Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Design] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: Integrating user behavior to design better products: May 31
Thanks for sharing! Will there be a recording and/or shared slides etc. for people who may miss the talk e.g. because of the timeshift? Jan 2016-05-29 6:46 GMT+02:00 Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com>: > Sounds interesting. Forwarding. > > Pine > -- Forwarded message -- > From: "Rachel Farrand" <rfarr...@wikimedia.org> > Date: May 28, 2016 21:37 > Subject: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: Integrating user behavior to design > better products: May 31 > To: "Wikimedia developers" <wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org> > Cc: > > Please join for the following tech talk: > > *Tech Talk**:* Integrating user behavior to design better products > *Presenter:* Pau Giner > *Date:* May 31, 2016 > *Time: *19:00 UTC > < > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Tech+Talk%3A+Integrating+user+behaviour+to+design+better+products=20160531T19=1440=30 > > > *Length:* 30 minutes > Link to live YouTube stream <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLeTABdcdR4> > *IRC channel for questions/discussion:* #wikimedia-office > > *Summary: *The design process helps us to find solutions that respond to > the user needs. However, this process needs to rely on actual user behavior > to make sure we are addressing the right problems with the best possible > solutions. > > Wikimedia projects are developed in the open and they reach millions of > users in very different contexts. This makes it challenging to integrate > the different observed behaviors, measured actions, opinions and other > forms of feedback. > > After applying the design process on different Wikimedia projects, I want > to share some good practices and lessons learnt when integrating user > behavior to inform product decisions, and how you (in whichever role you > are playing) can help designers to better support this process. > > *Feel free to forward this email to any other relevant wikimedia lists.* > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > ___ > Design mailing list > des...@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design > > -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ User Research Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
[Wiki-research-l] Research on new editors experiences (qualitative)
Hello fellow list members, Are you aware of any qualitative studies that do research on the experiences and/or problems of new/yet unexperienced Wikipedia authors? I searched on scholar and informally asked some colleges. The best I found were some surveys with free text fields (which were already pretty interesting) but I wonder if there are any interview/observation based studies with a more formal analysis of data (e.g. thematic analysis or Grounded Theory etc.) Kind Regards, Jan PS: Since I'm new to the list: I recently started working as designer and user researcher at Wikimedia Deutschland and since I use qualitative and quantitative methods as part of my work I'm looking forward to participate in the discussions on this list. -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ User Research Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
[Wiki-research-l] Alternatives to google forms for surveys
Hello Research, I would like to setup surveys at Wikimedia Deutschland. Currently we have google forms as a possiblity. We wonder if there are any other solutions which are ideally open source and/or self hostable. What I found was https://www.limesurvey.org/de/ – I wonder if anybody has experiences with that. Jan -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ User Research Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] Alternatives to google forms for surveys
Hi Everyone, Thanks for the helpful replies. It is great to hear that I can possibly get a qualtrics access. It is good to build on a product the organization has experience with. I wonder if qualtrics adheres to EU privacy laws. Ticket https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94807 states it does not. That would be sad. Lime survey seems to be an OK option, in particular after Frederico’s response. I fear the security problems, too, though. (On the other hand, on a quick glance https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-6900/Limesurvey.html does not look significantly worse than other products) ODK seems to be an interesting tool, but its focus on on-site data gathering in contrast to web forms makes me wonder how I would use it for my most common use cases (at which I'm not on-site). As a bit of an abstract remark, it is a pity that there seem to be few open source options and that it seems often to be a more viable solution to resort to a non-open service. I suppose that would be a highly interesting question to discuss with other open organizations which also seem to have the same issue (Mozilla comes to my mind, but it won't be just them). Jan 2016-08-02 19:36 GMT+02:00 Edward Galvez <egal...@wikimedia.org>: > A note that WMF had security issues in the past with Limesurveys. I > believe these were fixed, but I'm not sure. > > We use qualtrics at the WMF for any major surveys and we do share our > account with affiliates & other communities. However, we do have a limit of > 2,000 per user. > > Happy to chat more about this Jan! > > Best, > Edward > > -- > Edward Galvez > Evaluation Strategist (surveys) > Affiliations Committee Liaison > Learning & Evaluation team > Wikimedia Foundation > > ___ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ User Research Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] [WikimediaMobile] Mobile Wikipedia, Commons, Wikidata, and Pokémon
In regards to smartphones in general: I suppose editing Wikipedia as a general activity is unlikely to be great no matter how good our apps are. Screen and Keyboard don't lend themselves for editing (longer) prose. However, with stuart’s and pine’s idea of using OSM and GPS for photos we would use what smartphones and their users are good at. Also, adding data to existing items on wikidata or correcting typos on Wikipedia might be things that could be done well in an app that provides functionality geared towards that specific usecase. > this leaves the door open for competitors to remix our content with better interfaces, and also encourages potential contibutors to leave Wikimedia for places that provide nice, modern designs and user experiences. Interesting point. Are there ideas of how other's remixes could help to actually strengthen rather than weaken the project? Jan 2016-07-15 4:22 GMT+02:00 Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com>: > I was thinking along similar lines as Stuart, using OSM to navigate and > encouraging users to take photos of landmarks and other buildings where > that's permitted by FOP. Landmarks for which we