[Wiki-research-l] Regular contributor

users (Wikimedia Statistics, May 2008). What do you think about this definition? Kind regards Ziko van Dijk -- Ziko van Dijk NL-Silvolde ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Regular contributor

arbitrary. Find the overall profile. Define your questions. Determine the selection threshold and be ready to defend your picks with previous research or common sense. Ziko van Dijk wrote: Hello, From time to time I ask myself (and others) what is a regular contributor to a Wikipedia

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Regular contributor

(perceived and edit frequency) match or mismatch in the future. It is through reviewing previous work that you can make solid advance, though sometimes it is felt to be a drag. hanteng Ziko van Dijk wrote: Dear Han-Teng, Thank you for the substantial answer, which helps me to go

Re: [Wiki-research-l] The survey is finally here

that many Wikimedians answer. Does anybody know how long the survey will take, and when the results are going to be published? Ziko van Dijk -- Ziko van Dijk NL-Silvolde ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Regular contributor

mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l -- Ziko van Dijk NL-Silvolde ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

[Wiki-research-l] End user programming

A lecture from googe techtalks, maybe also interesting for Wikipedians. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxpjGZinies Kind regards Ziko -- Ziko van Dijk NL-Silvolde ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Help to solve three doubts on Wikipedia research data

really collected, currently, as far as I know) ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l -- Ziko van Dijk NL-Silvolde

Re: [Wiki-research-l] my ph. d. -- still formulating a research question

be a good start to have look at the many projects to collaboratively write textbooks, they exist also in English I am sure. You could study them and tell what are the obstacles they are struggling with? Kind regards Ziko van Dijk 2010/11/23 Joe Corneli holtzerman...@gmail.com: So far, the best

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Anonymous users

they don't register. Some statistics: http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm#anonymous Kind regards Ziko van Dijk 2011/5/17 Giovanni Luca Ciampaglia ciamp...@usi.ch: Hello list, Some time ago I was reading a blog created by a group of editors of the Italian Wikipedia for the 10 years

Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l -- Ziko van Dijk The Netherlands http://zikoblog.wordpress.com/ ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wikimedia Research Newsletter launched

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Very good

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Introduction and a simple question

Hello, Of course, there are several ways of writing a Wikipedia language version's history, if that is the objective. Andrew Lih's work I wouldn't call sloppy, but rather an essayist approach as it suits well in the world of journalism. As a historian I would do things different, certainly.

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research areas

Hello, Great list; I will have a closer look later. Sometimes I have the impression that Wikipedia research is mostly counting bits and bytes and less qualitative research in the field of 'social sciences'. Kind regards Ziko 2012/10/4 Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.pl: I'd definitely add the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal…

Hello, I find it a very good idea (I expressed it in 2008 or 2009); the focus should be somewhat defined, e..g wiki's and open content; and it should be done in a way that others respect the journal. Kind regards Ziko 2012/11/2 Juliana Bastos Marques domusau...@gmail.com: As far as my experience

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal?

This is exactly my problem nowadays. I am a historian and don't have much to say about software and data mining, but would like to read more about the humanities approach with regard to Wikipedia. Readers experiences and expectations, Wikipedia in school and university etc. Kind regards Ziko

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Documenting WMF-related data souces: some questions to help me do it better.

Hello, Maybe this is related: on meta wiki we try to instigate a collection of information about the WM movement. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Research Kind regards Ziko Am Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2013 schrieb Maria Miteva : Hi everyone, I am working on

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Readable characters vs. size in bytes of articles

Hello, When in 2008 I made some observations on language versions, it struck me that in some cases the wikisyntax and the meta article information was more KB than the whole encyclopedic content of an article. For example, the wikicode of the article Berlin in Upper Sorabian consisted of more than

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Estimate of vandal population

So Piotr, if I understand you well it is about the question how many of the people who are our contributors according to the statistics (per 5 edits a month, or 100 edits a month) are actually vandals? I could imagine that some vandals manage to make 5 edits before being blocked, or lose interest

