As part of that effort we joined a new MathML Refresh Community Group [2] and one goal is to focus on a core spec for browser implementations [3] to: - Remove

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML refactoring: Project Complete!

2016-07-13 Thread Brent Fulgham
Thank you for all of this work, Frédéric! I don’t think our WebML rendering has ever looked so good! :-) -Brent > On Jul 13, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Frédéric WANG wrote: > > Hi WebKit developers, > > We are happy to announce that we are done with the MathML refactoring >

[webkit-dev] MathML refactoring: Project Complete!

2016-07-13 Thread Frédéric WANG
Hi WebKit developers, We are happy to announce that we are done with the MathML refactoring proposed last December [1]. The first phase was a big clean up of the MathML implementation and you can find details in a first blog post [2] but essentially: * MathML renderer classes now derive from

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML layout refactor proposal

2015-12-29 Thread Frédéric WANG
Hi Dave, Thank you for your message. It's good to see that you are still interested in what's happening in WebKit MathML. I believe we agree with the goals you state, however most of your claims on flexbox VS a separate renderer class seemed to be assumptions you made 3 years ago. People

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML layout refactor proposal

2015-12-28 Thread Alejandro Garcia Castro
Hi Dave, thanks very much for your comments and feedback, this information is great to document the whole design process of the code. I agree with the goals you are pointing out, actually I think the change to use flexbox was a good option to try at that point. But currently considering the

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML layout refactor proposal

2015-12-22 Thread Dave Barton
Since I was the one who changed RenderMathMLBlock to derive from RenderFlexibleBox instead of RenderBlock back in 2012, I thought I should reply to the recent question on it and give my reasons for doing so.1. Ideally, we want most webkit developers to not even have to think about MathML. If you

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML layout refactor proposal

2015-12-22 Thread dbarton
2nd try - hopefully as raw text, not an html attachment this time: Since I was the one who changed RenderMathMLBlock to derive from RenderFlexibleBox instead of RenderBlock back in 2012, I thought I should reply to the recent question on it and give my reasons for doing so. 1. Ideally, we want

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML layout refactor proposal

2015-12-14 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
Hi Alex, I think this refactoring makes a lot of sense. This is very close to what I wanted to do with MathML four years ago so I'm very happy to hear that you're taking the initiative here. - R. Niwa On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Alejandro Garcia Castro wrote: > > Hi, > >

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML layout refactor proposal

2015-12-14 Thread Zalan Bujtas
It’s great to hear that MathML is getting some proper cleanup. I think the proposal sounds good and I am looking forward to the patches. Minor observation: I noticed that, since MathML block is no longer a flexbox, but it still needs some of the flexbox functionality, the following pattern has

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML layout refactor proposal

2015-12-14 Thread Frédéric WANG
Le 14/12/2015 19:39, Zalan Bujtas a écrit : > It’s great to hear that MathML is getting some proper cleanup. I think the > proposal sounds good and I am looking forward to the patches. > > Minor observation: I noticed that, since MathML block is no longer a flexbox, > but it still needs some of

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML layout refactor proposal

2015-12-14 Thread Alejandro Garcia Castro
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 08:03:12PM +0100, Frédéric WANG wrote: > Le 14/12/2015 19:39, Zalan Bujtas a écrit : > > It’s great to hear that MathML is getting some proper cleanup. I think the > > proposal sounds good and I am looking forward to the patches. > > > > Minor observation: I noticed that,

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML layout refactor proposal

2015-12-14 Thread Javier Fernandez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 12/14/2015 08:03 PM, Frédéric WANG wrote: > Le 14/12/2015 19:39, Zalan Bujtas a écrit : >> It’s great to hear that MathML is getting some proper cleanup. I >> think the proposal sounds good and I am looking forward to the >> patches. >> >>

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML layout refactor proposal

2015-12-10 Thread Myles C. Maxfield
I can't comment for the rest of the team, but I am very excited to see this!  -- Myles > On Dec 9, 2015, at 3:35 AM, Alejandro Garcia Castro wrote: > > > Hi, > > In the last months we have been working on refactoring the MathML > layout code to make it more maintainable,