have only small photos, old > photos (more than about 3 years), or no photos could be prioritized. > > Also, for readers, how about showing the readers an OSM view of the world > and noting which nearby features have Wikipedia articles as the users > navigate on the map? > > Finally, I'd like users to have emotionally rewarding experiences when > exploring our content, as well as creating new content or editing existing > content. Editing is painful on mobile, and even on desktop in VE there are > bugs which are frustrating. I'd like our tools to work properly, fast, and > intuitively. I realize that WMF has a limited budget, but our interface is > a ways from being a smooth and enjoyable experience, both on VE and on > wikitext. And for readers, I'd like to have robust multimedia search and > interactive features. We are far behind in our interfaces compared to sites > and apps that others provide, and I hope that we can close that gap within > the next two to three years. If WMF does not improve its interfaces > rapidly, this leaves the door open for competitors to remix our content > with better interfaces, and also encourages potential contibutors to leave > Wikimedia for places that provide nice, modern designs and user experiences. > > Pine > On Jul 14, 2016 15:03, "Stuart A. Yeates" <syea...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> A game built on a travel-photograph-upload loop would be a great way to >> build our depth of imagery. >> >> cheers >> stuart >> >> -- >> ...let us be heard from red core to black sky >> >> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Toby Negrin <tneg...@wikimedia.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Pine -- did you have any specific ideas? I spent some time in the >>> gaming industry and am familiar with Ingress, the game that Pokeman Go is >>> based on, as well as the theories behind mechanics/compulsion loops that >>> mobile games use. >>> >>> I'll share one general thought -- the research-edit-publish loop is a >>> great mechanism -- it's quick and easy and very gratifying, especially >>> combined with a google search. >>> >>> However, we've generally found that the notion that we use gaming >>> mechanics to encourage people to read or edit wikipedia does not have broad >>> support in our communities. >>> >>> -Toby >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi WMF Mobile and Research, >>>> >>>> I'm wondering if we (mostly meaning "you" but perhaps with external >>>> collaborators) have considered how the Wikipedia mobile apps, Wikipedia >>>> mobile web, the Wikidata game, and/or the Commons app could borrow some >>>> design ideas or features from Pokémon Go to make Wikimedia offerings more >>>> appealing, particularly to younger audiences. This would apply to content >>>> consumption and contribution, as well as community aspects of Wikimedia >>>> experiences, particularly on mobile platforms. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Pine >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Mobile-l mailing list >>>> mobil...@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >&
Re: [Wiki-research-l] Thinking big: scaling up Wikimedia's contributor population by two orders of magnitude
f those activities take place in libraries or museums (often museum >>> libraries). >>> >>> Until this year, the WMF showed no real interest in continuous >>> engagement and dialogue with the community that edits the projects. I >>> totally agree with the person who said WMF needs to have a marketing >>> department. This is especially true for the kinds of research which >>> marketers report on and are typical of any organization, profit or >>> non-profit. That would be a first step: Understanding who are the variety >>> of its users/editors from which it can then create action items to >>> determine how it can increase the number of users by going after specific >>> market segments. This would not eliminate the "anyone can edit" ethos, but >>> could be a more effective means to increasing users rather than appealing >>> to a broad public. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> >>> Bob Kosovsky, Ph.D. -- Curator, Rare Books and Manuscripts, >>> Music Division, The New York Public Library for the Performing Arts >>> blog: http://www.nypl.org/blog/author/44 Twitter: @kos2 >>> Listowner: OPERA-L ; SMT-ANNOUNCE ; SoundForge-users >>> - My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my institutions - >>> >>> *Inspiring Lifelong Learning* | *Advancing Knowledge* | *Strengthening >>> Our Communities * >>> >>> ___ >>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >> >> > > > -- > > *Dario Taraborelli *Head of Research, Wikimedia Foundation > wikimediafoundation.org • nitens.org • @readermeter > <http://twitter.com/readermeter> > > ___ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ User Research Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] Spreadsheet autoformatting errors, MRIs, and more reasons for open research
I found the first one (Excel errors) very interesting, in particular, because much of the coverage highlighted that a spreadsheet application is the wrong tool and that researchers should ditch it in favor of R or Python. This makes sense. However, it is rarely as easy as that much repeated sentence makes it sound. There are reasons why scientists use spreadsheets, and they may be ignored. Some ideas: - Excel is well known. An unfamiliar tool may do even more damage. - Import and Export are rather easy (preview) in in Excel or Calc. This concerns usecases like cleaning data, sharing data, quickly eyeballing… - Along the lines: Eyeballing! An underestimated topic said Tuckey, too, quite a while ago! (Exploratory Statistics). If you know the syntax, you can easily create diagrams in R. But a GUI is easier and quicker to use and leads probably to fewer errors. Totally absent from (most) statistical packages is conditional highlighting of cells. All in all: Exploratory statistics are important but much undeserved by (open source) software. In my opinion, yes, let's ditch Spreadsheets! But only after we can support the needs that is satisfies. Jan PS.: Some years ago, I did some minor qualitative research on use of statistical programs. If there is interest, I dig it up again. PPS.: For the eyeballing, Polestar is great ( https://github.com/vega/polestar ) and open source. 2016-08-28 21:02 GMT+02:00 Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com>: > Two articles of potential interest to medical and Wikimedia researchers: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/sunday/do-you- > believe-in-god-or-is-that-a-software-glitch.html > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/26/ > an-alarming-number-of-scientific-papers-contain-excel-errors/ > > > <https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/26/an-alarming-number-of-scientific-papers-contain-excel-errors/> > > Pine > > > <https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/26/an-alarming-number-of-scientific-papers-contain-excel-errors/> > > ___ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ User Research Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] article of note
