Re: [whatwg] IPv4 parsing

2015-06-24 Thread timeless
The trailing dot actually had meaning, but in my periodic testing most commerce websites didn't handle it well. It didn't help that browsers never favored adding it. On a somewhat (user) hostile network, http://discover.com/ might go to http://discover.com.example.com/ this probably isn't what

Re: [whatwg] Input and spell check/keyboard settings

2015-06-24 Thread timeless
Florian Rivoal wrote: If a text input field has lang=foo, and your system has a (virtual) keyboard for language foo, I would expect that keyboard to be the one presented to you. The principle of least surprise argues against this. Most mobile phones support many more languages and keyboard

Re: [whatwg] Last Call: draft-ietf-appsawg-multipart-form-data-08.txt (Returning Values from Forms: multipart/form-data) to Proposed Standard

2015-06-24 Thread timeless
http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/cgi-bin/xml2rfc.cgi?url=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/masinter/multipart-form-data/master/multipart-form-data.xmlmodeAsFormat=html/asciitype=ascii Encoding considerations:Common use is BINARY. In limited use (or transports that restrict the encoding to 7BIT or

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Inline pronounce element

2014-06-08 Thread timeless
Tab wrote: This is already theoretically addressed by link rel=pronunciation, linking to a well-defined pronunciation file format. Nobody implements that, but nobody implements anything new either, of course. Brett wrote: I think it'd be a lot easier for sites, say along the lines of

Re: [whatwg] Drag-and-drop folders/files support with directory structure using DirectoryEntry

2011-11-15 Thread timeless
You could cheat by providing a 0 byte file folder/nul and define it to not be created. On Windows (dos), such a file is used to test for the existence of a directory, and it's illegal to create a file by that name. On 11/15/11, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:01

Re: [whatwg] keygen element

2011-10-21 Thread timeless
From memory the goal of specing the tag is to define how it's implemented in the while so that new UAs can read the spec and implement something compatible with existing UAs, content and servers. Suggesting anything that isn't what existing UAs does runs counter to this goal. On 10/20/11, Martin

Re: [whatwg] [MIME Sniffing] Editorial feedback

2011-10-04 Thread timeless
Comparisons between media types, as defined by MIME specifications, are done in an ASCII case-insensitive manner. [RFC2046] so, the problem is that your `note` here is ambiguous it's hard to understand that you're just saying `mime rfc says that mime comparisons are insensitive`, v. `this

[whatwg] [MIME Sniffing] Editorial feedback

2011-09-26 Thread timeless
Otherwise, if the octets in s starting at pos match any of the sequences of octets in the first column of the following table, then the user agent MUST follow the steps given in the corresponding cell in the second column of the same row. | What's the stray `|` character at the end of that

Re: [whatwg] Fixing undo on the Web - UndoManager and Transaction

2011-09-21 Thread timeless
There's nothing wrong with the idl specifying apply(DOMString reason); Reason will be for normal applications and reapply for reapply cases. That still gives you a truth value, and it gives something more meaningful to callees. On 9/21/11, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: So the argument

Re: [whatwg] relationship between Document and HTMLDocument

2011-08-11 Thread timeless
Partial interface [1] was added for the 12 July 2011 – LCWD. It was designed to replace Supplemental [2]. I think the beginning of it was in a thread on public-script-coord [3]. [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/WebIDL/#dfn-partial-interface [2]

Re: [whatwg] Form element invalid message

2011-07-28 Thread timeless
Your 13 example is a good argument against splitting between markup and script. If the minimum value is updated in the html but not the js, you get confused users. - I've seen the results of letting logic get out of sync from error reporting, it isn't pretty. On 7/28/11, Scott González

Re: [whatwg] PeerConnection, MediaStream, getUserMedia(), and other feedback

2011-07-16 Thread timeless
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Shwetank Dixit shweta...@opera.com wrote: Just like, just allowing the web app to use the camera as it is will not make sense, and presumably, user agents will implement a authorization by the user before the app gains access to the camera (something like 'This

Re: [whatwg] PeerConnection, MediaStream, getUserMedia(), and other feedback

2011-07-14 Thread timeless
I'd expect a web app to have no idea about device camera specifications and thus to not be able to properly specify a flash duration. I don't see how such a thing is valuable. If a user is in a movie theater, or a museum, it's quite likely they won't notice a web app is forcing a flash. Let the