[webkit-dev] MathML layout refactor proposal

2015-12-09 Thread Alejandro Garcia Castro
Hi, In the last months we have been working on refactoring the MathML layout code to make it more maintainable, because in the current point fixing issues or adding new features has been too complex. We have reached the point where we think we have to discuss whether this work makes sense and

[webkit-dev] MathML

2013-12-20 Thread Peter Frane
To whom it may concern, I'm the developer of ReforMath, a multi-platform C/C++ library for rendering MathML. You can check the screenshots here: http://reformath.webnode.com/ and http://reformath.weebly.com/. I'd like to know whether there are MathML-related opportunities for me in your

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML

2013-12-20 Thread Peter Frane
Why did my email bounce? I'm a subscribed. Thanks. From: pfran...@hotmail.com To: webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 08:15:07 +0800 Subject: [webkit-dev] MathML To whom it may concern, I'm the developer of ReforMath, a multi-platform C/C++ library for rendering MathML. You

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML

2013-12-20 Thread Tim Horton
On Dec 20, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Peter Frane pfran...@hotmail.com wrote: Why did my email bounce? I'm a subscribed. Thanks. It didn’t. From: pfran...@hotmail.com To: webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 08:15:07 +0800 Subject: [webkit-dev] MathML To whom it may concern

[webkit-dev] MathML Anonymous Block Conundrum

2011-06-21 Thread Alex Milowski
I've run into a conundrum with anonymous blocks yet again. I was helping track down a crash relating to DOM manipulation. While I fixed that particular case by just marking all the instances as anonymous blocks, this solution doesn't work in general. In many places in the MathML rendering code

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML renderer

2011-01-05 Thread Dirk Schulze
Am 05.01.2011 um 06:14 schrieb Maciej Stachowiak: It might make sense to use subdirectories of rendering/, as svg has started to (although this seems incomplete - SVG folks, is the plan to move the remaining SVG-related rendering files from rendering/ to rendering/svg?). Yes it is on the

[webkit-dev] MathML renderer

2011-01-04 Thread Dirk Schulze
Hi webkit-dev, I was looking at the MathML code recently and I wonder, that all files are located at WebCore/mathml, even the renderer. Shouldn't the rendering code be moved to WebCore/rendering/? Or better WebCore/rendering/mathml/? Dirk ___

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML renderer

2011-01-04 Thread Alex Milowski
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Jan 4, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Dirk Schulze wrote: Hi webkit-dev, I was looking at the MathML code recently and I wonder, that all files are located at WebCore/mathml, even the renderer. Shouldn't the rendering code be

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML renderer

2011-01-04 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jan 4, 2011, at 7:09 PM, Alex Milowski wrote: On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Jan 4, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Dirk Schulze wrote: Hi webkit-dev, I was looking at the MathML code recently and I wonder, that all files are located at

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Component in bugs.webkit.org?

2010-06-23 Thread Alexey Proskuryakov
22.06.2010, в 17:46, Darin Adler написал(а): I’m not entirely sure we get a lot of value out of the separate bugs.webkit.org components we currently have. I restrict search by component rather frequently. My use case is searching for a specific bug I remember having seen before, but I'm

[webkit-dev] MathML Component in Bugzilla?

2010-06-22 Thread Alex Milowski
Could someone create a MathML component for bug reports in Bugzilla? Please? -- --Alex Milowski The excellence of grammar as a guide is proportional to the paucity of the inflexions, i.e. to the degree of analysis effected by the language considered. Bertrand Russell in a footnote of

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Component in bugs.webkit.org?

