Re: [libreoffice-website] Too many tab entries or tab titles too long
Le 29/01/2011 23:29, Erich Christian a écrit : > Hi Jean-Baptiste, * > > Am 29.01.2011 22:49, schrieb Jean-Baptiste Faure: >> Le 29/01/2011 21:30, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : In Firefox 3.6 under Ubuntu I need to fix a minimal fontsize at 15 pt in order to obtain characters not too small. >>> Well - 15 pt as minimum fontsize is really, really big. >> The number is big, not the actual character size. :-) > :-) I use 16 as standard - and have to go up to 20pt to split the menu. > (same Firefox with Win Vista) Strange. I see on David's screencopy that the size of the font for "Home of the LibreOffice Productivity Suite" in the header is bigger than on my own screencopy. I do not understand why. >>> Sure you didn't apply a zoom factor in addition? Even with a font-size >>> of 17pt the (top) navbar still fits here.. >> Yes, no zoom. > Did you try ctrl + 0 (zero) to be sure? just curious... cause I trapped > myself shortly thinking the same... ;-) Yes, I did ctrl+0 and checked with and without "zoom text only". Same problem with last beta of FF4 Best regards JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Styling of website menu broken
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Ivan M. wrote: > Hi David, all, > > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:35 AM, David Nelson wrote: >> Hi, :-) >> >> I renamed it "Nabble" as a quick fix, but really the CSS needs fixing, >> as you say. > > I've emailed Christian the CSS/image fix. However, if at all possible, > please try to structure the website in a way that doesn't require a > two-line secondary navigation (I know this is difficult since we rely > on the default system sans-serif font). > > Regards, > Ivan. I am sure I missed this discussion, but what is the reasoning not to use drop down suckerfish menus? Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Styling of website menu broken
Hi David, all, On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:35 AM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi, :-) > > I renamed it "Nabble" as a quick fix, but really the CSS needs fixing, > as you say. I've emailed Christian the CSS/image fix. However, if at all possible, please try to structure the website in a way that doesn't require a two-line secondary navigation (I know this is difficult since we rely on the default system sans-serif font). Regards, Ivan. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] pronunciation of Libre
Hello, On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > HI *, > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Narayan Aras wrote: >> Specifically- >> we should put the correct pronunciation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA) >> at our website and wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libreoffice). >> We should also put a sound file at both these sites for those who can't read >> the punctuation properly. > > I'm no expert in IPA, but I'd say it is /libʁə ˈɔfɪs/ > > ciao > Christian > Me either, but the above looks right. By the way, I just checked my post to the Google Translate group and there hasn't been any activity (yet?). Also by the way, I played around with Google and it turns out that if you separate the "Libre" from the "Office" and translate in the opposite direction then the Google algorithm gets it right: http://translate.google.com/#en|fr|Libre In other words, a tiny tweak like this might be something else to consider, perhaps a temporary solution until everybody is organized with translations, sound files, notations,... Cheers, Jay -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] pronunciation of Libre
HI *, On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Narayan Aras wrote: > Specifically- > we should put the correct pronunciation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA) at > our website and wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libreoffice). > We should also put a sound file at both these sites for those who can't read > the punctuation properly. I'm no expert in IPA, but I'd say it is /libʁə ˈɔfɪs/ ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
RE: [libreoffice-website] pronunciation of Libre
Hi all, > From: christ...@dogmatux.com > Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:37:54 +0100 > I'm quite late, but nevertheless ... The original thread starter was > about the FAQ section and a reference to Google how to pronounce > "LibreOffice". > > When I started the LibO branding pages, I also added what other people > discussed so far; some time ago. You'll find recordings for LibreOffice > (unfortunately, to different speakers) here: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice > > But maybe a good reminder ... Florian, you once talked about a > professional speaker who might help us. Is there any chance to ask him > to provide a "LibreOffice" sound recording that we can make available on > the branding pages and on the website. What do you think? Branding pages are too obscure a place to be even noticed. Most users will not be interested in branding. So placing the file won't serve the purpose. This is more like introducing ourselves at the first meeting. ("Hi! I am Christoph.") That's a clue to the other guy about how to address you: Christoph or Chris, or anything YOU prefer. Similarly, the Home page is the best place to introduce the "LibreOffice" sound. (In the form of (a) sound file AND (b) the pronunciation key) No visitor will miss it. Don't forget the WikiPedia: It can spread the correct pronunciation like wildfire! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pronunciation_respelling_key @Sound file: How about using a text-to-speech engine? Since the "Libre" word is not English, it may not be pronounced well. You can have to change the spelling several times till the engine pronounces it correctly. It would be better if the sound file contains a female and a male voice repeating the name. Some people (especially aged 40+) have difficulty in hearing a particular frequency range. This will help them. Of course, a single sound file serves all websites around the World. We can make it available (CC license) to Wikipedia. Also plan to distribute it to non-affiliated host sites that review/compare/rate/host software. (Some important examples: cnet.com, download.com, alternativeto.net, etc.) @pronunciation keys for the non-English languages: I think Sophie would be the best person to organize this volunteers working on each non-English website. Regards, Narayan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CSS Styles for Website (Was: Problem with CSS)