Re: [whatwg] Proposal to extend registerProtocolHandler

2011-07-08 Thread timeless
If offering a potentially registerable api is done via link rel=protocol-handler type=foopy: href=... Then it'd be reasonable for a handling page to return some well known HTTP response (410?) to indicate that the API is no longer supported. The site wouldn't need to call a method, and the user

Re: [whatwg] Proposal to extend registerProtocolHandler

2011-07-04 Thread timeless
Or we could use a link and have the UA only show the option to the user if it feels like it. The UA could choose not to show it if it's already active. It could also choose to only show it if the user has visited repeatedly or whatever. This is closer to ATOM discovery, but it's also a deployed

Re: [whatwg] Proposal to extend registerProtocolHandler

2011-07-03 Thread timeless
On 7/1/11, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: Do any browser vendors agree with this or have objections? I don't look forward to being blackmailed by sites into me allowing them to register for X or else I don't get their content. I have a bank which won't let me bank unless I have Java

Re: [whatwg] AppCache-related e-mails

2011-07-03 Thread timeless
If you have 100mb of junk, it won't fit in my browser's http cache either. And that's a good thing, there are other sites I visit that are more important. However, a browser is within its rights to detect that its user uses a site so heavily as to justify increasing that site's cache allocation.

Re: [whatwg] AppCache-related e-mails

2011-06-30 Thread timeless
It's possible to build a main page so that it can update its content using a subresource. You can use iframes, javascript (including json), xmlhttprequests, or other things to do this. Nothing requires you to have a monolythic main page which is incapable of dynamically updating itself. ... If I

Re: [whatwg] Can we deprecate alert(), confirm(), prompt() ?

2011-06-12 Thread timeless
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: Do we have any data on whether these warnings have any useful effect? I don't, but then, browsers barely ever emit such warnings.  So it would be worth trying to mark some methods as deprecated in this fashion and

Re: [whatwg] Full Screen API Feedback

2011-05-12 Thread timeless
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Jer Noble jer.no...@apple.com wrote: Okay, here's another proposal that should work with Firefox's passive permission system: Proposal: - Add a new boolean Element property canRequestFullScreen.  This would map to Firefox's Never permission choice. - Add

Re: [whatwg] Full Screen API Feedback

2011-05-12 Thread timeless
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 1:46 PM, James May wha...@fowlsmurf.net wrote: Why can't the browser just do the fullscreen in a window behaviour until/if the user approves? I don't see anything wrong with this offhand :) No need for new events even, although a fullscreen lost, sourced eg. from some

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a web application descriptor

2011-05-06 Thread timeless
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote: There is a Unite application for Opera that does this - http://unite.opera.com/application/701/ Wow! I'll install it on Sunday (my day ends in a few minutes) thanks you just made my weekend :)

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a web application descriptor

2011-05-05 Thread timeless
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote: If I understand correctly, I disagree. :) I might trust a given entity sometimes, or with some kinds of information, without wanting to simply say sure whatever you want. And I'm still haunted by web sites which

Re: [whatwg] Blacklist for regsiterProtocolHandler()

2011-04-22 Thread timeless
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Michael A. Puls II shadow2...@gmail.com wrote: Besides mailto, these should be white-listed: mms nntp news rtsp

Re: [whatwg] Blacklist for regsiterProtocolHandler()

2011-04-18 Thread timeless
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Lachlan Hunt lachlan.h...@lachy.id.au wrote:  We are investigating registerProtocolHandler and have been discussing the need for a blacklist of protocols to forbid. Our list currently includes: * http: * https: * ftp: * file: * about: * data: Email

Re: [whatwg] Why is @scoped required for style as flow content?

2011-04-12 Thread timeless
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:37 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: Are there any other reasons to allow style as flow content?  That is, are there good use cases for it? MXR uses style in flow to give updated search results on the fly without requiring JavaScript.

