Re: [weewx-user] Re: WU API ?

[John Patrick Hoke]

According to the WU support thread the free tier is gone (no new signups)
and existing will go away at some point



On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 12:05 AM Craig Thom  wrote:

> The free API key is good for a maximum of 10 calls per minute and 500 per
> day.  That's not enough for commercial use, or at least commercial use that
> could justify paying for a higher tier.
>
> On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 4:01:56 AM UTC-4, Andrew Milner wrote:
>>
>> I shall wait and see.  I would expect them to continue to allow use of
>> api for your own weather station, but I can understand the reasons for
>> limitations (as there always have been) on the uses which used to be part
>> of other plans.  I am sure there are many 'users' who are really commercial
>> who are ripping off WU with there requests for data and trying to get the
>> data for free when they shouldn't be.
>>
>> So I'm not panicking just yet
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 18 May 2018 10:49:36 UTC+3, gjr80 wrote:
>>>
>>> Andrew,
>>>
>>> You need to log out of WU, for non-WU user that page was the entry into
>>> the WU API, for logged in WU users it takes you to your analytics page. The
>>> non-WU users it now gives a blurb about The Weather Company 'series of data
>>> packages'. They are light on detail and whilst the don't indicate they are
>>> paid for they certainly don't indicate they are free either.
>>>
>>> Other links of interest:
>>>
>>> The wxforum.net thread:  http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=34403.0
>>>
>>> Thread in WU API Community forum:
>>> https://apicommunity.wunderground.com/weatherapi/topics/weather-underground-api-changes
>>>
>>> See there is something in the API community thread about the smallest
>>> data package being $850 per month.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
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[weewx-user] Re: WU API ?

[Craig Thom]

The free API key is good for a maximum of 10 calls per minute and 500 per 
day.  That's not enough for commercial use, or at least commercial use that 
could justify paying for a higher tier.

On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 4:01:56 AM UTC-4, Andrew Milner wrote:
>
> I shall wait and see.  I would expect them to continue to allow use of api 
> for your own weather station, but I can understand the reasons for 
> limitations (as there always have been) on the uses which used to be part 
> of other plans.  I am sure there are many 'users' who are really commercial 
> who are ripping off WU with there requests for data and trying to get the 
> data for free when they shouldn't be.
>
> So I'm not panicking just yet
>
>
>
> On Friday, 18 May 2018 10:49:36 UTC+3, gjr80 wrote:
>>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> You need to log out of WU, for non-WU user that page was the entry into 
>> the WU API, for logged in WU users it takes you to your analytics page. The 
>> non-WU users it now gives a blurb about The Weather Company 'series of data 
>> packages'. They are light on detail and whilst the don't indicate they are 
>> paid for they certainly don't indicate they are free either.
>>
>> Other links of interest:
>>
>> The wxforum.net thread:  http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=34403.0
>>
>> Thread in WU API Community forum:  
>> https://apicommunity.wunderground.com/weatherapi/topics/weather-underground-api-changes
>>
>> See there is something in the API community thread about the smallest 
>> data package being $850 per month.
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: WU API ?

[John Patrick Hoke]

https://apicommunity.wunderground.com/weatherapi/topics/weather-underground-api-changes

And in the thread they confirm that you are going to have to pay to
retrieve (via API) the data your PWS provides ... I use WU data for other
projects (Home Automation for example) so if I cannot get at the data I am
providing ... well... I will provide it elsewhere and move away from WU

Its pretty conterproductive to do this on their part, if they are
monetizing the data, why cut off (piss off) your inbound data streams for
hyperlocal info

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 12:32 PM, vince  wrote:

> On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 2:35:22 AM UTC-7, JHoke wrote:
>>
>> Based on the below info, it looks like I will be sitting down to finally
>> write something to get the data from my local database to use for home
>> automation, irrigation, etc instead of the Wunderground API - i find it
>> rediculous to charge users to access the data they freely give but what do
>> I know ;(
>>
>> From their forum regarding a question if we will still have access to our
>> data via the API:
>>
>>
> Can you guys provide a couple links to the original announcements please
> ?  I couldn't find anything on their site.
>
> I saw some cryptic stuff saying WeatherBug was bought or something with
> references to CWOP and use of the term 'PWS', but each company overloads
> their terminology so much that it's hard to tell in layman's term what's
> going away or changing when.
>
> FWIW, I feed PWSweather/CWOP/WU using weewx, but use NWS for the forecast
> (although I have a WU API key that I used to play with in the past).
>
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[weewx-user] Re: WU API ?

[vince]

On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 2:35:22 AM UTC-7, JHoke wrote:
>
> Based on the below info, it looks like I will be sitting down to finally 
> write something to get the data from my local database to use for home 
> automation, irrigation, etc instead of the Wunderground API - i find it 
> rediculous to charge users to access the data they freely give but what do 
> I know ;(
>
> From their forum regarding a question if we will still have access to our 
> data via the API:
>
>
Can you guys provide a couple links to the original announcements please ? 
 I couldn't find anything on their site.

I saw some cryptic stuff saying WeatherBug was bought or something with 
references to CWOP and use of the term 'PWS', but each company overloads 
their terminology so much that it's hard to tell in layman's term what's 
going away or changing when.

FWIW, I feed PWSweather/CWOP/WU using weewx, but use NWS for the forecast 
(although I have a WU API key that I used to play with in the past).