Hi Christoph, all, On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 6:30 AM, Christoph Noack wrote: > Hi Ivan, hi all! > > Thanks for the CSS (Creating Superior Styles). > > Am Samstag, den 29.01.2011, 07:53 +1300 schrieb Ivan M.: >> For general highlighting, the green (or blue) style >> should be used. > > Yep. And by the way, also for the links on the page :-) You mean blue links? If so, sure! I think they'd add some nice color variety to the website. Would #1C99E0 be OK (middle blue from color table)? >> One option might be to use the relevant colorful box >> for pages pertaining to Writer, Calc, Draw, etc, but since they are >> shared with other styles (e.g. impress colors are used for an error >> notice), this might not be such a good idea from a UX point of view. >> Maybe Christoph can weigh in briefly? > > I can ... let's start with the criticism :-) I had a look at the styles, > and I consider them a bit dark (low liminance contrast) when it comes to > text vs. background. Is there any chance to make them a bit lighter? I > know, you seem to have use the lightest colors, but ... I could make them a little lighter (e.g. by putting a 10-20% transparent white rectangle over the screenshot in an image editor and taking the new color values) > And one CSS-newby question: is there any chance to apply a vertical > gradient to these boxes, or is a solid color required? Yes, but no in some cases. That doesn't help, does it? :) I'll start by noting that one of the advantages of these colorful styles is that they can be combined with an optional icon. However, this becomes a disadvantage if we want a vertical gradient. A few examples of HTML code with the current styles: Hello World gives us a green box, and HelloWorld gives us a green box with a tick, and HelloWorld gives us a paragraph with only a tick. For this to work, the background-image CSS property can only be defined once (i.e., no background image should be specified for Greenbox, Bluebox, etc) as most browsers (even many recent ones) can only display a single background image per HTML element. The background image is reserved for the (optional) icons. That means we can't achieve a vertical gradient through a background image (which would be compatible with most browsers) as well as having optional icons without adding extra HTML elements - e.g. Hello World - this would be a small pain for content editors. In this example, the vertical gradient background would be assigned to the element, and the icon would then be assigned to the element. It is certainly possible to create a vertical background gradient with CSS3 [1], but it would only work in a few (mostly "cutting-edge") browsers. If you see this as an extra/optional enhancement (that is, you think the current single background color implementation, which is compatible with virtually all browsers, is OK), then I have no problem with adding some nice CSS3 stuff (as we did on the OOo website with rounded corners for the login box). Hopefully that made sense :). > Concerning the colors and the applications ... if we would use full > color coding for the applications, we might also run into trouble when > it comes to LibreOffice (the application, either gray or green) and Calc > (green). So if we use slight color coding, then I do see no problems. How about we lighten the colors (to improve display on older browsers) and then implement CSS3 gradients as an extra? > For example, having only dark strokes for the applications, or using the > (thanks to Paulo now great looking) document icons, then we don't run > into trouble. In this case, we also differentiate by intensity (intense > = application, slight = new CSS styles). Oh yes, definitely - I'd like to create some styles with the new icons. Unfortunately I won't have time to do this until Wednesday (if anyone wants to step in and do this, by all means go ahead) - but I hope we can come to a consensus regarding the things discussed above by then. After that, I'd like to make a second round of improvements to these new styles and hopefully make them final (for the short term at least). > You remember this? > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tTTNPiZLsHQQ8pzpSGA6Iw?feat=directlink Of course :). Just as well we didn't implement that, otherwise it would have become out of date by 2010 (considering the OOo 3.2.1 icons). Regards, Ivan. [1] http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/css3_linear_gradients/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
RE: [libreoffice-website] Silverstripe and the view of mad changes.
+1 I have wanted to stop that, in fact. For regular visitors, the "recent changes" should be a good start point. There is actually NO need for those emails. I have not found a way to stop that. -Narayan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] Website team statistics for membership committee
With the membership committee being formed there has been discussion about extracting hard data from the contribution systems which will allow the selection of members being accepted into The Document Foundation. With this in mind I think we should put together a list of Silverstripe users with a 'commit number' of articles on the site. I will be able to make a similar system for the Drupal development to capture those users who have contributed there. The wiki submission list is available already throught the LibreOffice credits page. Are there any other statistics which will allow the membership committee to assess the contribution of the website team? Is it possible/should we collate these numbers into a single submission to the membership committee? Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] Silverstripe and the view of mad changes.
Hi all, little question. I receive a lot of this E-Mails lately "CMS Workflow: LibreOffice - Page: ", but is it just me or even if you change something you have to know the old version of the text?! It realy sucks that it's not clear where on Silverstripe i can see the direct changes. Houbsi -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Dutch site on silverstripe - some more probs
Hi , Christian Lohmaier wrote (29-01-11 00:13) If needed, I'll be glad to make use of your kind offering ;-) OK, don't hesitate to ask for assistance if you get stuck. For the moment, we (Joren & me) seem pretty much working in the right direction :-) After the first - too rushed start - I took a more quiet look, used the info, learned by correcting initial mistakes ;-) Each day small part, will bring us a long way in a fortnight :-) Again thanks for the help, pointers etc, Cor -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Too many tab entries or tab titles too long
Hi Jean-Baptiste, * Am 29.01.2011 22:49, schrieb Jean-Baptiste Faure: > Le 29/01/2011 21:30, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : >>> In Firefox 3.6 under Ubuntu I need to fix a minimal fontsize at 15 pt in >>> order to obtain characters not too small. >> Well - 15 pt as minimum fontsize is really, really big. > The number is big, not the actual character size. :-) :-) I use 16 as standard - and have to go up to 20pt to split the menu. (same Firefox with Win Vista) >> Sure you didn't apply a zoom factor in addition? Even with a font-size >> of 17pt the (top) navbar still fits here.. > Yes, no zoom. Did you try ctrl + 0 (zero) to be sure? just curious... cause I trapped myself shortly thinking the same... ;-) cheers Erich -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Too many tab entries or tab titles too long
Le 29/01/2011 21:30, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : > Hi Jean-Baptiste, *, > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure > wrote: >> In Firefox 3.6 under Ubuntu I need to fix a minimal fontsize at 15 pt in >> order to obtain characters not too small. > Well - 15 pt as minimum fontsize is really, really big. The number is big, not the actual character size. :-) > Sure you didn't apply a zoom factor in addition? Even with a font-size > of 17pt the (top) navbar still fits here.. Yes, no zoom. Is it possible to make the height of the second navbar function of the number of lines? Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] Very high header with IE 7 & 6 - please help with the css (was:website header looks very high)
