Hi everybody. I know that my idea can be seen as weird but I prefer to try
and receive negative answers, than remaining with nothing.
Today embedding images in a page is more complex than before and it allows
responsive pictures, too. But there's a feature associated with images and,
though still
://github.com/stowball/jQuery-rwdImageMaps
2015-03-18 16:50 GMT+01:00 Martin Janecke whatwg@prlbr.com:
Am .03.2015, 12:38 Uhr, schrieb Andrea Rendine
master.skywalker...@gmail.com:
[…] why can't map area coordinates
be responsive? I know that percentages simply don't work as UAs either
interpret
More than one year ago I first updated the page MetaExtension on WHATWG
wiki, in order to introduce values for @name according to DCMI dc-html
documentation (http://dublincore.org/documents/dc-html/).
There are several mistakes in the dc. and dcterms. list as of now, I tried
to fix them, but my
:
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Andrea Rendine
master.skywalker...@gmail.com wrote:
About SVG, I made a couple of tests and they are far from being
comprehensive, but this is the fact. SVG image maps need to define 2
elements for each area, i.e. the element itself and its associated
hyperlink
Hi again.
I hope anyone takes the time to review my request about MetaExtension and
Dublin Core revision. The metadata properties list as it is now on the
page is out of its proper specification.
Thank you for the help.
Andrea Rendine
Why are alternatives like CSS-positioned a links or SVG not better?
The issue with CSS is easy. All that can be achieved through it is
rectangles/squares (and their transformations), circles and some
approximation of ellipses (with border-radius). The third feature allowed
by image maps,
As an author I shall offer my 2 cents too.
First off, I'm for native implementations and all that markup and CSS can
do on _existing_ content.
Thus said, I prefer having JS manipulating the content with AJAX than
having the markup doing that.
Apart from the concept that markup itself is being
and I
didn't succeed in finding the mentioned command.
Can't test on Safari (I'm a Win user), but I confirm about Chrome.
However the bulk of my issue remains: wouldn't it be useful if there were a
refresh property to be accessed for the document?
2015-03-24 10:49 GMT+01:00 Andrea Rendine
...@dieweltistgarnichtso.net:
Andrea Rendine master.skywalker...@gmail.com writes:
Besides that, the spec says that UAs may expose the time (and other
aspects) for a refresh event of the document and it also refers to the
possibility for a user to cancel the redirect, while as of now users
you very much for your patience.
Andrea Rendine
Note that it's perfectly fine to reference svg files from a picture
element, see e.g http://sarasoueidan.com/blog/svg-picture/.
Which means repeating the map construction for every SVG file. Of course if
the SVG is created by a script or a graphics application it can be done
easily, but this is
At first sight I wouldn't define this case so impractical or senseless.
Looking at your example it looks like that the nav element is related
with the site itself (e.g. other articles, other sections of the site), not
with the page. If you had a heading element for the whole site (e.g. the
site
For the first time in my life I support JavaScript. But I want to see where
this idea will go.
Here other 2 virtual cents: please, if it ends up as a way to improve the
template element somehow compatibly with the current standard, and if it
reveals to be viable, try turning it into a proposal for
why doesn't the document interface expose the refresh timeout?
Because nobody implemented it and nobody asked for it (until now).
I don't know whether to feel proud or guilty about that.
http://www.phpied.com/files/location-location/location-location.html .
This list does not show that anyone
why not improving an existing feature
See https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#Where.27s_the_harm_in_adding.E2.80.94
Yes, I think I should have expressed it better. Why not improving *this*
specific feature?
I'm aware that older elements could end up being incompatible with use
cases they have
Instead, we start by figuring out what problems need solving.
Which is what has been done for this subject, I guess.
PROBLEM: image maps, intended as shaped link areas related to specific
regions of an image are a fairly requested feature. Unfortunately, as
current solutions are not responsive
One of the 2 objections, I'd say. But the second is probably a matter of
implementation.
SVG makes it unclear what's the actual active area when navigating through
tab key.
2015-03-25 19:32 GMT+01:00 Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Andrea Rendine
Simon:
I think extremely few actually care about XHTML, but the other issue is
probably more relevant.
I think that the spec takes care of XHTML and that there's a W3 candidate
recommendation spec about polyglot markup. XHTML addresses some issues
and creates others, but actually I trust it for
. on page caching.
2015-03-26 14:09 GMT+01:00 Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:11:15 +0100, Andrea Rendine
master.skywalker...@gmail.com wrote:
You still haven't demonstrated that anyone but you want the ability to
stop a meta refresh, though.
I guess it's extremely
Bobby, the major criticism you have received about your proposal is that
you aren't considering at all any other party involved in this subject.
