Re: [Wikidata] [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-07-04 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Hi, Le 19/05/2018 à 03:35, Denny Vrandečić a écrit : Regarding attribution, commonly it is assumed that you have to respect it transitively. That is one of the reasons a license that requires BY sucks so hard for data: unlike with text, the attribution requirements grow very quickly. It is

Re: [Wikidata] [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-07-04 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Hi, Le 18/05/2018 à 19:45, Info WorldUniversity a écrit : At a Wikimedia conference in early 2017, with Lydia and Dario present, I think I learned that all books / WikiCitations in all 301 of Wikipedia languages could be licensed, or heading to be licensed, with CC-0 licensing -

[Wikidata] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-08 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Hello everybody, There is a phabricator ticket on Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata that you might be interested to look at and participate in. As Denny suggested in the ticket to give it more visibility through the discussion on the Wikidata

Re: [Wikidata] [wikidata] Digression sur l'usage des listes (était : Re: Réutilisation de données ouvertes sur Wikidata ?)

2018-03-02 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Le 02/03/2018 à 15:00, Envel Le Hir a écrit : Bonjour Mathieu, Serait-il possible que : 1. tu arrêtes de mettre en copie des personnes en-dehors de la liste de discussions ? C'est leur choix de ne pas être abonnées ; tu peux de façon privée les inviter à rejoindre la liste ou leur transférer

Re: [Wikidata] Weekly Summary #301

2018-02-28 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Le 26/02/2018 à 16:47, Léa Lacroix a écrit : /Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week./ Events /Press/Blogs

Re: [Wikidata] Weekly Summary #301

2018-02-28 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Le 26/02/2018 à 16:47, Léa Lacroix a écrit : /Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week./ Events /Press/Blogs

[Wikidata] Fwd: Re: Imperative programming in Lua, do we really want it?

2017-12-06 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Following your message Jeroen, there it also is on Wikitech-l now. Message transféré Sujet : Re: [Wikidata] Imperative programming in Lua, do we really want it? Date : Wed, 6 Dec 2017 23:53:17 +0100 De :Jeroen De Dauw Répondre à : Discussion

Re: [Wikidata] [wikicite-discuss] Cleaning up bibliographic collections in Wikidata

2017-12-04 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
n find out that now it is a member of itself and then revert your own edit. :) I do recall myself almost getting trapped in editing Q16222597. Isn't it an instance of itself? /Finn On 12/02/2017 08:09 PM, mathieu stumpf guntz wrote: Hi all, You should in any case be sure to avoid allowing c

Re: [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-12-03 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Dear Leila Le 02/12/2017 à 21:48, Leila Zia a écrit : [I apologize for the longish response, and I will do what I can to take the rest of this offlist as needed. I just see a couple of places where I need to add more explanation.] Then I feel somewhat bond to respond too. But too make it

Re: [Wikidata] [wikicite-discuss] Cleaning up bibliographic collections in Wikidata

2017-12-02 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Hi all, You should in any case be sure to avoid allowing collections which fall in Russell's paradox . So if a predicate "belongs to collection QX" is added such that an Wikidata item can be stated as being part of an other, it must be

Re: [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-12-01 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Hi Leila, First, thank you for your clear analyze and suggestions. I won't respond extensively on list about this thread anymore for now. So to your reply, I will just make a single point more clear, and take the rest in consideration off list. Le 01/12/2017 à 22:49, Leila Zia a écrit :

Re: [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-12-01 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Le 01/12/2017 à 14:06, Federico Leva (Nemo) a écrit : mathieu stumpf guntz, 01/12/2017 03:00: Actually, as far as I know, CC-by-sa-3.0-undeed states nothing about /suis generis/ rights I don't know what's -undeed, but 3.0-it and 4.0 do, which is for instance why ISTAT data can be imported

Re: [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-12-01 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
atter here. The question is whether you are willing to comply with the exigence of transparency that the Wikimedia movement is attached to, on a topic which directly impact its governance and future on a large scale. Kind regards, mathieu Kind regards, Markus On 01.12.2017 03:43, mathieu stumpf

Re: [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-12-01 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Le 01/12/2017 à 05:51, John Erling Blad a écrit : My reference was to in-place discussions at WMDE, not the open meetings with Markus. Each week we had an open demo where Markus usually attended. As I remember the May-discussion, it was just a discussion in the office, there was a reference to

Re: [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Hello Markus, First rest assured that any feedback provided will be integrated in the research project on the topic with proper references, including this email. It might not come before beginning of next week however, as I'm already more than fully booked until then. But once again it's on a

Re: [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Hi James, Le 30/11/2017 à 23:54, James Heald a écrit : Mathieu, You don't seem to grasp the essential legal point, though several people in this thread have already tried to tell you. Copyright protects expression and creative originality.  It does not protect merely a collation of facts.

Re: [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
I hope my answer made this conflicts more obvious, as well as showing how "more reusable right now" might rhyme with "less equity and accessibility of knowledge in the long term". -- Yair Rand 2017-11-29 16:45 GMT-05:00 Mathieu Stumpf Guntz <psychosl...@culture-libre.org &l

Re: [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Le 30/11/2017 à 10:13, Egon Willighagen a écrit : Dear Mathieu, On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:45 PM, Mathieu Stumpf Guntz <psychosl...@culture-libre.org <mailto:psychosl...@culture-libre.org>> wrote: I forward here the message I initially posted on the Meta Tremendous Wik

Re: [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Le 30/11/2017 à 11:45, Luca Martinelli a écrit : Il 30 nov 2017 09:55, "John Erling Blad" > ha scritto: Please keep this civil and on topic! I was just pointing out that CC0 wasn't forced down our throat by Silicon Valley's Fifth Column

Re: [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Wikidata. I welcome any reference to this discussions. And possibly next time provide a TL;DR version of your email at the top. Ok, thank you for this suggestion, I'll do that. Cheers, L. Il 29 nov 2017 22:46, "Mathieu Stumpf Guntz" <psychosl...@culture-libre.org <mailto:psy

Re: [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
to everybody. As it is, anyone can use the data of Wikidata and that is why I contribute. Thanks,        GerardM Cheers On 29 November 2017 at 22:45, Mathieu Stumpf Guntz <psychosl...@culture-libre.org <mailto:psychosl...@culture-libre.org>> wrote: Saluton ĉiuj, I for

Re: [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
e some reasons for other resources to switch to CC0: https://www.wikipathways.org/index.php/WikiPathways:CC0_Announcement <https://www.wikipathways.org/index.php/WikiPathways:CC0_Announcement> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:45 PM, Mathieu Stumpf Guntz <psychosl...

Re: [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Saluton Nicolas, Le 30/11/2017 à 00:23, Nicolas VIGNERON a écrit : Mathieu, I know you and like you personally, that why I can say that this mail is clearly not your best argument. Despite saying multiple times this is not a manifesto nor against Wikidata, your mail seems clearly fuelled

[Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-29 Thread Mathieu Stumpf Guntz
Saluton ĉiuj, I forward here the message I initially posted on the Meta Tremendous Wiktionary User Group talk page , because I'm interested to have a wider

Re: [Wikidata] [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-11-01 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Hey everyone, I seize the opportunity of this planed import to make you aware that I started a project research on Wikiversity about Wikidata and its license :