Hi Bernhard, *, On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Dr. Bernhard Dippold wrote: > Chrisian Lohmaier wrote: > > At first: IE version is probably IE7 on Citrix. > Local versions have been updated to IE8, but if I download the wrongly > formatted page in the Citrix session as webarchive (.mht), it reads > "saved with Internet Explorer 7" OK, when choosing IE 7 on the netrenderer service, it shows the same result as in your screenshot - but as I don't have access to IE 7, I myself cannot help to fix it. (again the shot for reference: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Mainpage_high_heading.PNG ) > There is an error message at the bottom of the page: > Zeile: 14 > Zeichen: 822 > Fehler: Object doesn't support this property or method > Code: 0 > URL: http://www.libreoffice.org This is not from the sourcecode itself, but probably triggered by one of the javascript files, so I doubt it is the reason for the bad rendering ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Too many tab entries or tab titles too long
Hi Jean-Baptiste, *, On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: > > In Firefox 3.6 under Ubuntu I need to fix a minimal fontsize at 15 pt in > order to obtain characters not too small. Well - 15 pt as minimum fontsize is really, really big. Sure you didn't apply a zoom factor in addition? Even with a font-size of 17pt the (top) navbar still fits here.. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] $SubsiteList in subsite
Am 29.01.2011 20:51, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: >> However it seems to me, that using the function $SubsiteList in the >> source code does not work. It just displays "$SubsiteList" instead >> of listing the sites. > You also have to use the "SubsitePage" page-type for the replacement to apply. Thanks, Christian! (DachtIchMirSchonSowas) :-) -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] $SubsiteList in subsite
Hi Stefan, On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Stefan Weigel wrote: > > However it seems to me, that using the function $SubsiteList in the > source code does not work. It just displays "$SubsiteList" instead > of listing the sites. > > What´s the problem here? Or who is the problem? (Me??) ;-) You also have to use the "SubsitePage" page-type for the replacement to apply. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CSS Styles for Website (Was: Problem with CSS)
Hi Christian, On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:59 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Michael Wheatland > wrote: >> I have just noticed that the DIV style Excerpt ("Attention-Quote") >> requires more margin. The quote images overlap the text beside it. > > Well yes, this is what I wrote as well "The spacing on the quotes one > needs some tweaking, [...]" Yes, sorry I missed that. Please change the left padding on p.excerpt to 40px instead of 20px so that the style is: .typography p.excerpt { width: 200px; margin-bottom: 0; padding: 0 0 0 40px; display: block; float: right; color: #777; font-style: italic; text-align: left; } That should improve the spacing; obviously the CSS has changed substantially between the time I made the static test and now :) >> Also, would it be possible to set the default image styles, left align >> and right align, to have vspace=15 and hspace=15 ? > > No, vspace and hspace are both obsolete/non-conformant with html5 > http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#non-conforming-features +1. Michael, please use margin or padding CSS to achieve the same result (e.g. ) Regards, Ivan. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] LO 3.3 appears to be a winner!
I recently (finally) got around to downloading libreO at 3.3. I'm elated to say that first pass thru, I find several annoyances and bugs and workarounds to be fixed! Nary a bug noticed! Of course, I was selfishly looking to see how it did against OO.o 3.3 but I've decided not to bother with it in view of all the things going on and my complete lack of understanding the OO vs LO situations. All I know is that, barring a show-stopping bug, I may now be able to premanently dispose of MSO and I really appreciate that! Another donation is definitely in order! HTH, Twayne` -- Newsgroups are great places to get assistance. But always verify important information with other sources to be certain you have a clear understanding of it and that it is accurate. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] Re: SPAM
In news:1296245514.10211.3.camel@sybil-gnome, drew typed: > On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 13:19 -0600, Dave Johnson wrote: >> block the ip.. > > Hi David > > Can't agree with that. You end up blocking many other > people (almost always) then just the poster - banning an ip > address is ONLY acceptable in the most dire of > circumstances, IMO of course. Blocking an IP will only work if the offender has a static IP and it never changes; which almost no one has compared to the # of IPs being assigned at any one time. HTH, Twayne` > Drew > >> >> Dave Johnson >> >> On Jan 28, 2011 11:12 AM, "drew" >> wrote: >> >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Babysitting_Jobs_In_Texas >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >> website+h...@libreoffice.org >> List archive: >> http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All >> posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Too many tab entries or tab titles too long
Le 29/01/2011 19:29, David Nelson a écrit : > Hi, :-) > > Strange. :-( > > It works for me... > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/2/29/Screenshot-Home_%C2%BB_LibreOffice_-_Mozilla_Firefox.png > > David Nelson > Hi, And for "Get involved", is it correct ? I obtain the same view as you with a fontsize of 14pt. But not with 15pt. Another issue : clic Developers tab => page is correct but it is "Get involved" tab which is selected. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] $SubsiteList in subsite
Hi, in order to avoid the automatic text "Available translations of this page: * German" at http://www.libreoffice.org/international-sites/ I am willing to unpublish the SubsitesVirtualPage and create a separate page with the corresponding content in the german subsite. However it seems to me, that using the function $SubsiteList in the source code does not work. It just displays "$SubsiteList" instead of listing the sites. What´s the problem here? Or who is the problem? (Me??) ;-) Herzliche Grüße Stefan Weigel -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Styling of website menu broken
Hi, :-) On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 02:34, Stefan Weigel wrote: > Also see: > http://go.mail-archive.com/K76jahCoRLmek7CwdtJY9JPSGA8= Yes, I saw and already responded. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-website] Website header looks very high
Hi Christian, * Chrisian Lohmaier wrote: > Hi Bernhard, *, > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Dr. Bernhard Dippold > wrote: > > > > I don't konw if this is browser specific, but our header look very high, > > when I browse to our website (any page on http://www.libreoffice.org) > > with IE 8 here at work. > > Can not reproduce with chromium or firefox webkit and opera - did it > work for you before? I don't really know. I'm quite sure I looked at the LibO website some time ago, but I can't remember if it was before the new theme. But now I had a closer look: At first: IE version is probably IE7 on Citrix. Local versions have been updated to IE8, but if I download the wrongly formatted page in the Citrix session as webarchive (.mht), it reads "saved with Internet Explorer 7" The local version (IE8) works fine, only in the Citrix version doesn't allow to put the text at the side of the image. There is an error message at the bottom of the page: Zeile: 14 Zeichen: 822 Fehler: Object doesn't support this property or method Code:0 URL: http://www.libreoffice.org I'm not allowed to look at the source code, I can't open the help index to find out the version number of IE and if I save it locally, line breaks are added - cant find line 14 with more than 822 characters. Sorry - but this system might be very special... Thanks for caring! Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Styling of website menu broken