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for IsSearchProviderInstalled / AddSearchProvider

2011-02-19 Thread timeless
This should be rare as annoying and confusing your users typically isn't a good business strategy. Not all strategies involve wanting to keep normal, happy, satisfied customers. Spammers and other fraudsters seem to be perfectly happy with things where they capture things like the default

Re: [whatwg] Google Feedback on the HTML5 media a11y specifications

2011-02-16 Thread timeless
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Kevin Marks kevinma...@gmail.com wrote: Moving them only within the video viewport is a bug, not a feature. Of note, the big tv we had in 2000 (probably purchased circa 1998) at a college communal area would display captions for the PIP window below the PIP. So

Re: [whatwg] Device element and the lifetime of the stream objects

2011-02-16 Thread timeless
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: This is just a thought. Instead of acquiring a Stream object asynchronously there always is one available showing transparent black or some such. :) E.g. navigator.cameraStream. It also inherits from EventTarget. Then

Re: [whatwg] Device element and the lifetime of the stream objects

2011-02-15 Thread timeless
2011/2/15 Leandro Graciá Gil leandrogra...@chromium.org: Given the above case, we don't think that the lifetime of the Stream objects should be controlled exclusively by the Web application. We think that the specification should state the UA must allow the user to explicitly revoke access.

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for separating script downloads and execution

2011-02-10 Thread timeless
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: I don't think so.  If there is any parse or compilation or whatever you want to call it error, the script is never executed, so window.x is never defined. oops, right, but i don't know that that complicates things much. you

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for separating script downloads and execution

2011-02-09 Thread timeless
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: - The scripts in comments hack would be unneeded.  That's an unpleasant hack, because it will both prevent browsers from caching compiled scripts, and prevent scripts from being compiled in the background.  Specifying a bogus

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for separating script downloads and execution

2011-02-09 Thread timeless
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Alexandre Morgaut alexandre.morg...@4d.com wrote: Another approach: The link tag is meant to support a prefetch value for the rel attribute asking to preemptively cache the resource:  - http://blog.whatwg.org/the-road-to-html-5-link-relations#rel-prefetch  -

[whatwg] Bouncing messages that are replies to whatwg Digest

2011-01-07 Thread timeless
Would it be possible to configure the list serv to bounce messages of the form: /.*: whatwg Digest/ Most of us [1] simply reply to the message we get, not paying much attention to the summary. (Some do fix the Subject, and there's one kind soul who is fighting to improve our habits.) I'm

Re: [whatwg] whatwg Digest, Vol 82, Issue 10

2011-01-06 Thread timeless
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:54 AM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: * You can typically only serve one domain per IP address, unless you can set up SNI (do all browsers support that yet?). [1] Browsers with support for TLS server name indication: * Internet Explorer 7 (Vista or higher,

Re: [whatwg] whatwg Digest, Vol 82, Issue 10

2011-01-06 Thread timeless
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:54 AM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: * If your cert expires or you misconfigure the site something else goes wrong, all your users get scary error messages. This isn't limited to SNI. I saw one server which had its certificate expire at the end of Dec 30,

Re: [whatwg] sic element, was: Re: Exposing spelling/grammar suggestions in contentEditable

2011-01-03 Thread timeless
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote: Would search engines benefit from markup for this? They could actually benefit, if the correct spelling would be added in an attribute, so they could match the misspelled word with a correctly spelled search term; somehow

Re: [whatwg] Low Memory Event

2011-01-02 Thread timeless
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius svartma...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/31/10, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Please don't use all my memory for your Web-based game. :-) I may just be running it in the background while finding a video to watch, for example, in which case I

Re: [whatwg] Low Memory Event

2011-01-02 Thread timeless
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius svartma...@gmail.com wrote: Why wouldn't you suspend the process (i.e. put it to sleep by stopping it). because the server may kill you when the network socket times out or breaks. why should it waste resources on a non responsive client?

Re: [whatwg] toDataURL image/jpeg composition

2010-12-09 Thread timeless
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Charles Pritchardch...@jumis.com  wrote: Currently, Firefox and Safari output image/jpeg in a way that differs from the spec: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11431 is there a reason you haven't found/filed bugs in

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a tab visibility API

2010-12-09 Thread timeless
i'm not sure i'm a fan. From work on the nokia n8x0/n900, we wanted to be able to stop things when the screen blanked. During this case the active tab was still the active tab, but since the screen was blanked, the user couldn't see it. That said, if a video is offscreen, partially offscreen,

Re: [whatwg] toDataURL image/jpeg composition

2010-12-08 Thread timeless
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote: Currently, Firefox and Safari output image/jpeg in a way that differs from the spec: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11431 is there a reason you haven't found/filed bugs in

Re: [whatwg] Javascript: URLs as element attributes

2010-12-01 Thread timeless
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: Oh, the other thing that JavaScript can do that data: can't do is trade off url length for CPU time.  A data: URI to write out the first 3000 Fibonacci numbers would be a lot longer than the equivalent javascript: URI.  