Re: [Wiki-research-l] identifying Wikipedia article topics

Hello Amir, The question rising would be for me: what do you use the classification for? Depending on that you can get a lot different answers. The biography of Otto von Bismarck may be in the category history, the biography of Justin Bieber in entertainment. Kind regards Ziko 2014-03-18 8:31

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Looking for example of experts contribution fails

Hello, Wozniak scratches the subject here: Zehn Jahre Berührungsängste: Die Geschichtswissenschaften und die Wikipedia. Eine Be-standsaufnahme, in: Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften 60/3 (2012), S. 247-264. Thomas Wozniak Kind regards Ziko 2014-03-28 20:17 GMT+01:00 Pierre Willaime

Re: [Wiki-research-l] How fast is Wikipedia?

Hello, Maybe those who died recently have fairly up to date articles because of the recent attention. I once looked at the article of a German politician who is already out of office for some years, but who had left party. I compared articles in different language versions whether they were

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Quality on different language version

Dear Anders, Thank you for bringing this up. My experience is that there is still a huge gap between computer-based quantity-oriented studies and human-based selective sample quality-oriented studies. I published in 2009 a paper on small or weak articles but I am afraid that it was too much a

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Quality on different language version

, the vast number of battle themes. Discussion of historiographic approaches to concepts is usually quite rare and badly written. Anyone willing to conduct comparative research on quality of History-related articles, please drop me a note! Juliana. On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Ziko van

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Tool to find poorly written articles

Hello, What do you exactly mean by poorly written? Dnaber presented on Wikimania a LanguageTool to detect wordings that might be incorrect. Kind regards Ziko Am Freitag, 24. Oktober 2014 schrieb Aaron Halfaker : Hi Ditty! Since Aileen is on vacation (lol), I've got some references for you.

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Tool to find poorly written articles

Hello Ditty, It is difficult for me to understand your question if you are not more specific of what you consider a poorly written article. Poorly can refer her to many different things, like readability, grammar, balance, statements supported by 'sources', good division of knowledge over several

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Tool to find poorly written articles

. with regards Ditty On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Ditty, It is difficult for me to understand your question if you are not more specific of what you consider a poorly written article. Poorly can refer her to many different things, like

Re: [Wiki-research-l] FW: Research discussion: Visions for Wikipedia

Hello, I find the systemic approach very interesting and would like to become more familiar with it in time. My impression is that the key to understand the problems of Wikipedia is looking at communications, and that is why I am grateful for the work we have seen by David and others in the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] (no subject)

Hello, With all admiration for the maths, I think that we can learn from these figures less than we might hope to. In these statistics I often see a strangly high proportion of traffic from the US or other countries that is difficult to explain. Why, for example, should there be to many people in

Re: [Wiki-research-l] The definition of a wiki

Thank you very much for the link! Ziko 2015-02-21 15:52 GMT+01:00 Ward Cunningham w...@c2.com: Try this: http://c2.com/doc/etymology.html On Feb 21, 2015, at 6:12 AM, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@gmail.com wrote: Dear colleagues, I am looking for a scientific definition of a wiki, and several

[Wiki-research-l] The definition of a wiki

Dear colleagues, I am looking for a scientific definition of a wiki, and several works that actually deal a lot about wikis have let me down. Do you know where to look, or is there an authoritative definition anywhere? Kind regards Ziko ___

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Community health (retitled thread)

Hello, As far as it is about me, I can say that I left wikimedia-l twice or three times. I left mainly because of the high amount of mails, also often not very useful mails, witty remarks in 1-2 lines for example. But I think that this is a good example for a quantitative research that should

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Community health (retitled thread)

to asses newbies. Kind regards Ziko 2015-06-05 14:46 GMT+02:00 Juergen Fenn jf...@gmx.net: Hello Ziko, Am 05.06.2015 um 09:33 schrieb Ziko van Dijk zvand...@gmail.com: But I think that this is a good example for a quantitative research that should later lead you

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Aidez à améliorer l'exhaustivité de Wikipédia en français