Hi, :-) I renamed it "Nabble" as a quick fix, but really the CSS needs fixing, as you say. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Styling of website menu broken
Hi, Am 29.01.2011 19:24, schrieb David Nelson: >> In short, look at this: >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/6/60/Bildschirmfoto-1.png > > Should we just rename "Mailing List Interface" as "Nabble"? For me it's > not a very communicative name, but it's a quick and dirty fix for the > problem... We still would run into problems, whenever it comes to a line wrap in the menu. Also see: http://go.mail-archive.com/K76jahCoRLmek7CwdtJY9JPSGA8= Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Too many tab entries or tab titles too long
Hi, :-) Strange. :-( It works for me... http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/2/29/Screenshot-Home_%C2%BB_LibreOffice_-_Mozilla_Firefox.png David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Styling of website menu broken
Hi, :-) On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 02:14, Stefan Weigel wrote: > I just added another issue to > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Development > > In short, look at this: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/6/60/Bildschirmfoto-1.png Should we just rename "Mailing List Interface" as "Nabble"? For me it's not a very communicative name, but it's a quick and dirty fix for the problem... David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] Styling of website menu broken
Hi, FYI: I just added another issue to http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Development In short, look at this: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/6/60/Bildschirmfoto-1.png Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] pronunciation of Libre
Hi Jay, hi Florian! I'm quite late, but nevertheless ... The original thread starter was about the FAQ section and a reference to Google how to pronounce "LibreOffice". When I started the LibO branding pages, I also added what other people discussed so far; some time ago. You'll find recordings for LibreOffice (unfortunately, to different speakers) here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice But maybe a good reminder ... Florian, you once talked about a professional speaker who might help us. Is there any chance to ask him to provide a "LibreOffice" sound recording that we can make available on the branding pages and on the website. What do you think? Am Freitag, den 28.01.2011, 07:27 -0500 schrieb G. Jay Kerns: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Narayan Aras wrote: > > > >> Is IPA limited to only Latin-based languages? > >> What phonetic methods are used in non-Latin scripts (e.g. Cyrillic, Hindi)? > > > > Sorry- I quoted "Hindi" by mistake- The Devnagari script is inherently > > phonetic. > > Ignore that and think of any other non-Latin scripts that are NOT phonetic. > > > > -- > > Many thanks to Narayan and others for responding. I am glad to hear > that Google wasn't right. I've documented some recent "fun experience": http://luxate.blogspot.com/2010/12/interviews-and-lost-in-translation.html [...] > In this spirit, I posted to the Google Translate development group > about this issue. I'm not sure how optimistic I am about LibreOffice > getting a correction, but maybe LibreOffice's high profile new release > together with the aligned missions of both LibreOffice and (some of) > Google might bring more attention to the issue than what it might > ordinarily receive. Cool & Thanks! Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CSS Styles for Website (Was: Problem with CSS)
Hi Ivan, hi all! Thanks for the CSS (Creating Superior Styles). Am Samstag, den 29.01.2011, 07:53 +1300 schrieb Ivan M.: > For general highlighting, the green (or blue) style > should be used. Yep. And by the way, also for the links on the page :-) > One option might be to use the relevant colorful box > for pages pertaining to Writer, Calc, Draw, etc, but since they are > shared with other styles (e.g. impress colors are used for an error > notice), this might not be such a good idea from a UX point of view. > Maybe Christoph can weigh in briefly? I can ... let's start with the criticism :-) I had a look at the styles, and I consider them a bit dark (low liminance contrast) when it comes to text vs. background. Is there any chance to make them a bit lighter? I know, you seem to have use the lightest colors, but ... And one CSS-newby question: is there any chance to apply a vertical gradient to these boxes, or is a solid color required? Concerning the colors and the applications ... if we would use full color coding for the applications, we might also run into trouble when it comes to LibreOffice (the application, either gray or green) and Calc (green). So if we use slight color coding, then I do see no problems. For example, having only dark strokes for the applications, or using the (thanks to Paulo now great looking) document icons, then we don't run into trouble. In this case, we also differentiate by intensity (intense = application, slight = new CSS styles). You remember this? http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tTTNPiZLsHQQ8pzpSGA6Iw?feat=directlink This mockup worked okay when mixing the OOo website colors, and the application specific colors. Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-website] Deploy SilverStripe for documentfoundation.org
Hi Bernhard, hi Ivan, David, Mike, ... :-) Am Samstag, den 29.01.2011, 12:11 +0100 schrieb Dr. Bernhard Dippold: > Hi David, Ivan, all > > > Hi Ivan, :-) > > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 06:34, Ivan M. wrote: > > > +1 from me on that point - if we agree on a color, I'd be happy to do it. > > > > I'd leave you to choose the color. > > I would not use a different main color on the TDF page at this stage of > development. > > As long as TDF hosts mainly LibreOffice, their tight relation should be not > only > shown by the same logo, but by the same color language. I remember the recent discussion of changing/refining the LibreOffice branding and the logo. So if there will be changes, I guess that the logo is more related to TDF than LibreOffice ... so let's keep the general branding, I'd say. However, if it is about making obvious that users changed the page, then small tweaks might be sufficient. If we consider the "competition", I'm happy if people are aware of the close relationship between TDF and LibreOffice - instead of appearing similar to OpenOffice.org, Microsoft Office, ... :-) > If it would be possible, what would you think of inverting the navigation > (dark green > or black text on light green background) as a means to differ between the > sites, > while staying green in the main concept? Good idea - worth a try! Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Localization page on the site
Hi Rimas, :-) On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 00:08, Rimas Kudelis wrote: > Looks better, you missed the fact that "NL teams" abbreviation now appears > before it's being explained. :) Also, I think the two paragraphs could > probably be merged, but that's not really necessary. :) I also don't see MY > favourite offline translation tool (Virtaal) mentioned, but you surely can't > please everyone. :)) All fixed. ;-) (except the paragraph merge - preferred not to). > By the way, here's a totally unrelated quote from today's IRC: > Mabian: irc://freenode.net/documentfoundation does not connect using > chatzilla > Mabian: irc://chat.freenode.net/documentfoundation does Fixed on various pages. Thanks for the heads-up about this. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: Re: Re: [libreoffice-website] I want to get involved