Re: [whatwg] Javascript: URLs as element attributes

2010-12-01 Thread timeless
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: These can also be done with data:text/html,script.../script and maybe canvas. It is slightly longer, but not much. Sure, play the canvas card. I could just as easily respond to everything by saying you don't need layout

Re: [whatwg] Javascript: URLs as element attributes

2010-11-30 Thread timeless
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: Also, note that embed src=javascript: and applet something=javascript: (can't recall the attr name right now) also execute the script in Firefox.  Do they in Opera? Neither of these execute in Opera, both were

Re: [whatwg] Javascript: URLs as element attributes

2010-11-30 Thread timeless
http://download.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/guide/misc/applet.html actually, potentially each of these are probably potential candidates for something: CODEBASE ARCHIVE OBJECT

Re: [whatwg] Javascript: URLs as element attributes

2010-11-30 Thread timeless
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote: How about code= (or param name=code value=javascript:)? i'm assuming not, the spec claims it's not allowed to take an absolute url.

Re: [whatwg] Exposing spelling/grammar suggestions in contentEditable

2010-11-29 Thread timeless
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote: A method for triggering a system/ua spell check via execCommand would be a small step forward. Is that something already available? Afaik, it was canned from the early MS model. Bringing up system dialogs is

Re: [whatwg] Exposing spelling/grammar suggestions in contentEditable

2010-11-28 Thread timeless
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote: Is there room for discussion of an API there's room to discuss such things. to expose misspelled ranges of text in contentEditable? I'm worried about privacy risks. Some devices have a tendency to learn passwords as

Re: [whatwg] Exposing spelling/grammar suggestions in contentEditable

2010-11-28 Thread timeless
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: But why would a password field ever be tied to a contentEditable section? I did not say that html:input type=password was the source of password data that was learned by the spell checker. I said that a spell

Re: [whatwg] Encrypted HTTP and related security concerns - make mixed content warnings accessible from JS?

2010-11-13 Thread timeless
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Ingo Chao i4c...@googlemail.com wrote: The mashup combines components, some of them are not under my control. The advertisement service provides 3rd party ads, they will change often. Including the ad service means that I never know if and when someone throws

Re: [whatwg] Encrypted HTTP and related security concerns - make mixed content warnings accessible from JS?

2010-11-11 Thread timeless
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Ingo Chao i4c...@googlemail.com wrote: For automated error reporting, say for a HTTPS mashup page with 3rd party advertisement content, I would like to have a security warning thrown for the mixed content situation (HTTPS mixed with HTTP content), accessible

Re: [whatwg] input type=number without keyboard editing

2010-11-07 Thread timeless
Interesting.  I'm pretty sure I've seen pages that would break as a result...  I guess we'll see when a browser tries to do that. from memory, microb did things like this, and it did break sites :). such breakage is unfortunate, and the lack of flexibility/ability for browser vendors to

Re: [whatwg] input type=number without keyboard editing

2010-11-01 Thread timeless
Ashley wrote: set one in onchange That's a javascript event, and shouldn't be relied upon for this sort of thing really. And my useragent is allowed to send arbitrary data to your server. you *must* deal with it.

Re: [whatwg] input type=number without keyboard editing

2010-10-31 Thread timeless
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 4:31 AM, TAMURA, Kent tk...@chromium.org wrote: A team in Google tried to use input type=number for a product, and they decided not to use it. What they needed was a control to select an integer from a specific integer range such as 1 - 16. The number type control in

Re: [whatwg] Autoplaying media elements not in a document

2010-10-17 Thread timeless
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Chris Pearce ch...@pearce.org.nz wrote: Unless there's a good reason not to, and since most browsers have implemented autoplay when not in a document anyway, perhaps we should update the spec to match the implemented behaviour? Accessibility tools only have

Re: [whatwg] Low Memory Event

2010-09-28 Thread timeless
On 9/28/10, Rob Evans r...@mtn-i.com wrote: All good points. I think as we have moved away from simple web pages and really start to think about applications that are coded in js, many things previously the exclusive domain of desktop apps are more and more desirable for web apps.

