Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-22 Thread djamel slamnia
thanks for every things i would like to use PBE0 on-site hybrid can you explain it to me please step by step and i will be gratful  Le vendredi 22 novembre 2019 à 14:50:45 UTC+1, Xavier Rocquefelte a écrit : I am working on similar compounds but not with Mn. I would recommend

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-22 Thread Xavier Rocquefelte
I am working on similar compounds but not with Mn. I would recommend to use PBE+U or PBE0 on-site hybrid. In the first case (PBE+U) you must define an appropriate value for Ueff of Mn-3d states. In the second case, use alpha = 0.25 for only M-3d states. It should be a not to bad

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-22 Thread djamel slamnia
- > *From:* Wien > <mailto:wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at> on behalf of djamel > slamnia <mailto:djamel4...@yahoo.fr> > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:41 PM > *To:* A Mailing list for WIEN2k us

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-22 Thread Xavier Rocquefelte
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Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-22 Thread djamel slamnia
rit : > > > If you are trying to do an optimization of atom positions, then you can > not do it with hybrid functional (-hf option) because the forces are not > implemented for hybrid functionals. > > > > *From:* Wien > <mailto:wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at&g

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-21 Thread Peter Blaha
dnesday, November 20, 2019 2:41 PM *To:* A Mailing list for WIEN2k users *Subject:* Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations i'm  using hf hybrid functional i tryed to do minimisation MSR1 but i cant get convergence what is the solution in your opinion ??   thank in adv

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-21 Thread Laurence Marks
You either typed the command in wrong, or did something else wrong, the "-f 1" does not belong. In addition, "-NI" should not be used when you change mode (e.g. GGA to HF). It may be that your calculation has converged, but due to incorrect options you have told it to converge to "zero" energy

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-21 Thread Xavier Rocquefelte
lf of djamel slamnia <mailto:djamel4...@yahoo.fr> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:41 PM *To:* A Mailing list for WIEN2k users *Subject:* Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations i'm  using hf hybrid functional i tryed to do minimisation MSR1 but i cant get

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-21 Thread Laurence Marks
the forces are not > implemented for hybrid functionals. > > > -- > *From:* Wien > on behalf of djamel slamnia > > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:41 PM > *To:* A Mailing list for WIEN2k users > *Subject:* Re: [Wien] Beween non

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-21 Thread djamel slamnia
for hybrid functionals. From: Wien on behalf of djamel slamnia Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:41 PM To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users Subject: Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations   i'm  using hf hybrid functional i tryed to do minimisation

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-21 Thread Xavier Rocquefelte
. *From:* Wien on behalf of djamel slamnia *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:41 PM *To:* A Mailing list for WIEN2k users *Subject:* Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations i'm  using hf hybrid functional i tryed to do minimisation MSR1 but i cant get

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-21 Thread djamel slamnia
it with hybrid functional (-hf option) because the forces are not implemented for hybrid functionals. From: Wien on behalf of djamel slamnia Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:41 PM To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users Subject: Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-20 Thread Tran, Fabien
:41 PM To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users Subject: Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations i'm using hf hybrid functional i tryed to do minimisation MSR1 but i cant get convergence what is the solution in your opinion ?? thank in advance Le dimanche 17 novembre 2019

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-20 Thread Laurence Marks
Without more information it is hard to say anything. Try MSEC3? _ Professor Laurence Marks "Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody else has thought", Albert Szent-Gyorgi www.numis.northwestern.edu On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 07:41 djamel slamnia wrote: > i'm

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-20 Thread djamel slamnia
i'm  using hf hybrid functional i tryed to do minimisation MSR1 but i cant get convergence what is the solution in your opinion ??   thank in advance  Le dimanche 17 novembre 2019 à 18:36:12 UTC+1, Abderrahmane Reggad a écrit : Thanks xavier for the interesting article and useful

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-17 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Thanks xavier for the interesting article and useful information My new question is : what's the relationship between the unpaired electrons and the orbital contribution. I think that the unpaired electrons are always related to the spin contribution. Best regards -- Dr. Abderrahmane Reggad

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-17 Thread Xavier Rocquefelte
I recommend you the following article: https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.108.047201 Bulk gold is diamagnetic and it exhibits a tiny Pauli and Orbital paramagnetic state. Pauli paramagnetism is due to the non-zero density at the Fermi level (metal) and the orbital

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-16 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Since the ground state of the Au metal is non magnetic, does it mean that the Au metal is diamagnetic or paramagnetic and why ? -- Dr. Abderrahmane Reggad Engineering Physics Laboratory Faculty of Material Sciences, Ibn Khaldoun University, Tiaret, 14000, Algeria Tel: +213(0)561861963 - Algeria

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-08 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Thanks for the answers The electronic structure of the Au is [Xe]4f145d106s1 and that of Au+ is [ Xe]4f145d10 . Does the fullness of the d orbitals which make the magnetic moment of Au metal zero ? and what about the s electron in the 6 shell? -- Dr. Abderrahmane Reggad Engineering Physics

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-08 Thread Peter Blaha
Au has an odd number of electrons, so it is NOT a paired system. The Au atom is spinpolarized and fcc Au at some (probably very large) lattice parameter will behave like a single Au atom. Zn or Cd are paired electron systems. On 11/8/19 2:12 PM, Abderrahmane Reggad wrote: Can we get

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-08 Thread Tran, Fabien
] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations Can we get the NM structure of fcc Fe which gives a zero moment when we use spin polarized calculation? Is it the FSM procedure the good choice? I have to mention that the fe metal is an unpaired electron system wheras the Au metal

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-08 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Can we get the NM structure of fcc Fe which gives a zero moment when we use spin polarized calculation? Is it the FSM procedure the good choice? I have to mention that the fe metal is an unpaired electron system wheras the Au metal is a paired electron system. Can we get a ferromagnetic

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-08 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Sorry for the error What is the difference between the two cases: fcc Fe an fcc Au? In the first case (fcc Fe), there is a ferromagnetic solution with magnetic moment equal to 0.96 MB but it's higher in energy than NM solution and in the second case ( fcc Au) the spin polarized calculation

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-08 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Thanks Gerhard for the information Best regards -- Dr. Abderrahmane Reggad Engineering Physics Laboratory Faculty of Material Sciences, Ibn Khaldoun University, Tiaret, 14000, Algeria Tel: +213(0)561861963 - Algeria ___ Wien mailing list

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-08 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Thanks tran for your anwser What is the difference between the two cases: fcc Fe an fcc Au? In the first case, there is a ferromagnetic solution with magnetic moment equal to 0.96 MB but it's higher in energy than NM solution and the second solution the spin polarized calculation converges to a

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-08 Thread Fecher, Gerhard
Institute for Chemical Physics of Solids 01187 Dresden Von: Wien [wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] im Auftrag von Abderrahmane Reggad [abde.reg...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 8. November 2019 10:39 An: wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at Betreff: [Wien]

Re: [Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-08 Thread Tran, Fabien
] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations Hello wien2k users When we made calculation of the fcc Fe metal with gga functional we have found that the non spin polarized calculation gives lower energy than the spin polarized calculation. 1) What does that it mean? 2) Should we proceed

[Wien] Beween non spin polarized and spin polarized calculations

2019-11-08 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Hello wien2k users When we made calculation of the fcc Fe metal with gga functional we have found that the non spin polarized calculation gives lower energy than the spin polarized calculation. 1) What does that it mean? 2) Should we proceed to other magnetic calculations ( AFM and FERRI ) to