Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Jack Park
This sounds right to me. I suspect this might be the first time I posted here, but Stuart's comment makes sense. There really are several entities, such as the activities of Paul Allen's institute's work in AI and scholarship; but, if Wikipedia is to tie in with these cc-by research documents, it

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Timothy Wood
Well, we do have some things going for us that they might not, like a translation regime. But I wouldn't pretend to know half of the functionality that we can actually provide given that the papers are properly integrated into Wikidata. On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 6:25 PM Stuart A. Yeates wrote: >

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
Given that there are organisations already organised, funded and operating to preserve and promote open-access research, we might want to think about focusing on getting deep interoperability with them, rather than sucking all the content into Wikisource, where we can't provide half the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Alexandre Hocquet
On 17/04/2019 22:36, Stuart A. Yeates wrote: On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 08:29, Alexandre Hocquet wrote: what? then a lot of wikipedia articles should be labelled as {{secondary sources needed}}) Exactly. Sourcing as a whole across wikipedia already relies too heavily on primary sources. I

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 08:29, Alexandre Hocquet wrote: > what? then a lot of wikipedia > articles should be labelled as {{secondary sources needed}}) Exactly. Sourcing as a whole across wikipedia already relies too heavily on primary sources. I regularly tag articles as such. cheers stuart --

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Alexandre Hocquet
On 17/04/2019 21:56, Leila Zia wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 12:50 PM Stuart A. Yeates > wrote: Wikipedia is a tertiary source, built from secondary sources. Journal articles which contain innovative research or new contributions are primary sources.

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Leila Zia
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 12:50 PM Stuart A. Yeates wrote: > Wikipedia is a tertiary source, built from secondary sources. Journal > articles which contain innovative research or new contributions are > primary sources. Review articles are secondary sources. > I need some education here, please:

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Alexandre Hocquet
On 17/04/2019 20:36, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Alexandre Hocquet, 17/04/19 20:40: My point is : as it can be imagined that the number of CC-BY scientific papers will likely sky-rocket in the next years, would not it be relevant to try to organise "CC-BY scientific papers" driven

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Samuel Klein
A wikisource toolchain for importing articles would be wonderful. There is no equivalent place for public comments, categorization, and dense internal linking across such texts. On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 2:36 PM Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Alexandre Hocquet, 17/04/19 20:40: > > My point is : as

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Alexandre Hocquet, 17/04/19 20:40: My point is : as it can be imagined that the number of CC-BY scientific papers will likely sky-rocket in the next years, would not it be relevant to try to organise "CC-BY scientific papers" driven edit-a-thons Importing text and images from freely licensed

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Wikimedia Research Showcase] April 17 at 11:30 AM PDT, 19:30 UTC

2019-04-17 Thread Janna Layton
The Research Showcase will be starting in about 30 minutes. Topics today are WikiProject and the "Thanks" feature. Info below: On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 2:57 PM Janna Layton wrote: > Just a reminder that this Showcase will be happening on Wednesday. > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 4:49 PM Janna

[Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Alexandre Hocquet
Dear Wikiresearchers, You may be aware that a rising number of scientific publications are published under a CC-BY licence. Roughly describing the politics of academic publishing, one can say that publishers hold on to a very profictable business by paywalling articles, academics tend to