Re: [whatwg] Low Memory Event

2010-09-27 Thread timeless
what exactly do you intend to do if you get such a signal? In general, this is mostly a user problem. There are two basic cases: 1. user has one constrained device with one browser accessing a single web site (yours) with no other open applications. 2. user has a device with multiple open windows

Re: [whatwg] Low Memory Event

2010-09-27 Thread timeless
tl;dr of my previous post: it's impossible to know how much memory is available in the future. How much memory you're currently using is something that /could/ probably be provided in the near future. *However*, there might be a concern that this could be abused by attackers trying to figure out

Re: [whatwg] :invalid

2010-09-26 Thread timeless
On 9/24/10, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 9/23/10 6:12 PM, Mounir Lamouri wrote: So, to improve the user experience while using web forms we would like to fix that. However, we are wondering if :invalid (and :valid?) specifications should be updated to take UX considerations or if a

Re: [whatwg] Consensus on video element (scriptable) Full-Screen

2010-09-22 Thread timeless
no. it is not ok to allow content authors to refuse to deliver content unless they are full screen. having events which enable providers to hold users hostage is a bad thing. if i have two screens today and try to watch a youtube video full screen (with flash), it tries to unfullscreen when my

Re: [whatwg] Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-09-19 Thread timeless
On 8/24/10, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: How often do captions distinguish two or more speakers in the same cue by styling them differently? In my experience, translation subtitles for TV, DVDs and theatrical movies virtually never do (but it's assumed that the reader of the subtitles

Re: [whatwg] Please consider adding a couple more datetime input types - type=year and type=month-day

2010-09-18 Thread timeless
On 8/31/10, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: But there are users who don't know how to convert from ¾¼ÏÂxxǯ to year 19xx (like my parents and grandparents who has to spend at least half a minute recalling their birth years in Gregorian calendar), and

Re: [whatwg] input type=ink proposal

2010-08-07 Thread timeless
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Are there examples of sites working around the lack of this feature on the Web today, e.g. using Flash or some such? Nordic banking sites use java for authorization, that's just for pins (imo it's stupid).

Re: [whatwg] HTML resource packages

2010-08-04 Thread timeless
People should probably consider reading the Web Apps Widgets working group archives (they're public) about widget packaging. There are long discussions about zip and gzip, etc. http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets/#zip-archive Especially http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets/#character-sets covers character

Re: [whatwg] [br] element should not be a line break

2010-08-04 Thread timeless
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Thomas Koetter thomas.koet...@id-script.de wrote: Disclaimer: I'm new to this discussion list, so please excuse me if this topic has been discussed before. A quick search didn't turn up anything though. If you haven't taken the time to read the FAQ in its

Re: [whatwg] [br] element should not be a line break

2010-08-04 Thread timeless
data:text/html,%3Cstyle%3Ebr%20,%20b%20{display:inline;%20content:%22x%22}b:after,br:after{content:%22%20|%20%22}%20%3C/style%3Ea%3Cbr%3Eb%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3Ec So, in Safari, the above actually lets me replace br w/ whatever I like. bz indicates that I can't do that in Gecko because br is a replaced

Re: [whatwg] Input URL State and Files object

2010-08-03 Thread timeless
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 9:18 AM, James May wha...@fowlsmurf.net wrote: On Windows at least, when put a URL in the open dialog the shell downloads it then passes a temporary file. The browser never gets the source URL - so it'd be difficult without re-implementing the dialog (undesirable).  Plus

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for Web Storage expiration

2010-07-30 Thread timeless
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Nicholas Zakas nza...@yahoo-inc.com wrote:     setter creator void setItem(in DOMString key, in any data, [Optional] in unsigned long ttl); * If a TTL was previously set, and another call is made to setItem() that contains an invalid TTL (= 0), then the

Re: [whatwg] Constraint validation for maxlength

2010-07-27 Thread timeless
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Mounir Lamouri mounir.lamo...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose, like @required, as long as it doesn't break too many websites, we can count on evangelism teams and user feedbacks to fix there websites. Excuse me, but I've watched Evangelism struggle and fail for 10

Re: [whatwg] video application/octet-stream

2010-07-20 Thread timeless
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:00:41 +0200, Chris Double chris.dou...@double.co.nz wrote: You'll probably get different responses depending on who in Mozilla responds. For example, I prefer option (1) and am against content sniffing. Other's at Mozilla disagree I'm sure. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:28