Spamming - a question what the e-mail function of WP is ment for. I was very surprised to get the request though my French is limited, I hardly ever edited on fr.WP, and the suggested topics have totally nothing to do with what I do on Wikipedia. So I do think that the mail was not quite

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Aidez à améliorer l'exhaustivité de Wikipédia en français

2015-06-26 20:40 GMT+02:00 Leila Zia le...@wikimedia.org: Hi everyone, the way the algorithm makes the final recommendations is language agnostic Obviously. :-) I'm sorry if the recommendation has disappointed you. As mentioned in the recommendation email, you will be in one of the two

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Reinforcing or incentivizing desired user behavior

Hello, that's this one: http://www.raphkoster.com/tag/wikimania/ 2015-10-06 20:42 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > There was a presentation about game theory at WIkimania in London... Quite > interesting. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 6 October 2015 at 17:29,

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wikidata quality

Hello, If I consider a qualitative approach, maybe it might be useful to talk to Wikipedians what exactly are their concerns and what to do in order to overcome them. A lot of Wikidata information does not really need a 'source', similarly as in Wikipedia itself. I believe that a lot of

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Data on editathons held in each Wikipedia Language?

Hello, I am not sure whether I understood well your first sentence - what is a "gendered biography" of a Wikipedia language? You use the term "editaton". What is this exactly? I met at least three different uses: * an informal meeting of Wikipedians, to sit together and work on their laptops,

Re: [Wiki-research-l] ORES going into production

Hello, Thanks for the mail. Actually, I read these documentation pages (again and again) and I still don't unterstand it. Imagine, I have seen a specific edit: https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reiss-Engelhorn-Museen=1176135=17646=17077 Where is the page with a form where I can

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research on automatically created articles

Hello, Do we have a collection of already existing and relevant policies and statements, at least for English Wikipedia? On Meta I found this page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_Research_Management which main statement is that research is too various and complex to give some

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research on automatically created articles

Dear Sidd, Thank you for your multiple replies to this list. I am happy to see the commitment to find the balance between research needs and the needs and ethics for a complicated website/community as Wikipedia is. I hope that the comments on this list don't shock you, even if they appear

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research on automatically created articles

Hello Denny, I agree with all three points. The experiment reminds me of "babelfish accidents" as we called them in de.WP, and the experimemts of Google and Microsoft to "support" "translations" between Wikipedias. Very strange this repeating "Dick Barbour is legendary in..." Kind regards Ziko

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Patriotic editing hypothesis

Hello, In my 2009 study I have looked at some Wikipedias and compared geographika articles with regard to the language in question. There is a theoreme by the socioloinguist Heinz Kloss about the "eigenbezogene Themen", topics, that are related to the own specific linguistic community. According

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Journal of Wiki Studies

It would be great to have a journal of this kind; I wonder about the description so far, whether it could be explained more systematically what wiki studies are supposed to be. I am busy with this question right now. Kind regards Ziko 2017-02-22 16:00 GMT+01:00 Jaqen : >

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Chapters

Hello Aisha, Indeed there is not much research on Wikimedia affiliates (chapters or other). What are you specifically interested in, for what research purpose? In sociology, history, management science? :-) Kind regards Ziko https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ziko 2017-01-10 12:56

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Models for developing underserved topics on Wikipedia

Hello, Does it have to be Wikipedia? Wikipedia is a reference work for "everybody", but not especially written for pupils in the primary education. We discussed this kind of issues at the foundation of the Klexikon, see our report in English:

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Studies 1:1 Released

Hello Robert, I saw the announcement on the other mailinglist. For now I only had the time for a brief look, but I am very happy with the initiative. Congratulations, Ziko Robert E. Cummings schrieb am Mi. 4. Okt. 2017 um 17:14: > Hi All: > > > I write to announce that

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Reader use of Wikipedia and Commons categories

Hello, A very interesting question. From my experience and talks with readers, I have the impression that readers usually take no notice of the categories. I could not find out why, because the category system may be indeed useful for at least some use cases. When it comes to Commons, I would be

