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Thank you Matt, Steven, and everyone else for your work on this. :-)
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--- Comment #37 from Gerrit Notification Bot ---
Change 97675 merged by jenkins-bot:
Create "Draft" namespace on the English Wikipedia
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--- Comment #36 from Matthew Flaschen ---
The VE stuff has now been included into the main change
(https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/97675/).
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--- Comment #35 from Matthew Flaschen ---
VisualEditor will be enabled in the namespace for opt-in users. See
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Draft_namespace and
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/102311/ .
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--- Comment #34 from Matthew Flaschen ---
(In reply to comment #33)
> FYI: we're testing the new namespace on Labs
> (http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org). Please help give it a try.
Thank you for testing.
Please hold off on creating additio
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--- Comment #33 from Steven Walling ---
(In reply to comment #29)
> Change 99600 merged by jenkins-bot:
> Test under-review English Wikipedia draft namespace on Labs
>
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/99600
FYI: we're testing the new namespac
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--- Comment #32 from Bawolff (Brian Wolff) ---
I used to have very strong opinions on easy with shell bugs, but that was back
in the svn days where you actually needed to be shell to do anything useful on
these bugs. Now anyone can submit chang
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--- Comment #31 from MZMcBride ---
(In reply to comment #30)
> We don't use easy keyword for shell bugs, as they're advertised not as "easy
> bug to write" but as "easy bugs for new contributors to discover the code".
> Shell bugs ask a knowled
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--- Comment #30 from Dereckson ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> (In reply to comment #6)
> > We're talking about a two-line configuration change here.
>
> Probably a few more than two lines to create the namespace, the talk
> namespace,
> and se
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Change 99600 merged by jenkins-bot:
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--- Comment #28 from Gerrit Notification Bot ---
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--- Comment #27 from Equazcion ---
> (In reply to comment #25)
> > I have a hard time understanding what is going on here? If this was any
> > other
> > wiki, we would note that their is community consensus, and implement the
> > change.
> >
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--- Comment #26 from Steven Walling ---
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> I have a hard time understanding what is going on here? If this was any other
> wiki, we would note that their is community consensus, and implement the
> change.
>
> The only
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--- Comment #24 from Matthew Flaschen ---
Key minimum requirements for launch are being hashed out at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Draft_namespace . Some are pretty definite
already (e.g. NOINDEX), while others are not 100% certain yet. We
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--- Comment #23 from Nemo ---
(In reply to comment #22)
> Ori's point was partly that acting in a hasty manner and populating the
> namespace with content right, so that it's less flexible to essential changes
> in the near future, *will* make
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--- Comment #22 from Steven Walling ---
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> (In reply to comment #19)
>
> I agree with most of what you wrote, though a lot of it is relevant to bug
> 57315 rather than this bug.
>
> > Steven Walling is well-positioned
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--- Comment #21 from MZMcBride ---
(In reply to comment #19)
I agree with most of what you wrote, though a lot of it is relevant to bug
57315 rather than this bug.
> Steven Walling is well-positioned to enlist some developer time within the
>
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--- Comment #20 from Matthew Flaschen ---
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> I might even support it, once it's clear what the proposed changes are (all
> I've seen spelled out so far are a new landing page and some sort of special
> permission change
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--- Comment #18 from Nemo ---
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> I am fine with whichever proposal
> gets
> this done, as long as it does through whatever procedure it is normally
> expected to.
Don't worry: the procedure is [[m:Requesting wiki confi
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--- Comment #16 from Equazcion ---
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> I fully share this view. I've been toying with the idea of an extension here
> for some time. There is this new namespace, there is the new userright that
> the community agreed u
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> As I stated at the other bug, these are not questions that need to block
> creation of the namespace. It rather seems apparent that you saw this
> proposal
> as something other th
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Change 97675 had a related patch set uploaded by MZMcBride:
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--- Comment #10 from Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) ---
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> (In reply to comment #2)
> * who is allowed to create drafts. (e.g. Are anonymous users allowed to do
> so?
> I assume so but the proposal summary and closure don't spec
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--- Comment #7 from Steven Walling ---
> None of this is relevant to adding a new namespace and you know this.
>
> If you want to improve the articles for creation process, great! I've filed
> several bugs in this area. :-) No objections from
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--- Comment #6 from MZMcBride ---
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> This is not about consensus. We don't know basic things about how the
> namespace would work.
I'm pretty sure we know how namespaces work. :-)
> We still need to specify things like
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--- Comment #5 from Steven Walling ---
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> As I stated at the other bug, these are not questions that need to block
> creation of the namespace.
Deciding the basics of who can do what in a new namespace, and how, are th
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--- Comment #4 from Equazcion ---
As I stated at the other bug, these are not questions that need to block
creation of the namespace. It rather seems apparent that you saw this proposal
as something other than it was -- a more substantial chang
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--- Comment #3 from Steven Walling ---
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> (In reply to comment #1)
> > Like I said on bug 57315, there are still too many unanswered questions
> > about
> > this namespace to roll it out in a hasty way.
>
> Does anyone
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--- Comment #2 from MZMcBride ---
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> Like I said on bug 57315, there are still too many unanswered questions about
> this namespace to roll it out in a hasty way.
Does anyone else share your view?
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