Correct me if I'm wrong, you cite no user agent responsible for support,
nor working groups or anything loosely resembling to that.
You are providing a
if the svg is inline in the html document. Support for
tabindex in svg is implemented in Blink and WebKit already.
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 21:24:04 +0100, Andrea Rendine
master.skywalker...@gmail.com wrote:
One of the 2 objections, I'd say. But the second is probably a matter of
implementation.
SVG
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Subject: Re: [whatwg] Page refresh interface
..Simon, there's no use case where meta cannot be substituted by a
JS-only solution. The point is, what happens to the JS-only solution in
cases where JS
I'm going to say something not nice. Blame me freely.
Back in the earliest days, it was pretty easy to publish a page of
text... Easy enough for the average writer ... The fact that writing a
simple document has become a programming job - between a lot more HTML
functionality, CSS, and
Uhr, schrieb Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Andrea Rendine
master.skywalker...@gmail.com wrote:
About SVG, I made a couple of tests and they are far from being
comprehensive, but this is the fact. SVG image maps need to define 2
elements for each area
+01:00 Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 17:10:56 +0100, Andrea Rendine
master.skywalker...@gmail.com wrote:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3252743/using-
javascript-to-override-or-disable-meta-refresh-tag
This thread is quite full of examples with authors trying
GMT+01:00 Bobby Mozumder mozum...@futureclaw.com:
On Mar 24, 2015, at 8:19 AM, Andrea Rendine master.skywalker...@gmail.com
wrote:
As an author I shall offer my 2 cents too.
First off, I'm for native implementations and all that markup and CSS can
do on _existing_ content.
Thus said, I prefer
refresh should be avoided altogether and replaced by JS?
2015-03-26 14:48 GMT+01:00 Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 14:37:17 +0100, Andrea Rendine
master.skywalker...@gmail.com wrote:
Some fellow people who want to stop the power of meta, then. (the first
2
questions
It's sad indeed, as it seems that best practices are seldomly followed and
poor coding is the way.
However,
some functionality ordinarily provided by JavaScript that now can be done
by HTML5, e.g. the details tag and progress tag
Actually progress is native only in its attribute definition and
After a mail confrontation with Reinier, as well as some very simple models
I saw at work, I have to admit that I support this idea.
nav has a strong semantic value, for sure. It deserves UAs to easily
highlight navigation elements.
Thus said, is it really needed that nav necessarily defines a
Hi everybody!
A request starting from meta element and its refresh state: why doesn't
the document interface expose the refresh timeout? The ideal would be to
expose it in read/write mode, as authors have evolved several variants of
location.href/replace/refresh/reload. And for several I mean 534:
not apply to dc.date.issued, which simply does not exist
(the correct property name is dc.issued).
You can find all sources for those properties at
http://dublincore.org/documents/2012/06/14/dcmi-terms/
Cheers,
Andrea Rendine
Some years ago there were also Internet Explorer 6, proprietary tags,
frameset web pages and the project for DHTML. There also was the idea of
simple JS expressions to be evaluated in CSS. Why does anybody not propose
to restore {expression()}?
Never been a fan of the new is good motto, but saying
Bobby,
stop talking about comfort zone and scared programmers and start acting
like a person who considers anybody else worth discussing with, instead of
a bunch of stupid people acting for their own interest.
What you propose is as complex and impractical as a JS framework is.
Moreover, an author
Polyfills aren’t going to cover all possible scenarios, either, since
they’re going to be limited by test coverage.
Some messages ago you suggested that Angular would serve as a proof of
concept for your proposal
I'm sure you didn't mean to replicate Angular.js with HTML.
No polyfills will
Long ago I proposed an attribute for code language because I was
unhappy with all the class=language-whatever thing. I proposed @lang
because I thought there could be an issue with speech synthesis and
languages, but it was effectively pointed out that such attribute does
not fit this case.
+1
Mathias, mind that while libraries support using the @class attribute,
there's no standard between them about whether to use a prefix before
the language or if a prefix is necessary at all.
Besides, @class has no semantic value. It's true that the spec
suggests using semantic class names (instead
Mr Hickson,
I understand now, things are to be tested in the real world.
I hope you judge WebDevData a reliable source.
I ran some tests on latest WDD dataset (January 2015)
All list items below have been searched as value for meta@name
dc.date.issued
(along with possible variants
You don't have to show any magnificent markup example with pages of
description.
You have to show authors how this framework WORKS in real life. With
comprehensive use cases.
This is a polyfill. As you can find for any other HTML magic you see
around.
CSS is a different case. Without proper tools,
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