Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata query feature: status and plans

2014-06-10 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 07/06/14 00:40, Joe Filceolaire wrote: Well they can ask. As there is no real definition of what is a city and what the limits of each city are I'm not sure they will get a useful answer. The population of the City of London (Q23311), for instance, is only 7,375! Should we change it from

[Wikidata-l] Wikidata Toolkit 0.2.0 released

2014-06-10 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Dear all, I am happy to announce the second release of Wikidata Toolkit [1], the Java library for programming with Wikidata and Wikibase. This release fixes bugs and improves features of the first release (download, parse, process Wikidata exports) and it adds new components for serializing

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata query feature: status and plans

2014-06-10 Thread Luca Martinelli
We may possibly use an ad hoc item City of United Kingdom, subclass of city and UK administrative division, may we? L. Il 10/giu/2014 10:21 Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org ha scritto: On 07/06/14 00:40, Joe Filceolaire wrote: Well they can ask. As there is no real

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata query feature: status and plans

2014-06-10 Thread Jan Dudík
Similar case: For czech towns we have https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15978299 JAnD 2014-06-10 11:11 GMT+02:00 Luca Martinelli martinellil...@gmail.com: We may possibly use an ad hoc item City of United Kingdom, subclass of city and UK administrative division, may we?

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata query feature: status and plans

2014-06-10 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 10/06/14 11:11, Luca Martinelli wrote: We may possibly use an ad hoc item City of United Kingdom, subclass of city and UK administrative division, may we? Sure, that's possible. Maybe this is even necessary. I had suggested to link to city status in the UK -- but there is no item town

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata query feature: status and plans

2014-06-10 Thread Andrew Gray
On 10 June 2014 09:20, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: The class city is used for relatively large and permanent human settlement[s] [1], which does not say much (because the vagueness of relatively). Maybe we should even wonder if city is a good class to use in Wikidata.

[Wikidata-l] Wikidata:List of properties/Summary table

2014-06-10 Thread Derric Atzrott
Hello, I've noticed that there are a lot of script errors towards the bottom of Wikidata:List of properties/Summary table I suspect that this is caused by the same thing mentioned in this email: https://www.mail-archive.com/wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org/msg02756.html Is there anything

[Wikidata-l] Gadget

2014-06-10 Thread Derric Atzrott
Good morning, Does anyone know if there has been a gadget developed that adds a link to the tools section, or somewhere similar, from Wikipedia articles to their corresponding Wikidata items. Such a gadget would make it significantly easier to manually import data in Wikidata while reading

Re: [Wikidata-l] Gadget

2014-06-10 Thread Katie Filbert
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote: Good morning, Does anyone know if there has been a gadget developed that adds a link to the tools section, or somewhere similar, from Wikipedia articles to their corresponding Wikidata items. Such a

Re: [Wikidata-l] Gadget

2014-06-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 10 June 2014 15:23, Katie Filbert katie.filb...@wikimedia.de wrote: Does anyone know if there has been a gadget developed that adds a link to the tools section, or somewhere similar, from Wikipedia articles to their corresponding Wikidata items. Such a gadget would make it significantly

Re: [Wikidata-l] Gadget

2014-06-10 Thread Derric Atzrott
This is already done by Wikibase. There should be a data item link in the toolbox in the sidebar if the item is connected. I have no idea how I missed that. Well that should save me some time. I was about to go make a gadget to replicate that functionality. What would also be useful, would

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata project focused on economic data

2014-06-10 Thread Edward Summers
This is good news, and helps a lot — thanks for taking the time to respond Joe. It may be a lot of work, but it would be great if you could reference the actual property names by URL for the properties you mentioned. //Ed On Jun 9, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata query feature: status and plans

2014-06-10 Thread Joe Filceolaire
Even where there is complete agreement that a human settlement is a 'city' there is still usually a question over the population of that city. The question is down to what to include. A city in many cases is understood to include the contiguous built up area but this will often extend far beyond

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata query feature: status and plans

2014-06-10 Thread David Cuenca
I think we should drop part of and start using a better mereological system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mereology#Various_systems http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/mereology/image1.png Cheers, Micru On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote: Even where

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata project focused on economic data

2014-06-10 Thread Joe Filceolaire
Sure. Here they are: - population (P1082) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1082: number of people inhabiting the place - point in time (P585) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P585: time and date something took place, existed or a statement was true - determination

[Wikidata-l] Wikiquote Phase 2 is here

2014-06-10 Thread John Lewis
Hello everyone, Just a note that Wikiquote now has Phase 2 access. Some communities may need help with Lua and the general implementation of Phase 2 so please help as you can :) John Lewis ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata query feature: status and plans

2014-06-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I fear that when words like mereology are expected to be understood, we will fall into the trap where our communities fear what we have been sniffing. It will just alienate them. Part of is something that is understood. There may be academic reasons that make sense to the people who care

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata query feature: status and plans

2014-06-10 Thread David Cuenca
Hi Gerard, I think we should not aim for a perfect system, just for a better one. In our case we don't need to reproduce all cases, just identify the most relevant ones and to clarify when to use each and label/describe them clearly. Part of is understood, but in so many possible ways that its

Re: [Wikidata-l] Gadget

2014-06-10 Thread Legoktm
On 6/10/14, 8:15 AM, Derric Atzrott wrote: Also is the norm for this list HTML or Text email? plain text please! -- Legoktm ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

[Wikidata-l] Wikidata RDF exports

2014-06-10 Thread Markus Kroetzsch
Hi all, We are now offering regular RDF dumps for the content of Wikidata: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-exports/rdf/ RDF is the Resource Description Framework of the W3C that can be used to exchange data on the Web. The Wikidata RDF exports consist of several files that contain

Re: [Wikidata-l] Using external vocabularies (like RDA) in WikiData ?

2014-06-10 Thread Luca Martinelli
2014-05-28 21:27 GMT+02:00 Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com: Like you I am not clear what the difference is between 'expression' and 'manifestation' and which of them corresponds to an 'edition' so we may or may not already be using those concepts. According to the last FRBR 2.0 draft,[1]

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata RDF exports

2014-06-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It is stated that there are no qualifiers included. In one of the articles you write that it is to be understood that the vailidity of the information is dependent on the existing qualifiers. What is the value of these RDF exports with the qualifiers missing? Thanks, GerardM On 10

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata query feature: status and plans

2014-06-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As far as I am concerned, it is relevant to compare settlements in whatever country they are. A British city is always located in the United Kingdom and even more precise it is in the administrative unit of a county or whatever. When it is a city for historical reasons, this can be indicated