Thanks for sharing! I only skimmed the article so far, I just wondered a bit about the use of learning styles. The existence of such styles is widely believed but are not much supported by educational or psychological research – so their results should probably be take with a grain of salt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_styles Nevertheless, I'm happy if Wikipedia does perform well :-) Jan 2016-10-04 0:37 GMT+02:00 James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com>: > I enjoyed https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster= > 4061737011161182722=en_sdt=0,6 > > CELL (BIOLOGY)-WIKIPEDIA LEARNING PERFORMANCE IN > RELATION TO COGNITIVE STYLES, LEARNING STYLES, AND > SCIENCE ABILITY OF STUDENTS: A HIERARCHICAL MULTIPLE > REGRESSION ANALYSIS > > "It is resulted that Wikipedia learning performance was better over > traditional approach." > > Best regards, > Jim > > ___ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ User Research Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Wikistats 2.0] [Regular Update] Wrapping up Q2
Hi Dan, Thanks for sharing! Can you (or somebody else) tell me where the ticket for "*7. [ ] Design UI to organize dashboards built around new data*" is? I'd be interested and I may be able to help. Jan 2016-12-03 17:38 GMT+01:00 Dan Andreescu <dandree...@wikimedia.org>: > We're starting to wrap up the calendar year, here's what we've > accomplished so far with Wikistats. We're really excited to have some data > in our production Hive database for people to play with. We worked really > hard to clean up and present an intuitive interface to all of mediawiki > history. The results are captured in the tables mentioned below, which > we'll cover more in an upcoming tech talk. Documentation for the project is > here <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Data_Lake>. > > Our goals so far and progress breakdown: > > 1. [done] Build pipeline to process and analyze *pageview* data > 2. [done] Load pageview data into an *API* > 3. [] *Sanitize* pageview data with more dimensions for public > consumption > 4. [ beta] Build pipeline to process and analyze *editing* data > 5. [ beta] Load editing data into an *API* > 6. [] *Sanitize* editing data for public consumption > 7. [] *Design* UI to organize dashboards built around new data > 8. [] Build enough *dashboards* to replace the main functionality > of stats.wikipedia.org > 9. [] Officially Replace stats.wikipedia.org with *(maybe) > analytics.wikipedia.org > <http://analytics.wikipedia.org/>* > ***. [ ] Bonus: *replace dumps generation* based on the new data > pipelines > > 4 & 5. Since our last update, we've finished the pipeline that imports > data from mediawiki databases, cleans it up as best as possible, reshapes > it in a analytics-friendly way, and makes it easily queryable. I'm marking > these goals as "beta" because we're still tweaking the algorithm for > performance and productionizing the jobs. This will be completed early > next quarter, but in the meantime we have data for people to play with > internally. Sadly we haven't sanitized it yet so we can't publish it. For > those with internal access: > > * https://pivot.wikimedia.org/#edit-history-test is the full history > across all wikis. It's a bit hard to understand how to slice and dice, so > we will host a tech talk and present it at the January metrics meeting if > we can. > > * In hive, you can access this data in the wmf database, the tables are: > - wmf.mediawiki_history: denormalized full history with this schema > <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Data_Lake/Mediawiki_history> > - wmf.mediawiki_page_history: the sequence of states of each wiki page > (schema > <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Data_Lake/Mediawiki_page_history> > ) > - wmf.mediawiki_user_history: the sequence of states of each user > account (schema > <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Data_Lake/Mediawiki_user_history> > ) > > 6. Sanitizing has not moved forward, as we need DBA time and they've been > overloaded. We will attempt to restart this effort in Q3. > > 7. We have begun the design process, we'll share more about this as we go. > > Our goals and planning for next quarter support us finishing 4, 5, 7, and > 8, so basically putting a UI on top of the data pipeline we have in place, > and updating it weekly. We also hope to have good progress on 6, but > that depends on collaboration with the DBA team and is harder than we > originally imagined. > > And remember, voice your opinions about important reports in the current > Wikistats here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Analytics/Wikistats/ > DumpReports/Future_per_report (thank you so so much to the many people > who already chimed in). > > ___ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ User Research Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] crowdsource question
Hi James, Just to understand better what you are interested in – Is this on questions on Wikipedia Articles which ask for an estimate of good, neutral or bad assertions (or generally sentiments) about a subject? Or are you more interested in the subject of lobbyism and company directed edits and the like? Jan 2016-12-01 4:12 GMT+01:00 James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com>: > Who, if anyone, is examining crowdsource survey > questions such as, "Look at the text added or > removed in this edit to [Company]'s Wikipedia > article. Was the editor saying [ ] good things, [ ] > bad things, or [ ] was neutral about [Company]'s > financial prospects?"? > > Best regards, > Jim > > ___ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ User Research Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editors: research on transitions, learning over time, leaving
I don't want to stop the conversation and just want to thank you all for
the great input so far. I have not been able to read it all yet, but I hope
I get to do it soon :-)
Jan
2017-03-23 7:06 GMT+01:00 Kerry Raymond <kerry.raym...@gmail.com>:
> > A few years ago the WMF did a survey of former editors, partly to
> > learn why they'd left. One of the most common responses was "I haven't
> left yet".
>
> With the benefit of hindsight (a wonderful thing), that might be a bad way
> to have asked the question. A better way might have been to ask why they
> are no longer active and what circumstances/change would be likely to make
> them active again. What we really want to know if the reasons for
> inactivity are internal/external to Wikipedia and whether the conditions
> for re-engagement are internal/external to Wikipedia. And for the internal
> ones, we'd like to know more specifically what they are.
