Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editor surveys on race/ethnicity/religion

2020-09-21 Thread Su-Laine Brodsky
Thanks everyone who’s responded with such thoughtful comments. I will look further at the "The Pipeline of Online Participation Inequalities: The Case of Wikipedia Editing” paper that Isaac referenced, which seems interesting. I think the plans that Rebecca Maung described for the 2021

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editor surveys on race/ethnicity/religion

2020-09-21 Thread L.Gelauff
Ah, you're assuming some automated country-detection, rather than self-identify. I see. Lodewijk On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 12:59 PM Stuart A. Yeates wrote: > Everyone from China and Saudi Arabia (two countries which > systematically block wikipedia) are likely to be taking technical > measures

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editor surveys on race/ethnicity/religion

2020-09-21 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
Everyone from China and Saudi Arabia (two countries which systematically block wikipedia) are likely to be taking technical measures to disguise their country. That's a lot of people, but I'm not sure how many editors that is. cheers stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky On

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editor surveys on race/ethnicity/religion

2020-09-21 Thread L.Gelauff
Just thinking out loud.. are we looking for actual race/ethnicity/etc data, or is it rather that we're looking for whether someone belongs to an under represented group in their specific situation? If it is the latter, there may be ways to phrase the question without asking for actual

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editor surveys on race/ethnicity/religion

2020-09-21 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
Another point not touched on by other commenters is that even if ideal race / ethnicity question(s were developed for every country in the world, users from some countries commonly disguise their country due to censorship in that country, so we there would be a whole class of systematic errors

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editor surveys on race/ethnicity/religion

2020-09-21 Thread Isaac Johnson
Adding another point from Rebecca Maung who helps run the annual Community Insights surveys but isn't currently on this listserv so couldn't respond directly: This year's Community Insights survey (reporting scheduled for early 2021) is the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editor surveys on race/ethnicity/religion

2020-09-21 Thread Isaac Johnson
As pointed out by others, the highly contextualized nature of religion, race, and ethnicity between countries makes it very difficult to impossible to craft questions that are not overly reductive but still somewhat universal. Despite this challenge, understanding diversity in a way that captures

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editor surveys on race/ethnicity/religion

2020-09-21 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
The ethnicity / race question is an incredibly hard question to compose in an internationalised way. Pretty much every country in the world uses different terms and there are some very confusing cases where the same term is used in different countries to mean very different things (e,g, "Asian"

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editor surveys on race/ethnicity/religion

2020-09-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Su-Laine Brodsky, 21/09/20 08:19: > I’m wondering if any large-scale surveys have been done that ask Wikipedia > editors about their race, ethnicity, or religion? What international standards exist to phrase such questions? Denominations commonly used in surveys in one country may be considered

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editor surveys on race/ethnicity/religion

2020-09-21 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello Su-Laine, Interesting question! One reason might be: researchers don't think that these questions are important for their particular interest. Or: if your sample is small then these items could help to identify the person. Also, it depends on the general culture or demographics of your