On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 17:10 +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > H Kristoffer, *, > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:20 PM, kristoffer.hansen > wrote: > > Sorry. I meant user things and so on. For example if we need some kind of > > testimonials, I could help integrate it with a DB - and maybe with the > > forum if we wanted that. > Hi Kristoffer, You can find the libreoffice forum at: http://libreofficeforum.org The owner of the forum is happy to support still additional languages, if someone is willing to take on the task of translation and moderation for such. Best wishes, Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] Too many tab entries or tab titles too long
Hi, In Firefox 3.6 under Ubuntu I need to fix a minimal fontsize at 15 pt in order to obtain characters not too small. With such kind of fontsize tab titles do not fit on one line. The result is not readable : http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Capture-LibO_TooManyTabEntries.png. So, please, choose tab titles shorter or use less tabs Best regards JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Localization page on the site
Hi David! 2011.01.29 12:21, David Nelson rašė: On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 17:40, Rimas Kudelis wrote: 1) I find it a bit awkward that the LibO localization is pushed to the last paragraph, and is preceded by the L10n of documentation, website, and marketing material. IMO, localization of the application should be the first and foremost thing in that list. OK, fixed. Take a look now. ;-) Looks better, you missed the fact that "NL teams" abbreviation now appears before it's being explained. :) Also, I think the two paragraphs could probably be merged, but that's not really necessary. :) I also don't see MY favourite offline translation tool (Virtaal) mentioned, but you surely can't please everyone. :)) 2) Is a construction "as regards something" actually used in English? I've never seen or heard such construction before, so it looks to me like someone's imperfect English. IMO, the two occurences of this could be replaced by simply a word "regarding" or something like that. Yes, "as regards something" is fine. I'm happy to have just broadened your English. ;-) Hehe, thanks for broadening it. :) Though I still can't get used to "as regards sth"... By the way, here's a totally unrelated quote from today's IRC: Mabian: irc://freenode.net/documentfoundation does not connect using chatzilla Mabian: irc://chat.freenode.net/documentfoundation does you may want to fix this. ;) Best regards, Rimas -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: Re: Re: [libreoffice-website] I want to get involved
H Kristoffer, *, On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:20 PM, kristoffer.hansen wrote: > Sorry. I meant user things and so on. For example if we need some kind of > testimonials, I could help integrate it with a DB - and maybe with the forum > if we wanted that. For forums, we won't create yet another one as there are already enough user-focused forums.. And regarding database-integration: the silverstripe CMS has a nice design, so creating dataobjects, etc is fairly straightforward. To get an idea have a look at the basic example here: http://doc.silverstripe.org/old/recipes:example_of_quotes_on_a_page i.e. for use within silverstripe, you don't need to deal with the database itself. That being said: the developers/localizers would love to see a system that allows to query only for the UI strings (think of opengrok only for the stings displayed in the UI) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks#Web_improvements and of course they'd love to see a nice interface to the bugtracker. (also mentioned on the page). If that are things for you, then please go ahead :-) the other point that is mentioned is to "spice up" the download page that now only features the downloads as links, but that is more a question of applying the corresponding javascript, thus might not be challenging enough :-)) ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-website] Screenshot sizes [was: Introduction - Daniel Neel]
Hi David, *, On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 4:09 PM, David Nelson wrote: > > When I've inserted a screenshot in a page, I've also insert a page > containing the enlarged screenshot. This way, people who click on > screenshots land in a site page with the graphic, rather than a > browser window with no nice presentation. > > It gives a higher-quality UX in my very humble opinion. And what does this have to do with the user creating and uploading the scaled-down screenshots compared to having silverstripe create the scaled-down versions? > So, in that case, you don't take advantage of this feature of > SilverStripe. What are your comments on that? Yes, you don't but using the image on different pages is in no way related to the topic, is it? You upload image image.png in 800x600 once, and that is the only version of the image you would upload. On the features page, you insert it in a smaller size, (400x300) - but instead of also uploading the screenshot in that size, just use the width/height controls in the insert image task pane. Silverstripe then creates a scaled down copy by itself. e.g. http://www.libreoffice.org/assets/fi-screenshots/FI-LibOMath.png is the original one, the one that was uploaded. While in a page the image was inserted with 300x255, thus silverstripe did create a scaled-down copy: http://www.libreoffice.org/assets/fi-screenshots/_resampled/resizedimage300225-FI-LibOMath.png If in another page you would use it in 400x, then it would create that size as well. Of course nobody is forced to use that feature, and in some cases it might be better to create a completely different image in a different size (using differently sized fonts to begin with or similar), but generally it is not needed. If you're referring to having the original image on a seperate page as opposed to using colorbox to display it in a popup on the same page, then that's a matter of taste as well, isn't it? ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Dutch site on silverstripe - some more probs
Hi Cor, *, On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: > Hi Christian, *, > > Thanks for info below. Does it make sense if I add it somewhere here > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Development ?? I guess I'll add it to the https://website.libreoffice.org/silverstripe/ sites that I started for photoshuffler and the proposed content styles. But feel free to leave a note on the wiki as well. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-website] Screenshot sizes [was: Introduction - Daniel Neel]
P.S. For an example, click on the screenshot in any page in the Features section. David Nelson On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 23:09, David Nelson wrote: > Hi, :-) > > When I've inserted a screenshot in a page, I've also insert a page > containing the enlarged screenshot. This way, people who click on > screenshots land in a site page with the graphic, rather than a > browser window with no nice presentation. > > It gives a higher-quality UX in my very humble opinion. > > So, in that case, you don't take advantage of this feature of > SilverStripe. What are your comments on that? > > David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-website] Screenshot sizes [was: Introduction - Daniel Neel]