>
> "I haven't left yet, but as soon as my new baby has started school, I
> might have the time for Wikipedia again" (i.e. the cause of inactivity and
> return to activity is outside of Wikipedia's control). There is not a lot
> Wikipedia can do about such a contributors.
>
> "I left because I was sick and tired of the unpleasant way people behave,
> but I enjoyed contributing otherwise and would do so again if the culture
> was a lot nicer" is something that WP has some control over but not
> something you can fix in an afternoon.
>
> "I left because I just found it too hard, I kept forgetting when to use [[
> and when to use {{ and I never figured out that thing" is someone
> that we could potentially re-engage on the spot by saying "hey, try the
> Visual Editor!".
>
> Or maybe "I haven't left yet" is more literally true than we think. It is
> possible that the person is still active on Wikipedia but under a different
> user name or as an IP so they just appear to have become inactive under
> their former user name. If a person has had some unpleasant experiences on
> Wikipedia and that is why they became inactive, there are a lot of good
> reasons why they might not like to return under the same user name.
> Wikipedia has an infinitely long memory for things like bans and blocks and
> watch lists last forever. If you got yourself in trouble previously but you
> want to start afresh, you probably want to create a new account. If you had
> bad experiences with some other user who was regularly unpleasant to you,
> you would want a new account as they can watch your User page and Talk page
> forever to detect if you ever return. *Changing* your user name doesn't
> solve that problem, creating a new account does. And of course you may just
> have forgotten your username or your password and created a new account.
>
> Personally, I am inclined to think that the "I haven't left yet" editors
> (who aren't active under another user name) are probably effectively lost
> to us. Some other interest has almost certainly chewed up their spare time
> during their absence from Wikipedia. There's a big gap between "I'm not
> saying No" to "I'm saying Yes".
>
> The other issue is that even if the desired circumstances for
> re-engagement are in place, you still need some kind of way to communicate
> this fact to the "lost users". Given that providing an email address isn’t
> mandatory on creating an account, we can only communicate with those who
> did provide an email address and hope it is still an active one.
>
> For example, perhaps we should be emailing all the "lost users" (where we
> can) periodically and saying "Hey, try that Visual Editor" or "get involved
> with #1Lib1Ref" or mentioning some other positive thing that might convince
> them to give it another go.
>
> It's been said (and I really don't know if it's true) that people respond
> better to being needed than to being wanted. Maybe we can use that in
> Project Boomerang. Find an article that the lost user has made a lot of
> contributions to but which hasn't grown much since (ignoring all the
> re-categorisations, MoS enforcements, reverted vandalisms, and other edits
> that don't greatly enhance the information content of an article) and tell
> them that article XYZ needs them to come and keep it up-to-date.
>
> In sales, they often say it is 10x the effort to get a new customer than
> to retain an existing one. Maybe instead of putting effort into onboarding
> new users (who we have to put through a massive learning curve very fast or
> watch them die the slow death of many reverts and AfC rejections), we
> should put more effort into re-engaging lost users (there's less of a
> learning curve t
[Wiki-research-l] Editors: research on transitions, learning over time, leaving
Hello, I am looking for research on how editors transition through various levels of involvement in their time as editors. The questions I ask myself are: - How many people to come each month? - How many editors leave? …those are not too difficult to answer but… - How many people become more involved over time? E.g. How many each month come to a level where they are interested in handling many pages on the watchlist, learn the less obvious aspects of wiki culture etc. In my work as designer I am often involved in features for intermediate and/or very involved users and I’m wondering if there are any ballpark estimates of how many people learn these features each month. Jan -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ User Research Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] Digital engagement / digital volunteer work
Hi Julian,
A resource I found generally useful as entry point to academic research in
the field is Building Successful Online Communities (Kraut, Resnick).
I am aware of some successful citizen science like GalaxyZoo where people
can help to classify photos of galaxies and there are also some predigital
examples of citizen science like Butterfly counts (see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_science)
Jan
2017-04-04 12:45 GMT+02:00 Julian Fischer <julian.fisc...@wikimedia.de>:
> Hi all,
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland is planning a workshop (June 23, 2017) on digital
> engagement / digital volunteer work.
>
> The aim of the workshop is to identify with other stakeholders ("classic"
> NGOs, Free- and Open-Movement, Volunteers, state authorities) open
> questions on digital engagement / digital volunteer work that should be
> answered.
>
> Research questions could be as follows:
> - What is the difference between digital and analog engagement?
> - What are the core characteristic of digital engagement?
> - What should state authorities on the national and local level do in order
> to support digital volunteers?
> - How important is digital engagement for our society?
> - ...
>
> Is there anybody from the Wikimedia movement who can help us to broaden our
> German perspective and give us international insides on this topic (e.g.
> via a ten minutes video message)?
>
> Do you know any inspiring study?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Julian Fischer
> Head of Volunteer Support
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | D-10963 Berlin
> Tel. +49-(0)30 219 158 26-0
> http://wikimedia.de
>
> Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen
> Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
> http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
>
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[Wiki-research-l] (qualitative?) Wiki Researchers at Wikimania?