[Wiki-research-l] Research related rules in Wikipedia language versions

Hello, At the moment I am writing about the Wikipedia rules with regard to research. some researchers are interested in Wikipedia talk pages, others want to interview Wikipedians, others again make „experiments“ within the wiki in order to watch Wikipedians‘ reactions. Researchers try to stick

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Generation of Wikipedia Summaries from Wikidata in Underserved Languages using Deep Learning

Hello, A most interesting thread, as it touches the topic from different angles. I agree that it needs actually a study among readers about their preferences. Personally, I may have some doubt whether it improves an ArticlePlaceholder to create sentences from the data (as they did in the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Generation of Wikipedia Summaries from Wikidata in Underserved Languages using Deep Learning

il! I responded inline below. > > On 6 April 2018 at 03:04, Ziko van Dijk <zvand...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > A most interesting thread, as it touches the topic from different > angles. I > > agree that it needs actually a study among readers

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Definition of the death of a wiki

Hello, Interesting mail - at the moment I am busy with thinking about chronological aspects of a wiki. One idea is that a wiki can have a finality, that means, that the founders had only a limited goal in mind. If accomplished, the wiki is no longer needed. There is a paper about open source

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Results from 2018 global Wikimedia survey are published!

edits certainly isn’t proving to be an effective strategy. > > > > Kerry > > > > *From:* Ziko van Dijk [mailto:zvand...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, 29 September 2018 3:27 PM > *To:* Research into Wikimedia content and communities < > wiki-research-l@lists.wikime

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia research on "productivity"

Hello, That is very interesting. I don't know what she or he is referring to... How would the equation exactly look like? As there are rules about content, and as the final goal is to provide recipients with content they appreciate, I think that the equation would lack important factors. From

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Results from 2018 global Wikimedia survey are published!

Hello Kerry, While I agree to most what you said, I think that the bigger picture should include that: newbies are not always good contributors, and not always good-faith contributors. And even if they have good faith, that does not mean that they can be trained to become good contributors.

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Anonymous editing

Hello Kevin Crowston, THank you for the link. I have read your paper about the initial phase and profited very much from it. My personal opinion on UP editing, not backed by research: IP editing has negative social consequences for the community. This negative side is not quite visible when only

[Wiki-research-l] Readers of Wikipedia

Hello, I just watched the showcase of December 2018, thank you for the interesting contribution! It would be great it further research could have a look at questions such as language choice. With regard to have more insight in what readers want, I struggled in the past with two questions:

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Readers of Wikipedia

Hello, Thanks for the link and the comments, Leila! Am Fr., 14. Dez. 2018 um 00:44 Uhr schrieb Kerry Raymond < kerry.raym...@gmail.com>: > hostage to the interests of their contributors (unless they actively > remove the material). That is, you get the topics that the contributors are > willing

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Data on arbitration, mediation, voting

and with wikis in general. If you are interested in an exchange about these topics, you may contact me for talking about. Kind regards Ziko van Dijk user: Ziko Am Fr., 7. Dez. 2018 um 05:53 Uhr schrieb Ofer Arazy : > Thanks, Lodewijk > > I'm interested in the English Wikipedia. > I'm

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia digital common and states

Hello, most interesting, so you have in mind contacts with the national state itself in the form of the government? Otherwise, there are a lot of contacts with government based institutions, such as national archives. Most of these contacts, I guess, relate to the national chapters and not to the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] User type context sensitivity to introduction sections.

Allow me to propose something different: Wikipedia needs better writing, not technical solutions. And for different target groups, we need different encyclopedias: * for children * for people with disabilities, such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leichte_Sprache * for scholars, e.g. "Wikipedia

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Leaving the Wikimedia Foundation, staying on the wikis

Hello Dario, The very best for the future, I am going to miss your voice at the research meetings. Great news that Leila takes over. Kind regards Ziko Am Mi., 13. Feb. 2019 um 22:56 Uhr schrieb Dario Taraborelli < dtarabore...@wikimedia.org>: > Hey all, > > I've got some personal news to

Re: [Wiki-research-l] User type context sensitivity to introduction sections.

e the article > and for new articles notify the article creator. Of course, we'd need > supporting materials to aid editors learn plain english and so forth, > but we have to start somewhere. > > cheers > stuart > > -- > ...let us be heard from red core to black sky &g

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Farewell, Erik!