Hi, :-) When I've inserted a screenshot in a page, I've also insert a page containing the enlarged screenshot. This way, people who click on screenshots land in a site page with the graphic, rather than a browser window with no nice presentation. It gives a higher-quality UX in my very humble opinion. So, in that case, you don't take advantage of this feature of SilverStripe. What are your comments on that? David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-website] Screenshot sizes [was: Introduction - Daniel Neel]
Hi Bernhard, *, On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Dr. Bernhard Dippold wrote: >> [...] >> I've done screenshots done at 400 x 300, which link to an enlargement >> at 800 x 600. That's not a rule, if you have other ideas, but you >> might take account of the conistency aspect. > > If I remember Christian right (please correct me, if I'm wrong), there is > no need to create two different screenshots, because SilverStripe > provides the smaller thumbnails on it's own, Exactly, you only need to provide different sizes if you're not happy with the quality of the scaled image that silverstripe creates. (But in that case, please guide me to the image). So just upload the original size, and when a different size should be inserted into the page, use the width and height settings in the right-hand image-insertion control within the CMS, this will create a resized copy automatically. > while opening the full > size image (yes, 800x600px should be reasonable) in an overlay. Adding overlay/slideshow is one of the next items on my toDo - I'm in favor of using colorbox for this, but if people have strong opinions about it, I would consider alternatives (but please state why your preferred solution should be preferred over colorbox) http://colorpowered.com/colorbox/ Reasons why I like colorbox: Small size, straightforward to use, keyboard navigation support without any fiddling around. And probably the most important wrt use in a CMS system: Behavior settings can be over-written without altering the ColorBox javascript file. (jquery based solutions are preferred) ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] access to cms
Hi Claudio, Am 29.01.2011 15:23, schrieb Claudio F Filho: > Em 29-01-2011 11:20, Erich Christian escreveu: >> and then tell me what kind of permissions are requested. > Erich, i has the same doubt that Cor and did the register in the site. I > am of brazilian community (pt-br). Can you give me access to help there? Not sure, what kind of doubts do you mean? You may login now at https://pt-br.libreoffice.org/admin/ cheers Erich -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] access to cms
Hi Joren, Am 29.01.2011 14:47, schrieb Joren De Cuyper: > Hi Erich, Cor, >> Pls register an account first >> https://www.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/register > Username: JorenDC >> and then tell me what kind of permissions are requested. > I would like to edit the Dutch localization website. You may login now at https://nl.libreoffice.org/admin/ cheers Erich -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] access to cms
Em 29-01-2011 12:23, Claudio F Filho escreveu: Erich, i has the same doubt that Cor and did the register in the site. I am of brazilian community (pt-br). Can you give me access to help there? Ops... Username: filhocf =) Claudio -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Website header looks very high
Hi Bernhard, *, On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Dr. Bernhard Dippold wrote: > > I don't konw if this is browser specific, but our header look very high, when > I browse to our website (any page on http://www.libreoffice.org) with IE 8 > here at work. Can not reproduce with chromium or firefox webkit and opera - did it work for you before? > Didn't share the logo and the description tag "Home of the LibreOffice > Productivity Suite" the same line in this design too? Yes, at least that is what it is intended (and still shows like this for me) Also looks ok when rendering with http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/index.php and IE8 ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] access to cms
Hi Erich, Cor, Pls register an account first https://www.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/register Username: JorenDC and then tell me what kind of permissions are requested. I would like to edit the Dutch localization website. Kind regards, Joren -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] access to cms
Hi Em 29-01-2011 11:20, Erich Christian escreveu: > and then tell me what kind of permissions are requested. Erich, i has the same doubt that Cor and did the register in the site. I am of brazilian community (pt-br). Can you give me access to help there? Thanks in advanced, Claudio -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CSS Styles for Website (Was: Problem with CSS)
Hi Michael, On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Michael Wheatland wrote: > I have just noticed that the DIV style Excerpt ("Attention-Quote") > requires more margin. The quote images overlap the text beside it. Well yes, this is what I wrote as well "The spacing on the quotes one needs some tweaking, [...]" > Also, would it be possible to set the default image styles, left align > and right align, to have vspace=15 and hspace=15 ? No, vspace and hspace are both obsolete/non-conformant with html5 http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#non-conforming-features (and while I see use for horizontal spacing, the vertical one is questionable - you usually want to align the image with the top of the text, don't you?) ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] access to cms
Hi Cor, Joren, Am 29.01.2011 13:14, schrieb Cor Nouws: > Joren (cc) would like to have CMS access for Dutch. Pls register an account first https://www.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/register and then tell me what kind of permissions are requested. Thanks Erich -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] access to cms
Hi *, Joren (cc) would like to have CMS access for Dutch. Thanks :-) Cor -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Website header looks very high
Hi Bernhard, Am 29.01.2011 11:55, schrieb Dr. Bernhard Dippold: Hi all, I don't konw if this is browser specific, but our header look very high, when I browse to our website (any page on http://www.libreoffice.org) with IE 8 here at work. See screenshot at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Mainpage_high_heading.PNG I use ie8 too, but there is no problem with it. The right line is exactly on the bottom line of "LibreOffice". k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-website] Deploy SilverStripe for documentfoundation.org
Hi David, Ivan, all > Hi Ivan, :-) > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 06:34, Ivan M. wrote: > > +1 from me on that point - if we agree on a color, I'd be happy to do it. > > I'd leave you to choose the color. I would not use a different main color on the TDF page at this stage of development. As long as TDF hosts mainly LibreOffice, their tight relation should be not only shown by the same logo, but by the same color language. If it would be possible, what would you think of inverting the navigation (dark green or black text on light green background) as a means to differ between the sites, while staying green in the main concept? Best regards Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-website] Screenshot sizes [was: Introduction - Daniel Neel]