2010-06-22 Thread Darin Adler
On Jun 22, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Alex Milowski wrote: Could someone create a MathML component for bug reports in Bugzilla? Sure, I added it. I hope it’s helpful to have a separate component for this. I’m not entirely sure we get a lot of value out of the separate bugs.webkit.org components we

[webkit-dev] MathML in Qt

2010-04-29 Thread Alex Milowski
My patch for MathML support in the Qt port build has just been committed. So far it looks good. There are some issues with the over all MathML rendering code on Linux that I'm looking into (e.g. stack operators have some font issues). These aren't specific to the Qt port. -- --Alex Milowski

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML in Qt

2010-04-29 Thread İsmail Dönmez
Nice! Thanks for letting us know. Regards, ismail On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Alex Milowski a...@milowski.org wrote: My patch for MathML support in the Qt port build has just been committed. So far it looks good. There are some issues with the over all MathML rendering code on Linux

[webkit-dev] MathML Update: Recent Progress

2010-02-08 Thread Alex Milowski
I've just added support for mfrac (fractions) as a separate patch. I've also updated the monster patch with all the latest code against the trunk. You can get this from: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33703 There are a number of individual patches that need review:

[webkit-dev] MathML Component in Bugzilla?

2010-01-29 Thread Alex Milowski
For those in control of Bugzilla, I think it would be a good idea to have a MathML component in Bugzilla just like there is a SVG component. -- --Alex Milowski The excellence of grammar as a guide is proportional to the paucity of the inflexions, i.e. to the degree of analysis effected by the

[webkit-dev] MathML Patch Review Request

2010-01-28 Thread Alex Milowski
There are a number of relatively new MathML related patches waiting to be reviewed: * https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34228 - compile-time layout debugging support * https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34275 - CSS update * https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34277 -

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Patch - Current Code

2010-01-21 Thread Alex Milowski
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Alex Milowski a...@milowski.org wrote: I plan on creating smaller patches that contain code from this patch and as that gets committed, I'll update this bug with a new patch against the trunk. Here's my first patch that splits off some of the basic setup:

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Patch - Current Code

2010-01-18 Thread David Hyatt
We should make a branch for you to work (like we did with XBL). dave On Jan 14, 2010, at 10:30 PM, Alex Milowski wrote: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Alex Milowski a...@milowski.org wrote: I've create a new patch

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Project Contact etc.

2010-01-15 Thread Zoltan Horvath
On Friday 15 January 2010, at 07:32, Alex Milowski wrote: I'm presenting my MathML in WebKit work tomorrow at the Joint AMS/MAA meeting here in San Francisco. Will somebody record the presentation? After looking through my slides I feel that I'm unsatisfied with what I'm telling people

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Project Contact etc.

2010-01-15 Thread Alex Milowski
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Zoltan Horvath zol...@webkit.org wrote: On Friday 15 January 2010, at 07:32, Alex Milowski wrote: I'm presenting my MathML in WebKit work tomorrow at the Joint AMS/MAA meeting here in San Francisco. Will somebody record the presentation? Unfortunately no.

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Project Contact etc.

2010-01-15 Thread Chris Jerdonek
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:32:11 -0800 From: Alex Milowski a...@milowski.org Subject: [webkit-dev] MathML Project Contact etc. I'm presenting my MathML in WebKit work tomorrow at the Joint AMS/MAA meeting here in San Francisco.  After looking through my slides I feel that I'm unsatisfied

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Project Contact etc.

2010-01-15 Thread Alex Milowski
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Chris Jerdonek chris.jerdo...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:32:11 -0800 From: Alex Milowski a...@milowski.org Subject: [webkit-dev] MathML Project Contact etc. I'm presenting my MathML in WebKit work tomorrow at the Joint AMS/MAA meeting here

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Project Contact etc.