Hello Wikiresearchers, I wondered who of us is at Wikimania (maybe there is a subpage somewhere to write one’s names in?) I would be particularly interested in meeting with people who use qualitative and ethnographic methods, but I don't mind a chat about statistics either :-) Jan -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ User Research Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] Fwd: [Design] Design in the Era of the Algorithm
Thanks! My rule of thumb is to see if my underlying data lends itself to being shown in a scatterplot or histogram; they nicely show that e.g. an average is not "the one true value". But I know that this may not be possible with multidimensional, very large datasets. Jan 2017-06-17 10:22 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>: > Hoi, > Thanks, this [1] is what I did with it and I use it on Facebook to get > attention to cooperation. > GerardM > > http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2017/06/wikidata- > vs-geonames-first-to-throw.html > > On 16 June 2017 at 21:08, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Perhaps of interest. > > > > Pine > > > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: Chris Koerner <ckoer...@wikimedia.org> > > Date: Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 8:31 AM > > Subject: [Design] Design in the Era of the Algorithm > > To: des...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > Josh Clark on design principles for addressing flaws in machine learning. > > (via waxy.org)\ > > > > "The answer machines have an overconfidence problem. It’s not only a > > data-science problem that the algorithm returns bad conclusions. It’s a > > problem of presentation: the interface suggests that there’s one true > > answer, offering it up with a confidence that is unjustified. > > > > So this is a design problem, too. The presentation fails to set > appropriate > > expectations or context, and instead presents a bad answer with > > matter-of-fact assurance. As we learn to present machine-originated > > content, we face a very hard question: how might we add some productive > > humility to these interfaces to temper their overconfidence? > > > > I have ideas." > > > > https://bigmedium.com/speaking/design-in-the-era-of-the-algorithm.html > > > > Yours, > > Chris Koerner > > Community Liaison - Discovery > > Wikimedia Foundation > > > > ___ > > Design mailing list > > des...@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design > > ___ > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > ___ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ User Research Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Analytics] A new landing page for the Wikimedia Research team
For people being interested in i18n, have a look at the design team’s research in i18n-ized Static Site Generators: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164449 Jan 2018-02-08 20:20 GMT+00:00 Jonathan Morgan <jmor...@wikimedia.org>: > Quick heads up that there's now a Phab tag[1] for the landing page. Please > feel free to use this tag to document issues and feature requests. > > Thanks, > Jonathan > > 1. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/3243/ > > On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 8:46 AM, Jonathan Morgan <jmor...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > > > Aaron: I'll ask Baha about the issue tracking... *issue* today. The code > > is hosted on Gerrit now, with a one-way mirror on this GitHub repo[1], > > which is not ideal from an openness/collaboration POV. For me, enabling > > easy issue tracking and pull requests is the most pressing issue. In the > > meantime, you can submit tasks through Phab. Add them to the Research > > board[2] and/or as subtasks of our Landing Page creation epic[3]. Not > > ideal, but at least you can capture things this way. > > > > Federico: Translation via translatewiki would be very cool. We haven't > > prioritized this because, well, none of our on-wiki research team pages > > were ever translated, and this microsite is intended to supplement our > > on-wiki content, not replace it. But it sounds like a potential 'roadmap' > > kinda deal and I'll make sure to track it. > > > > Iolanda: this is the landing page for the Wikimedia Foundation Research > > team[4], not for the international community of researchers who study > > Wiki[*]edia. It's also not the landing page for all researchers and > > research activities within the Wikimedia Foundation--just those of team > > members (and Aaron, whose Scoring Platform team is a kind of spin > > off/sibling of the research team). > > > > Thanks everyone for the feedback so far. Keep it coming, > > > > Jonathan > > > > 1. https://github.com/wikimedia/research-landing-page > > 2. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/research/ > > 3. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107389 > > 4. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research > > > > On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 8:09 AM, Aaron Halfaker <aaron.halfa...@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > >> Hey folks, I see you're using github[1], but you've disabled the issue > >> tracker there. Where should I submit bug reports and feature requests? > >> Maybe you could add a link next to "source code" at the bottom of the > >> page. > >> > >> 1. https://github.com/wikimedia/research-landing-page > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Aaron Halfaker < > aaron.halfa...@gmail.com > >> > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Depends on which standard. This is not a wiki page so it won't be > >> > translatable using the on-wiki translate tools. However, it's quite > >> > possible that we could use something like translatewiki.net. I'm not > >> > sure if that is on the road map. Dario, what do you think? > >> > > >> > On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 1:31 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) < > >> nemow...@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> Will it be translatable with standard tools? > >> >> > >> >> Federico > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ___ > >> >> Wiki-research-l mailing list > >> >> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > >> Wiki-research-l mailing list > >> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Jonathan T. Morgan > > Senior Design Researcher > > Wikimedia Foundation > > User:Jmorgan (WMF) <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jmorgan_(WMF)> > > > > > > > -- > Jonathan T. Morgan > Senior Design Researcher > Wikimedia Foundation > User:Jmorgan (WMF) <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jmorgan_(WMF)> > ___ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ User Research Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] OpenSym 2018 | August 22-24, 2018 | Paris, France | General Call for Papers | Deadline March 15, 2018