Hi David, Daniel, all, > [...] > I've done screenshots done at 400 x 300, which link to an enlargement > at 800 x 600. That's not a rule, if you have other ideas, but you > might take account of the conistency aspect. If I remember Christian right (please correct me, if I'm wrong), there is no need to create two different screenshots, because SilverStripe provides the smaller thumbnails on it's own, while opening the full size image (yes, 800x600px should be reasonable) in an overlay. Best regards Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] Website header looks very high
Hi all, I don't konw if this is browser specific, but our header look very high, when I browse to our website (any page on http://www.libreoffice.org) with IE 8 here at work. See screenshot at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Mainpage_high_heading.PNG I can't compare it with other browsers here and I didn't notice it back at home with SeaMonkey on Ubuntu, but I just wanted to let you know. Didn't share the logo and the description tag "Home of the LibreOffice Productivity Suite" the same line in this design too? Can't remember... This high header moves navigation and content further down - forcing the user to scroll more and to look at the colorful navigation as main part of the page, retracting the eye from the real content below. I just wanted to let you know... Best regards Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Localization page on the site
Hi Rimas, :-) On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 17:40, Rimas Kudelis wrote: > 1) I find it a bit awkward that the LibO localization is pushed to the last > paragraph, and is preceded by the L10n of documentation, website, and > marketing material. IMO, localization of the application should be the first > and foremost thing in that list. OK, fixed. Take a look now. ;-) > 2) Is a construction "as regards something" actually used in English? I've > never seen or heard such construction before, so it looks to me like > someone's imperfect English. IMO, the two occurences of this could be > replaced by simply a word "regarding" or something like that. Yes, "as regards something" is fine. I'm happy to have just broadened your English. ;-) > 3) I'm not sure if "the language teams section of our wiki" link is needed, > provided that it's one of the pages in the L10n category, which is also > linked to from that list. On the other hand though, one link doesn't hurt... It's one of the resource links that Sophie includes in her introductory email to new localizers, apparently, and was included from information that she sent me some time ago and that I'd bookmarked for reference when I was drafting the page. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CSS Styles for Website (Was: Problem with CSS)
2011.01.29 11:33, Michael Wheatland rašė: On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Ivan M. wrote: Hi Michael, On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Michael Wheatland wrote: I have just noticed that the DIV style Excerpt ("Attention-Quote") requires more margin. The quote images overlap the text beside it. Can you provide an URL? It'd make it much easier to see what's wrong. https://website.libreoffice.org/silverstripe/styles-you-can-use/ In .typography p.excerpt: increase left padding to 40px? Rimas -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Localization page on the site
Hi David, a few notes on the L10n page: 1) I find it a bit awkward that the LibO localization is pushed to the last paragraph, and is preceded by the L10n of documentation, website, and marketing material. IMO, localization of the application should be the first and foremost thing in that list. 2) Is a construction "as regards something" actually used in English? I've never seen or heard such construction before, so it looks to me like someone's imperfect English. IMO, the two occurences of this could be replaced by simply a word "regarding" or something like that. 3) I'm not sure if "the language teams section of our wiki" link is needed, provided that it's one of the pages in the L10n category, which is also linked to from that list. On the other hand though, one link doesn't hurt... Regards, Rimas -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CSS Styles for Website (Was: Problem with CSS)
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Ivan M. wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Michael Wheatland > wrote: >> I have just noticed that the DIV style Excerpt ("Attention-Quote") >> requires more margin. The quote images overlap the text beside it. > > Can you provide an URL? It'd make it much easier to see what's wrong. https://website.libreoffice.org/silverstripe/styles-you-can-use/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] [libreoffice-website] ... Localization page on the site
Hi David, you wrote: > Hi Bernhard, :-) > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 17:13, Dr. Bernhard Dippold > wrote: > > Would it be possible to change the link behind "Design Team" > > Done. ;-) > Thanks! Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Localization page on the site
Hi Bernhard, :-) On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 17:13, Dr. Bernhard Dippold wrote: > Would it be possible to change the link behind "Design Team" Done. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Dutch site on silverstripe - some more probs
Hi Christian, *, Thanks for info below. Does it make sense if I add it somewhere here http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Development ?? Best, Cor Christian Lohmaier wrote (29-01-11 00:13) Hi Cor, *, On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: Christian Lohmaier wrote (28-01-11 23:36) On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Cor Nouwswrote: The page is of type "FaqsHolder" - and FaqsHolder pages display a summary of their child-FAQs - like on http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/faq/ (to also show the search form, insert "$SearchFaqsForm" into the content area Aha. Can I find somewhere which page types have to be used for what? Well, most should be self-explanatory - so Faqs-Holder to start a FAQs section (when using the FAQs modlue), they can be nested, like on the main page. The indivudual FAQs then have to be of thy FaqsPage (otherwise they won't be included in the Faq-Holder's summary and also not included in the FAQ-search) As mentioned, for the FaqsHolder, there is the special token "$SearchFaqsForm" that will insert the search form. Another special pages is the ErrorPage, any project should at least create one 404 error page, so that users will get a nice "page not found" message in their language. - Users hopefully will never the the other errors :-) Then there is the "DonatePage" type - the special token "$PayPalOOoDev" is replaced with a paypal form as shown here: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/donate/ The DownloadPage inserts the download table below the content The SubsiteList page has the special token "$SubsiteList" that will be replaced by the list of non-english subsites, like on http://www.libreoffice.org/international-sites/ The Redirector and (Subsite) Virtual pages are used to refer to other content, either by redirecting or by creating a virtual copy of the page UserDefinedForm is a page that can be used to create feedback forms or other simple forms (the spam-protector field will insert the recaptcha query) Nabble page is special purpose, it will include the nabble-version of the users-mailing list archive (http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-list-interface/) JSPage is not used, was (more or less by accident) copied over from the staging server) Folderpage same - is used by the libreofficebox - it is used to display a tree-like structure of files in assets (i.e. you select a folder, specify whether it should be listed recursively or not, and it will create a list from that - but styling of the list is missing in the current theme, and for the LO website, I don't see a specific use case) ForumHolder and Forum are not used, the only purpose of the forum module is to allow for people to register and modify their profile. If needed, I'll be glad to make use of your kind offering ;-) OK, don't hesitate to ask for assistance if you get stuck. ciao Christian -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Localization page on the site