Re: [whatwg] media resources: addressing media fragments through URIs spec

2010-07-04 Thread timeless
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 5:26 AM, silviapfeiffer1 silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't actually matter what element the URI appears in - your element has to deal with the data that it receives and if file.ogv#t=1:00,1:15 is an Ogg Theora segment out of a video, then that is what the img

Re: [whatwg] media resources: addressing media fragments through URIs spec

2010-07-04 Thread timeless
support application/svg+xml. However, as Safari supports application/pdf, the cat's out of the bag on non image/ mime types. http://www.webwizardry.net/~timeless/svg/276431.html All of the image formats that you are pointing out have an image mime type. I should have listed PDF which doesn't, mia

Re: [whatwg] media resources: addressing media fragments through URIs spec

2010-07-03 Thread timeless
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: This latter one is already defined as a 5 sec video extract from the full file.ogv - it's not possible to overload that with turning the byte range into an animated gif. So, img isn't restricted to animated GIFs,

Re: [whatwg] Resolutions meta tag proposal

2010-07-03 Thread timeless
2010/7/3 André Luís andreluis...@gmail.com: (alt-option 1) Trying to step away from the solution presented, I can only imagine something along the lines of different src attributes for different resolutions: img src=imgs/standard-def.png src-2x=imgs/high-def.png video src=movs/sd.ogv

Re: [whatwg] video

2010-06-23 Thread timeless
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Ben Vanik ben.va...@microsoft.com wrote: An API like this would be great for WebGL-related content too. Doing the canvas + HTML/CSS UI in fullscreen plus the ability to get keyboard input would allow for native-like games to be built. You’d also get a

Re: [whatwg] Speech input element

2010-05-19 Thread timeless
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:38 AM, David Singer sin...@apple.com wrote: I am a little concerned that we are increasingly breaking down a metaphor, a 'virtual interface' without realizing what that abstraction buys us. I'm more than a little concerned about this and hope that we tread much more

Re: [whatwg] Need document.available_fonts() call

2010-05-12 Thread timeless
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:37 AM, JustFillBug mozbug...@yahoo.com.au wrote: How about cloud computing? Gimp or CorelDraw like applications.  There are already bitmap and vector editors in html5 using javascript. A user should be allowed to make use of the large amount of fonts site on his hard

Re: [whatwg] getElementById

2010-05-10 Thread timeless
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Perry Smith pedz...@gmail.com wrote: I see places that explicitly state that the same object is returned on some operations.  For example, the element.style has that clause. I have not found in either html5 or the DOM documentation that is referenced an

Re: [whatwg] Security thoughts

2010-05-09 Thread timeless
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Perry Smith pedz...@gmail.com wrote: If we have a site like official_site.area_subdomain.big.com which relaxes the restriction to area_subdomain.big.com, it is now exposed to the potential of an attack from any of the systems within the same area_subdomain

Re: [whatwg] Type Date

2010-05-07 Thread timeless
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 5:58 AM, Garrett Smith dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: | # a date-fullyear is defined as four or more digits | representing a number greater than 0 I read that as to . Is there a different interpretation of that? Surely is not greater than 0?

Re: [whatwg] RFC: input type=username

2010-05-04 Thread timeless
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Eitan Adler eitanadlerl...@gmail.com wrote: 3) Currently autofill for usernames looks for something like id=username or name=username. However on certain websites this fails. Why would a site which doesn't cooperate with today's autofill features choose to

Re: [whatwg] Directory upload via input type=file directory

2010-04-29 Thread timeless
Adrian wrote: But they often have a similar concept anyway - the iPhone for example might let the user select an album of images to upload rather than a folder. The platforms I have in mind doesn't seem to have such a concept at all.

Re: [whatwg] Directory upload via input type=file directory

2010-04-28 Thread timeless
fwiw, some platforms don't intend to support exposing folders to users at all...

Re: [whatwg] Two propositions for the autofocus attribute

2010-04-15 Thread timeless
fwiw, w/ the mobile browsers i work w/, random focus changes are incredibly annoying. we had a manager who insisted on a feature where the browser would move focus to the urlbar in certain cases. as a result users often have text they're typing spread across at least two input areas. needless

Re: [whatwg] Changing punctuation value of input element in telephone state

2010-04-06 Thread timeless
0-9, *, #, p, w http://www.wikihow.com/Add-Pauses-to-a-Phone-Number recognizing the difference between a 'P' and a 'p' (or a 'W' and a 'w') is moderately painful.