ubmitted > >>>> papers. Rather, reviewers will be instructed to weigh the > >>>> contribution of a paper relative to its length. Papers should > >>>> report > >>>> research thoroughly but succinctly: brevity is a virtue. A > typical > >>>> length of a “long research paper” is 10 pages (formerly the > maximum > >>>> length limit and the limit on OpenSym tracks), but may be shorter > >>>> if > >>>> the contribution can be described and supported in fewer > >>>> pages—shorter, more focused papers (called “short research > papers” > >>>> previously) are encouraged and will be reviewed like any other > >>>> paper. While we will review papers longer than 10 pages, the > >>>> contribution must warrant the extra length. Reviewers will be > >>>> instructed to reject papers whose length is incommensurate with > the > >>>> size of their contribution. Papers should be formatted in ACM > >>>> SIGCHI > >>>> paper format. Reviewing is not double-blind so manuscripts do not > >>>> need to be anonymized. > >>>> Posters: As in previous years, OpenSym will also be hosting a > >>>> poster > >>>> session at the conference. To propose a poster, authors should > >>>> submit an extended abstract (not more than 4 pages) describing > the > >>>> content of the poster which will be published in a non-archival > >>>> companion proceedings to the conference. Posters should use the > ACM > >>>> SIGCHI templates for extended abstracts. An example of a poster > >>>> abstract can be found here. Reviewing is not double-blind so > >>>> abstracts do not need to be anonymized. > >>>> Paper Proceedings: OpenSym is held in-cooperation with ACM SIGWEB > >>>> and ACM SIGSOFT and the conference proceedings will be archived > in > >>>> the ACM digital library like all prior editions. OpenSym seeks to > >>>> accommodate the needs of the different research disciplines it > >>>> draws > >>>> on including disciplines with archival conference proceedings and > >>>> disciplines where authors usually present at conferences and > >>>> publish > >>>> later. Authors, whose submitted papers have been accepted for > >>>> presentation at the conference have a choice of: > >>>> having their paper become part of the official proceedings, > >>>> archived > >>>> in the ACM Digital Library, > >>>> having their paper published in the conference website only, with > >>>> no > >>>> transfer of copyright from the authors, > >>>> having no publication record at all but only the presentation at > >>>> the > >>>> conference. > >>>> Response from authors: For the second time at OpenSym, authors > will > >>>> be given the opportunity to write a response to their reviews > >>>> before > >>>> final decisions are made. This should be treated as an > opportunity > >>>> to correct any mistakes or misconceptions in the reviews as well > as > >>>> to propose minor changes that the authors can make during the two > >>>> weeks between notification and the camera-ready deadline. > >>>> Important Dates > >>>> Submission deadline: March 15, 2018 > >>>> Reviews sent to authors: May 11, 2018 > >>>> Response to reviews from authors due: May 20, 2018 > >>>> Final decision notification: June 15, 2018 > >>>> Camera-ready papers due: June 22, 2018 > >>>> Papers available online: July 13, 2018 > >>>> Conference Organization > >>>> The general chairs of the conference are Nicolas Jullien and > >>>> Olivier > >>>> Berger, IMT, France. Feel free to contact us with any questions > you > >>>> might have at i...@opensym.org <mailto:i...@opensym.org>. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- Maître de Conférences (HDR) / Associate Professor. > >>>> https://nicolasjullien.wp.mines-telecom.fr/ > >>>> <https://nicolasjullien.wp.mines-telecom.fr/> > >>>> > >>>> Directeur de M@rsouin http://www.marsouin.org > >>>> Membre du LEGO http://labo-lego.fr > >>>> > >>>> Responsable du M2 management innovation > >>>> parcours Mgt du SI et des données @ischool IMT Atlantique > >>>> https://innovationmanagement.wp.imt.fr/ > >>>> <https://innovationmanagement.wp.imt.fr/> > >>>> > >>>> -- Maître de Conférences (HDR) / Associate Professor. > >>>> https://nicolasjullien.wp.mines-telecom.fr/ > >>>> <https://nicolasjullien.wp.mines-telecom.fr/> > >>>> > >>>> Directeur de M@rsouin http://www.marsouin.org > >>>> Membre du LEGO http://labo-lego.fr > >>>> > >>>> Responsable du M2 management innovation > >>>> parcours Mgt du SI et des données @ischool IMT Atlantique > >>>> https://innovationmanagement.wp.imt.fr/ > >>>> <https://innovationmanagement.wp.imt.fr/> > >>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list > >>>> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >>>> <mailto:Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > >>>> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Maître de Conférences (HDR) / Associate Professor. > >>> https://nicolasjullien.wp.mines-telecom.fr/ > >>> > >>> Directeur de M@rsouin http://www.marsouin.org > >>> Membre du LEGO http://labo-lego.fr > >>> > >>> Responsable du M2 management innovation > >>> parcours Mgt du SI et des données @ischool IMT Atlantique > >>> https://innovationmanagement.wp.imt.fr/ > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> Wiki-research-l mailing list > >>> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> Wiki-research-l mailing list > >> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > >> > >> > > ___ > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > ___ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ User Research Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] User type context sensitivity to introdcution section.