2010-01-15 Thread Alex Milowski
Here's the presentation: http://www.milowski.com/www/webkit/mathml/maa2010/ You can move through the slides with either the buttons or Alt + Arrow Key. You'll need a MathML enabled browser to view the example slides. I'll be demoing a version of WebKit with my MathML code. It does a

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Patch - Current Code

2010-01-15 Thread Evan Martin
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Alex Milowski a...@milowski.org wrote: Have you considered using git and creating local branches for yourself? Unless I'm missing something, that doesn't help me with distributing the code to others who want to work with it. This is probably off-topic for the

[webkit-dev] MathML Patch - Current Code

2010-01-14 Thread Alex Milowski
I've create a new patch that contains all the current code that I have on MathML at: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33703 I don't expect anyone to review this patch (unless they want to do so). Since I can't create a branch, I'm using this patch to store the current working copy of

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Patch - Current Code

2010-01-14 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Alex Milowski a...@milowski.org wrote: I've create a new patch that contains all the current code that I have on MathML at: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33703 I don't expect anyone to review this patch (unless they want to do so). Since I

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Patch - Current Code

2010-01-14 Thread Alex Milowski
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Alex Milowski a...@milowski.org wrote: I've create a new patch that contains all the current code that I have on MathML at:   https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33703 I don't

[webkit-dev] MathML Project Contact etc.

2010-01-14 Thread Alex Milowski
I'm presenting my MathML in WebKit work tomorrow at the Joint AMS/MAA meeting here in San Francisco. After looking through my slides I feel that I'm unsatisfied with what I'm telling people about where to go for more information or to contribute to the project. I'd like a better way for: *

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Project - Interested?

2009-10-06 Thread Brent Fulgham
Hi Alex, On Oct 5, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Alex Milowski wrote: I'd like to work on this MathML project in conjunction with those of you who might be interested in using it in the near future. I'd also welcome any help. If you are interested, even as an observer, let me know. I am very

[webkit-dev] MathML Project - Interested?

2009-10-05 Thread Alex Milowski
I'd like to work on this MathML project in conjunction with those of you who might be interested in using it in the near future. I'd also welcome any help. If you are interested, even as an observer, let me know. -- --Alex Milowski The excellence of grammar as a guide is proportional to the

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Project - Interested?

2009-10-05 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Oct 5, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Alex Milowski wrote: I'd like to work on this MathML project in conjunction with those of you who might be interested in using it in the near future. I'd also welcome any help. If you are interested, even as an observer, let me know. I'm very interested in

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Project - Interested?

2009-10-05 Thread Kenneth Christiansen
I cannot say that I will be using it soon, but I really like the project and think that it can become very important for MathML and the web in general. As a Qt developer, it would also open the door for our users to integrate math into their applications. Cheers, Kenneth On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at

[webkit-dev] MathML Patch Review Request

2009-10-02 Thread Alex Milowski
I have a patch that supports a number of basic elements in MathML. The harder ones are not included in this patch: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29529 While this patch contains rendering code, the rendering isn't that complicated. I'd like to request that people who are familiar

[webkit-dev] MathML Acronym and the Style Guide

2009-09-11 Thread Alex Milowski
So, as an acronym, MathML is somewhat strange in that it is camel case rather than all upper case. According to the style guide, all acronyms should be uppercase and that would make it MATHML. But that isn't the way MathML is usually used and referenced. It is always MathML (try a google

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Acronym and the Style Guide

2009-09-11 Thread David Levin
MML would be an acronym.MathML is a word math plus an acronym ML (markup language), so MathML seems like an appropriate casing. One small correction from your examples: String MathMLName(); should be String mathMLName(); dave On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Alex Milowski a...@milowski.org

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Acronym and the Style Guide

2009-09-11 Thread Alex Milowski
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:02 AM, David Levin le...@chromium.org wrote: MML would be an acronym. MathML is a word math plus an acronym ML (markup language), so MathML seems like an appropriate casing. One small correction from your examples: String MathMLName(); should be String mathMLName();

[webkit-dev] MathML Webkit

2009-07-29 Thread Chi-Wai Lau
Hello there, I am new here. I am interested in the current progress of integrating MathML in Webkit. Could somebody give me a quick update? Thanks in advance! Chi Wai ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org

Re: [webkit-dev] MathML Webkit

2009-07-29 Thread Eric Seidel
search bugs.webkit.orghttps://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3251 On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Chi-Wai Lau myonm...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there, I am new here. I am interested in the current progress of integrating MathML in Webkit. Could somebody give me a quick update? Thanks in