Re: [whatwg] Maximum length of attribute values

2010-03-24 Thread timeless
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Roger Hågensen resca...@emsai.net wrote: Outch! But that's just SVG then right? In which case the SVG specs probably states a different minimum requirement on top of the HTML one? (haven't checked) 'just SVG'? you realize that in addition to embed or img or

Re: [whatwg] Multiple file download

2010-03-10 Thread timeless
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Jose Fandos iaminlon...@gmail.com wrote: Er... sure. It is not as convenient for certain web apps when compared to desktop apps. With this supported, the gap get's reduced. Adding support for tar (and all of its variations) involves adding extra code, testing,

Re: [whatwg] Structured clone algorithm a little too friendly?

2010-03-10 Thread timeless
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:50 AM, ben turner b...@mozilla.com wrote: Hi folks, I'm implementing the structured clone algorithm and this part bothers me a little bit:  - If input is a host object (e.g. a DOM node)      Return the null value. Seems like this has the potential to confuse web

Re: [whatwg] prompts, alerts and showModalDialog during beforeunload/unload events

2010-03-10 Thread timeless
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Mike Hearn m...@plan99.net wrote: Browsers could solve the editor use case by treating close tab as hide tab for a minute or two before actually shutting down the page. Firefox today has undo close tab. And people have joked for years about undo quit application

Re: [whatwg] Video source selection based on quality

2010-03-10 Thread timeless
David Singer wrote: I am by no means convinced that automatic selection of sources other than that based on the most obvious, automated, criteria, is wise or needed.  We have had for many years, in QuickTime, this facility, and quite a few sites opted not to use it and allow the user a manual

Re: [whatwg] Script-invokable copy action

2010-03-10 Thread timeless
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 12:37 AM, wha...@alanhogan.com wrote: I personally would like to see a cross-browser way to invoke a copy-to-clipboard command without using any drag-and-drop APIs. I understand access to the clipboard is sensitive. I call for user agents to respond to a JavaScript

Re: [whatwg] img copyright attribute

2010-01-12 Thread timeless
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:53 AM, will surgent will...@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice if there was a copyright attribute for the HTML 5 img tag. This would make it easy for users and search engines to filter out images that can not be used for certain purposes. external metadata on copyright

Re: [whatwg] window.print() when printing is not supported

2010-01-02 Thread timeless
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Olli Pettay olli.pet...@helsinki.fi wrote: Hi all, currently http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/timers.html#printing says that window.print() should prompt user to print the page, but that For instance, a kiosk browser could silently

Re: [whatwg] Do we really need history.clearState()?

2009-11-15 Thread timeless
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:23 PM, timeless timel...@gmail.com wrote: what if pushState returned a value which could be passed to clearState? On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 3:44 AM, Justin Lebar justin.le...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure how this would work.  What would clearState do with that value

Re: [whatwg] rp is a styling tag and has no semantic function

2009-11-14 Thread timeless
Nikita Popov pri...@ni-po.com: Screen-readers are yet another problem: I'm not sure, what's better: ka-n-ka-n-ji-ji or ka-n-bracketopen-ka-n-bracketclose-ji-bracketopen-ji-bracketclose. I think the first one is even better, because the text is only duplicated and the reader mustn't read the

Re: [whatwg] validationMessage

2009-11-14 Thread timeless
So... trying to do anything like this is a disaster. But it sounds like the API is *trying* to handle the problem described below. I'm not sure it does (and suspect in fact that it doesn't). === implementation experience: GMail with a composed but unsent message will toss up a dialog if you try

Re: [whatwg] window.setInterval if visible.

2009-10-29 Thread timeless
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote: From a performance point of view it might even be worth thinking about the contrary: Allow UAs to stop the execution of scripts on non-visible windows or elements by default, and provide a method to explicitly specify if the

Re: [whatwg] localStorage feedback

2009-10-27 Thread timeless
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I've edited the latter text to indicate that the expiration should only be done at user option. On a device with limited storage, is the user option of having a device that still boots and operates a sufficient option? I'm

Re: [whatwg] progress/meter in spec

2009-10-20 Thread timeless
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I think opinions on this are split, and we probably won't be able to determine for sure whether such UI is a good idea or not without more experience with this in the wild. I'm not sure if i have an opinion. I'd like to note that

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