Hi David, all, Just one remark to the content: Would it be possible to change the link behind "Design Team" (in: "If you need to work on aspects of the LibreOffice project's branding for localization needs, our Design team helps you meet your needs while staying within the project's graphic charter and copyright constraints.") from the subscribe mail (mailto:design+subscr...@libreoffice.org) to the Get-involved page? -> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/ux-visual-designers/ (or just a relative link) This would allow people to learn a bit more about the team, possibly leading to an improved interactive relation between designers in the l10n groups and the Design Team. Thanks in advance! ... and about your link to the page: David Nelson wrote: > Hi, :-) > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 16:15, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: > > It seems you forgot the link in note [1] > > Toutes mes excuses, monsieur. ;-) > > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/localizers/ If you don't refer to the secure page, you will not be bothered by the tweaked certificate: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/localizers/ Best regards Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Revisiting the Information Architecture
Hi Michael, hi Charles, David! Am Samstag, den 29.01.2011, 16:16 +0930 schrieb Michael Wheatland: > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Charles Marcus > wrote: > > On 2011-01-27 3:36 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: > >> Michael Wheatland wrote (27-01-11 09:05) [...] > > I'm sorry, but I really, really, *really* don't think that an email list > > is the proper 'forum' for discussing things like this. How can this be > > an effective medium for working out complex details for this kind of > > thing? Heck, the 'Talk' page on a wiki page would be better than a mail > > list thread. [...] The problem of grouping things pops up regularly, I think. And there might be different ways to solve that. First, an on-list discussion might be really helpful to work out the design constraints, otherwise we'll might lost in endless discussions. For example, there are usual "hints" like: try to reduce the number of menu items to eight or below. Or, we have to support browsers A, B, and C ... bla bla bla :-) Then you have the "design ingredients", like the kind of menu (no drop-downs, design permits four sub-menu levels...). Or the "target users", primarily target "end-users" (on front pages XYZ). Some of these decisions might be iterated, but it helps to focus in the very first step ... and also for all the other to come. A few days ago, I've already started to put together some thoughts that can be seen here ... http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Structure#Proposal_by_Christoph Does this sound reasonable? Might we continue with such stuff? And I (personally) started to collect some ideas for the IA, but this is far from mature ... and more urgent things are still waiting. > Maybe we should dedicate a conference call to the web architecture? > > Can you suggest any better way to allow people to express their > opinions on the page structures? Since, at the end, the IA is something our users are faced to, the IA is usually backed by some research - one of the methods is "card sorting": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_sorting Maybe there is a chance to apply it here - without adding too much effort. Therefore I CC our "agile usability" expert Björn. Any ideas? Do you have (maybe) access to some data the KDE project worked on for their infrastructure? Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Localization page on the site
Hi Christoph, :-) On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 16:52, Christoph Noack wrote: > just an assumption, but according to the change mails I get, this is the > latest version of the localizers page: > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/localizers/?stage=live > > David, is this correct? Erm, yes Why? Is it that bad? :-D Try this then: [1] [1] https://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/localizers David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Localization page on the site
Hi, :-) On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 16:15, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: > It seems you forgot the link in note [1] Toutes mes excuses, monsieur. ;-) https://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/localizers/ David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Localization page on the site
Hi Jean-Baptiste, just an assumption, but according to the change mails I get, this is the latest version of the localizers page: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/localizers/?stage=live David, is this correct? Cheers, Christoph Am Samstag, den 29.01.2011, 09:15 +0100 schrieb Jean-Baptiste Faure: > Le 29/01/2011 09:06, David Nelson a écrit : > > Hi Sophie, l10n people, :-) > > > > I've just posted a revised draft of the Localizers page [1] that > > hopefully takes account of the comments on the previous draft. > Hi David, > > It seems you forgot the link in note [1] > > JBF > > -- > Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Localization page on the site
Le 29/01/2011 09:06, David Nelson a écrit : > Hi Sophie, l10n people, :-) > > I've just posted a revised draft of the Localizers page [1] that > hopefully takes account of the comments on the previous draft. Hi David, It seems you forgot the link in note [1] JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Localization page on the site
Hi Sophie, l10n people, :-) I've just posted a revised draft of the Localizers page [1] that hopefully takes account of the comments on the previous draft. While reading, please remember that this information primarily targets newcomers to the project, who may have little or no previous knowledge of localization within an OS project, or the LibreOffice project's policies in that respect. But I have cut-out some text that can usefully go in a dedicated localization FAQ on the site. (If the rest of the page has your basic approval then we can create the said FAQ and add a link to it in the page.) However, all the key links needed by existing localizers are provided in list form at the top of the page (please give me a heads-up if I missed any important ones). To those of you who may feel that the content I've written is "text, text, text", please remember that the entire site needs the loving attention of people from the Design team, as regards providing graphics, prettying-up the presentation with nice text boxes, etc. Then it will all look less boring. So the same goes for this page, too. What I've done is very much a "version 1.0" of the site, and it's all up for further development - but at least the site *does exist* now, which wasn't the case before... If you want changes to the draft, give me a heads-up and I'll apply them, or else use your account on the site (or ask me or others for one) and jump in and have a go yourself. ;-) HTH. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***