> but you are correct in that many articles don’t follow the manual of style > as they lack introductions that are in clear, jargon free English. It might be interesting to find out what trade-offs people perceive when writing these introductions. How does one write simply, yet "correct" (particularly not create impressions that are "wrong" from an experts standpoint)? I assume this is hard, and it might be very tempting to lean to the expert’s judgement. It is just an hypothesis, but in case it has something to it, a lot of introductions manage the wicked problem quite well. Jan Am Sa., 9. Feb. 2019 um 09:52 Uhr schrieb Jonathan Cardy < werespielchequ...@gmail.com>: > Dear Aaron, > > The policy is already that the introduction should be suitable for a lay > reader, but you are correct in that many articles don’t follow the manual > of style as they lack introductions that are in clear, jargon free English. > What would be useful from the research community is some research on the > sorts of barriers and maybe even a way of finding articles whose leads > might need rewriting. Or even research on the size of the problem. > > Jonathan > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > > > From: Wiki-research-l on > behalf of Aaron Gray > Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 9:44 pm > To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities > Subject: [Wiki-research-l] User type context sensitivity to introdcution > section. > > I am suggesting WikiPedia has context-sensitive articles so if you are a > kid or a layperson or an expert in a field you get a different > introduction. Often the reason people don't read WikiPedia articles is they > are too complex at the start. > > This needs facilitating by WikiMedia technology. > > Thoughts and ideas and possible implementation ideas on this idea are > welcomed. > > Regards, > > Aaron > > -- > Aaron Gray > > Independent Open Source Software Engineer, Computer Language Researcher, > Information Theorist, and amateur computer scientist. > ___ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > _______ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > -- Jan Dittrich Teamleitung UX/Design Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] New paper - Indigenous knowledge on Wikipedia
rlding processes? > >> Drawing from media studies, indigenous studies and science and > technology > >> studies, we adopt an ecological perspective (Star, 2010) to analyse the > >> complex relationships and interactions between knowledge practices, > >> ecosystems and infrastructures. The material presented in this paper is > the > >> result of the group of participants’ collective reflection digested by > one > >> Atikamekw Nehirowisiw and two settlers. Each co-writer then brings > his/her > >> own expertise and speaks from what he or she knows and has been trained > >> for. > >> > >> Casemajor N., Gentelet K., Coocoo C. (2019), « Openness, Inclusion and > >> Self-Affirmation: Indigenous knowledge in Open Knowledge Projects », > >> *Journal > >> of Peer Production*, no13, pp. 1-20. > >> > >> > >> More info about the Atikamekw Wikipetcia project and the involvement > >> of Wikimedia Canada: > >> > >> https://ca.wikimedia.org/…/Atikamekw_knowledge,_culture_and… > >> < > >> > https://ca.wikimedia.org/wiki/Atikamekw_knowledge,_culture_and_language_in_Wikimedia_projects?fbclid=IwAR1PynlNUrZcRSIIu9WwcKhp0QjE_UqPz2O8_KNZxnsrTGQYKoLyOMuvh10 > >>> > >> ___ > >> Wiki-research-l mailing list > >> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > >> > > ___ > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > ___ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ Research Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
[Wiki-research-l] Generalizability of research across different language versions
Hello researchers, A lot of research on Wikipedia is published in English and also uses the English Wikipedia as source of data or researchers get their participants via English Wikipedia [0]. A frequent criticism I meet when discussing such research with non-en.wp community members is that their Wikipedia is different and the results of en.wp base research are problematic/incomparable/totally useless. So I want to ask: - Do you know of research comparing different Wikis, preferably across language versions? [1] - How would you deal with such criticism, particularly of the "if it is not about 'my' wp it is useless"-kind [2]? Kind Regards, Jan [0] Plausible due to academi fields, particularly Computer Science, publishing mainly in english, size and WMF as actor being US-based. [1] I know of »revisiting "The Rise and Decline" in a Population of Peer Production Projects« (https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=3173929), comparing different Wikia-Wikis; Research like "limits of self-organization" (https://firstmonday.org/article/view/1405/1323) that refer to general principles of peer production. Comparisons of Wikipedias across languages and the impact of their different contexts, languages and regulations would be very interesting to me. [2] I'm aware that making heterogeneous things comparable is seen as a core academic/scientific activity in STS research (Law, SL Star, Turnbull…) so I do not want to say, transfer to a different setting is not a problem – but it is certainly not "totally useless" either. -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ Research Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] Does wikipedians feel like commoners ?
Even aside from their fall from grace, > …widely-read-at-the-time analyses… I guess, one would read "Cathedral and the Bazaar" as historically influential text today, I am not sure how "strong" it is as analysis of commons based systems in the first place. Jan Am So., 8. Dez. 2019 um 02:27 Uhr schrieb Stuart A. Yeates < syea...@gmail.com>: > It's worth noting that while Richard Stallman and Eric S. Raymond > played important roles historically and published > widely-read-at-the-time analyses, both have had significant falls from > grace since then and basing current analyses of the commons and other > systems on their work should be done _very_ carefully. > > cheers > stuart > > -- > ...let us be heard from red core to black sky > > On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 at 11:39, Todd Allen wrote: > > > > If you're looking for general history on the digital commons movement, > > check out Richard Stallman and the Free Software Foundation, and Eric S. > > Raymond's *The Cathedral and the Bazaar*. A lot of the initial > Wikipedians > > were very much in favor of open source and open content, and were quite > > familiar with those. I don't, to be quite honest, know about "E. Ostrom", > > and have never heard them discussed on-wiki, but of course other editors > > might be. > > > > But if you really want to see the influence of the "commons" idea on > > Wikipedia, the open source software movement is going to be very relevant > > to what you want to look at. Mediawiki, the software that Wikipedia and > > other Wikimedia sites run on, is open source, and the technology stack > > underlying it is as well. > > > > On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 9:05 AM Sebastien Shulz < > sebastien.sh...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I'm currently doing a Ph.d on digital commons. I'm tracing the history > of > > > the "digital common" movement (if there is one). And I wanted to know > if > > > there are some studies about Wikipedians and their relation with the > > > conceptual framework of the commons (do they feel like commoners ? Do > they > > > know E. Ostrom, etc.) > > > Thanks a lot for your help ! > > > Best regards, > > > > > > *Sébastien Shulz* > > > *Doctorant en sociologie * > > > *Laboratoire Interdisciplinaire Sciences Innovations Sociétés* > > > *06.68.86.68.46 // Linkedin < > https://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastien-shulz>* > > > ___ > > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > > ___ > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > ___ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ Research Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] Power law and contributions:
Hello, Thanks for the answers so far. As Pine asked what my interest is: As a Designer and Researcher I co-create features that might have unintended consequences in the long run. Thus I find it important to look at larger patterns. As for the question why I looked at the edit count: From my own experiences and observations and based on Dariusz’ Ethnography [1] it seems that how many edits someone has is relevant for many editors and that having many edits is seen as good. Also many mass edits are done with “bespoke code” [2] which might have interesting (positive and negative) consequences for editors, since it is neither a matter of user interface nor of immediate personal behaviour (which seem to be frequently discussed as problematic) As for the question if the edit count distribution is a "good way" to look at how power is distributed in communities: It is but one way to look at it, but given the status that [1] assigns to the edit count and the influence that bespoke code [2] has on it, I think it is worth a look among many other interesting things. That power (or having many edits) does not equal having a great time (as both Kerry and Pine remarked) and that power is not always explicit (as in Editor-Administrator) is known to me and very relevant (I find this has been well discussed by Jo Freeman [3], too) My question led to two longer answers and Pine pointed out that "we may have given you a lot more than you had in mind when you asked your question" I am interested if there are reasons why. I am very happy about getting detailed answers but sometimes such answers also hint to concerns of which I am not aware – like the mail which got a bit more detailed due to the impression that looking at edit count distributions and its possible relations to community health might be seen as concerning. Kind Regards, Jan PS.: I might be slow in responding. [1] Jemielniak, Dariusz. 2015. *Common Knowledge?: An Ethnography of Wikipedia*. Reprint. Stanford, Calif: STANFORD UNIV PR, p7, p41: "For a significant portion of the Wikipedia community the number of edits is an important measure of value, often more important than whether a user is an admin. Edit count, even more than participation in community discussion, is perceived as legitimization…" [2] Geiger, R. Stuart. 2014. „Bots, bespoke, code and the materiality of software platforms“. *Information, Communication & Society* 17 (3): 342–56. [3] https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm Am Do., 23. Jan. 2020 um 05:23 Uhr schrieb Pine W : > Hi Jan, > > I think that we may have given you a lot more than you had in mind when you > asked your question. I'm aware that you were thinking of "power law" in a > way that can be very different than "power dynamics", but I have the latter > more on my mind, partially because of recent discussions on Wikimedia-l > related to strategy. > > I remain interested in knowing what the goal of your research is. > > I'll be busy with non-Wikimedia activities for the next few days, but I'll > try to get back to the Wikiverse by this Saturday. If you don't hear back > from me after about two weeks then please feel free to email me off list if > you'd like me to follow up. In the meantime, Kerry and other capable people > may be able to help with any further questions regarding your research > interests. > > Best wishes, > > Pine > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) > ___ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ Research Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
[Wiki-research-l] Power law and contributions:
Hello Researchers, Contribution patterns in online communities follow a power distribution which is known as the 1% rule [1], as Wikipedia told me. However, the steepness of the distribution can be more or less strong: 50% of your edits could be contributed by 2% or by 0.002%, the latter showing a stronger imbalance. I wonder if there are any estimates/rules-of-thumb of what imbalance is problematic when seen from the perspective of community health. I also wonder if there is research on how technology contributes to such imbalances and how it might be mitigated – e.g training, user-friendliness, documentation… (based on my assumption that a steep curve is less desirable, since the power is more concentrated, the system more fragile and the redistribution of power more constrained) Jan [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_(Internet_culture) -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ Research Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research, most influential and most surprising?
Hello, I guess it is hard to define a canon. For me, personally, it would be - "The rise and decline…", as it gives a good model for declining editor numbers [1] - "Trace Ethnography" which has been influential in digital ethnography [2] - "Wikipedia and the politics of openness" [3] as it views Wikipedia much through the lens of critical theory. Jan [1] Halfaker, Aaron, R. Stuart Geiger, Jonathan T. Morgan, and John Riedl. “The Rise and Decline of an Open Collaboration System: How Wikipedia’s Reaction to Popularity Is Causing Its Decline.” *American Behavioral Scientist* 57, no. 5 (2013): 664–88. [2] Geiger, R. S., and D. Ribes. “Trace Ethnography: Following Coordination through Documentary Practices.” In *2011 44th Hawaii International Conference on System Sciences*, 1–10, 2011. https://doi.org/10.1109/HICSS.2011.455. [3] Tkacz, Nathaniel. *Wikipedia and the Politics of Openness*. Chicago ; London: University of Chicago Press, 2014 Am Fr., 24. Juli 2020 um 06:35 Uhr schrieb Sven Andersson < sven.andersson.w...@outlook.com>: > Hi everyone! I'm looking for some reading. I hope this is an acceptable > use of this list. > > Which are the core Wikipedia papers, that shaped understanding Wikipedia > and Wikipedia research? > > Which are the papers or other research that taught you the most unexpected > things about Wikipedia and ran contrary to your preconceived notions about > the encyclopedia? > > M v h, Sven > ___ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > -- Jan Dittrich UX Design/ Research Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