Hello, In the Netherlands we were always proud to have the famous man of the data among us. We are looking forward to all future miracle work, in whatever position, Erik! Kind regards Ziko https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2008-11-01_wcn_20.JPG Am Mi., 6. Feb. 2019 um 22:18 Uhr schrieb

Re: [Wiki-research-l] distinguishing native contributors from helpful strangers

Hello Amir, Interesting, I called this phenomenon "foreigh helpers" nearly 10 years ago: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Ziko/Handbuch-Allgemeines These people do not speak the language of the language version - otherwise they would be simply a 'normal' part of the community. But they help

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Generalizability of research across different language versions

be great. My paper ten years ago was more a survey on the topic by itself: Ziko van Dijk: Wikipedia and lesser-resourced languages. In: *Language Problems and Language Planning* 33 (2009, Nr. 3, Herbst), S. 234-255. Actually in the book I am working on right now, such a systematic comparison would

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research and Wikipedia/Wikimedia event in London, 08. February

Dear fellows, Thanks for the invitation, its sounds really great. I am busy now with an overview how different disciplines approach wikis. An interchange about transdisciplinary wiki research would be wonderful. Alas, I cannot come to London that day. I hope you all will have a productive and

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Statistics on reverted edits

Hello Sue-Laine, Interesting, I am very much looking forward to your results/paper. Allow me a note on „reverts“. I am not sure which is the exact metholody you want to use, and what is your approach / field in general. It comes to my mind that a good definition of revert is needed. Technically,

[Wiki-research-l] How many papers / books about wikis?

Hello, to everyone to whom it concerns, my best wishes for the year 2020! I am interested in the number of scientific papers or monographies, articles etc. about wikis. Do you know about a paper that has come up with a relatively recent number? In my understanding, there are several problems that

Re: [Wiki-research-l] How many papers / books about wikis?

quantify things we know in > ways we don't see as deeply flawed. > > cheers > stuart > -- > ...let us be heard from red core to black sky > > > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 02:36, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > > > > Hello, > > to everyone to whom it concerns, my

[Wiki-research-l] Bibliography of wiki related works

Dear colleagues, Here a remark/question(s) about the way how we keep record in the Wikimedia movement with regard to research papers and books about wiki related topics. It seems to me that we have several pages for collaborative collecting the titles. For example, my first look would lead me to

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editor surveys on race/ethnicity/religion

Hello Su-Laine, Interesting question! One reason might be: researchers don't think that these questions are important for their particular interest. Or: if your sample is small then these items could help to identify the person. Also, it depends on the general culture or demographics of your

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Interesting Wikipedia studies

Hello, I love the study about Wikipedia articles in different language versions, and the consequences for tourism in Spain accordlingly. The researchers improved articles about Spanish locations, and then the tourism there went up. Kind regards Ziko Hinnosaar, Marit/Toomas Hinnosaar/Michael

Re: [Wiki-research-l] How to quantifying "effort" or "time spent" put into articles?

Hello Nate, Thank you for your interesting question, and thank you for your paper with Shaw and Mako Hill 2018 on the rise and decline of populations. Your endeavour seems to be most difficult and hardly possible. My thinking would be the following: there are certain patterns behind an edit, or:

[Wiki-research-l] German book on "understanding wikis and Wikipedia"

Hello, Recently, I published my new book on wikis and Wikipedia, at Transcript Verlag. It is an introduction for wiki researchers, founders and supporters, and offers a systematic approach to wikis with a wiki model and first steps to a general theory of wikis. For your information, I have below a

[Wiki-research-l] Re: What's your favorite text about general research frameworks?

Hello Andrew, I am not quite sure if this is what you are looking for. A general framework for Wikipedia research... I wonder how general that can be. Some authors have tried to make use of systems theory, but this is not what I would recommend. It all depends what your research is about, so the