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[weewx-user] Re: WU API ?

[JHoke]

Based on the below info, it looks like I will be sitting down to finally 
write something to get the data from my local database to use for home 
automation, irrigation, etc instead of the Wunderground API - i find it 
rediculous to charge users to access the data they freely give but what do 
I know ;(

>From their forum regarding a question if we will still have access to our 
data via the API:

 Tim Roche 
, 
Official Rep

   - 274 Posts 
   -  19 Reply Likes

You will no longer have access to the PWS data through the API.  You will 
however have access to the data on your PWS page if you click the table 
view, you will see a download option.

hope this helps
tim

On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 4:30:56 AM UTC-4, gjr80 wrote:
>
> I guess we are all aware of the issues that have plagued WU for some time. 
> I have stuck with them, uploading data and downloading various pieces of 
> data via their API, it's just kept on working for me. I noticed a post on 
> wxforum.net re WU no longer issuing API keys, I found this on WU.
>
> https://www.wunderground.com/weather/api/
>
> Maybe some folks more acquainted with WU/The Weather Company/The Weather 
> Channel might have more info. There is nothing I found to indicate the cost 
> of whatever replaces the API, when I followed the various links I just went 
> around in corporate double speak circles.
>
> Looking like the the forecast extension might need a version 4.
>
> Gary
>
>

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[weewx-user] Re: WU API ?

[Andrew Milner]

I have never used wu for forecast feed.  I do use it for previous day's 
data for my irrigation though, but could if push came to shove generate the 
water % from my own data rather than my data which I have uploaded.  But 
then again - it is using my own data which should not be affected anyway ……

for forecasting I use two other sites - meteoblue and windguru and just pop 
their forecasts into a frame on my site with no data download anyway.

avoids using wu (and their (un)availability) that way …..



On Friday, 18 May 2018 11:14:36 UTC+3, gjr80 wrote:
>
> Nobody is panicing. But when you take this with all of the other WU 
> shenanigans over the past year or two you would have to say the writing is 
> on the wall. I will be starting work on an alternate forecast feed for my 
> site. Something about failing to plan is planning to fail comes to mind.
>
> Gary
>

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[weewx-user] Re: WU API ?

[gjr80]

Nobody is panicing. But when you take this with all of the other WU shenanigans 
over the past year or two you would have to say the writing is on the wall. I 
will be starting work on an alternate forecast feed for my site. Something 
about failing to plan is planning to fail comes to mind.

Gary

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[weewx-user] Re: WU API ?

[Andrew Milner]

I shall wait and see.  I would expect them to continue to allow use of api 
for your own weather station, but I can understand the reasons for 
limitations (as there always have been) on the uses which used to be part 
of other plans.  I am sure there are many 'users' who are really commercial 
who are ripping off WU with there requests for data and trying to get the 
data for free when they shouldn't be.

So I'm not panicking just yet



On Friday, 18 May 2018 10:49:36 UTC+3, gjr80 wrote:
>
> Andrew,
>
> You need to log out of WU, for non-WU user that page was the entry into 
> the WU API, for logged in WU users it takes you to your analytics page. The 
> non-WU users it now gives a blurb about The Weather Company 'series of data 
> packages'. They are light on detail and whilst the don't indicate they are 
> paid for they certainly don't indicate they are free either.
>
> Other links of interest:
>
> The wxforum.net thread:  http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=34403.0
>
> Thread in WU API Community forum:  
> https://apicommunity.wunderground.com/weatherapi/topics/weather-underground-api-changes
>
> See there is something in the API community thread about the smallest data 
> package being $850 per month.
>
>
> Gary
>
>

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[weewx-user] Re: WU API ?

[gjr80]

Andrew,

You need to log out of WU, for non-WU user that page was the entry into the WU 
API, for logged in WU users it takes you to your analytics page. The non-WU 
users it now gives a blurb about The Weather Company 'series of data packages'. 
They are light on detail and whilst the don't indicate they are paid for they 
certainly don't indicate they are free either.

Other links of interest:

The wxforum.net thread:  http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=34403.0

Thread in WU API Community forum:  
https://apicommunity.wunderground.com/weatherapi/topics/weather-underground-api-changes

See there is something in the API community thread about the smallest data 
package being $850 per month.


Gary

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[weewx-user] Re: WU API ?

[Andrew Milner]

The link you posted just took me to MY analytics page where it said I had 
30 raindrops available and have used (ever) 0.  Since I do two daily 
uploads per day to fill in the gaps on WU I am clearly not using any 
raindrops, so unlikely to be hit by anything, and in fact appear to be only 
using 40 calls per day when 500 per day and 10 per minute are available 
under free stratus plan.

On Thursday, 17 May 2018 11:30:56 UTC+3, gjr80 wrote:
>
> I guess we are all aware of the issues that have plagued WU for some time. 
> I have stuck with them, uploading data and downloading various pieces of 
> data via their API, it's just kept on working for me. I noticed a post on 
> wxforum.net re WU no longer issuing API keys, I found this on WU.
>
> https://www.wunderground.com/weather/api/
>
> Maybe some folks more acquainted with WU/The Weather Company/The Weather 
> Channel might have more info. There is nothing I found to indicate the cost 
> of whatever replaces the API, when I followed the various links I just went 
> around in corporate double speak circles.
>
> Looking like the the forecast extension might need a version 4.
>
> Gary
>
>

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