Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-19 Thread Antoine Isaac
On 4/18/15 5:48 PM, Ricordisamoa wrote: Il 11/04/2015 13:29, Antoine Isaac ha scritto: Hi, Is the 'template' word so bad? Paraphrasing Daniel's definition of the MediaWiki template, one could see a 'WikiData template' as a set of of properties that can be re-used, e.g. to make create statemen

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-18 Thread Ricordisamoa
Il 11/04/2015 13:29, Antoine Isaac ha scritto: Hi, Is the 'template' word so bad? Paraphrasing Daniel's definition of the MediaWiki template, one could see a 'WikiData template' as a set of of properties that can be re-used, e.g. to make create statements about a certain class. (the 'parameter

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-11 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Valentine Charles, 07/04/2015 15:21: What I mean is that it would be good to have list of properties that can be used for a given thing. Autocompletion often guesses well, but you can set a non-mandatory constraint: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Category:Properties_with_constraints Really, in

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-11 Thread Antoine Isaac
Hi, Is the 'template' word so bad? Paraphrasing Daniel's definition of the MediaWiki template, one could see a 'WikiData template' as a set of of properties that can be re-used, e.g. to make create statements about a certain class. (the 'parameter' bit could be understood as adding or removing

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-08 Thread Ricordisamoa
Il 04/04/2015 23:45, Stas Malyshev ha scritto: Hi! For things that actually *are* free text, and not terribly long, a monolongual (or, in the future, multilingual) text property could be used. "quote" already exists, "abstract" could be added, pending community discussion. Length limitations ca

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-07 Thread Ricordisamoa
Il 07/04/2015 15:21, Valentine Charles ha scritto: Hello, Yes I might not use the right term here especially if you use it already in a different context. What I mean is that it would be good to have list of properties that can be used for a given thing. For instance if you want to describe a

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-07 Thread Jane Darnell
Well probably not, as it is an ongoing project. You can post questions there however on the talk page that are more likely to generate useful answers for you than this list. Most Wikidatans involved there don't speak English as a first language and I don't think they are frequent readers of this ma

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-07 Thread Valentine Charles
Hello, Yes I might not use the right term here especially if you use it already in a different context. What I mean is that it would be good to have list of properties that can be used for a given thing. For instance if you want to describe a painting here the list of properties you can use. https

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-07 Thread Daniel Kinzler
I'm confused by your use of the term "template" here. In the context of MediaWiki, "template" refers to a bit of wikitext that can be parametrized and re-used, e.g. to make info-boxes. If I understand correctly, what you mean is a kind of schema saying which properties can and should be present o

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-07 Thread Jane Darnell
For paintings you can better look here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Valentine Charles wrote: > Hello, > > I wanted to get an overview of all the properties used boy the instance > Painting (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-07 Thread Valentine Charles
Hello, I wanted to get an overview of all the properties used boy the instance Painting (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3305213) for further mapping with the Europeana Data Model. My initial thought that I would find a representative list at http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Visual

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-04 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! > For things that actually *are* free text, and not terribly long, a monolongual > (or, in the future, multilingual) text property could be used. "quote" already > exists, "abstract" could be added, pending community discussion. Length > limitations can be adjusted if need be. Maybe if the ne

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-04 Thread Joe Filceolaire
I think there is a case for including this structured data disguised as text but it should go in the reference for a statement On 4 Apr 2015 18:07, "Daniel Kinzler" wrote: > For things that actually *are* free text, and not terribly long, a > monolongual > (or, in the future, multilingual) text p

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-04 Thread Ricordisamoa
Il 02/04/2015 13:51, Daniel Kinzler ha scritto: Am 02.04.2015 um 09:03 schrieb Valentine Charles: Regarding the dimensions, it is great to know that it is on your plate. I was wondering is there a place where we can see the classes/properties that are in the pipeline and participate to discussio

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
For things that actually *are* free text, and not terribly long, a monolongual (or, in the future, multilingual) text property could be used. "quote" already exists, "abstract" could be added, pending community discussion. Length limitations can be adjusted if need be. What I was warning against i

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-04 Thread Valentine Charles
Hello, Coming back on my previous email, I do indeed understand that Wikidata wants structured data as much as possible. But you might have free-text information that might not fit in a given property or even have meaning only as a free -text description (abstract, quotes..).GLAM's are for instanc

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-04 Thread Jane Darnell
The more I think about this issue, the more I think we need a separate animal altogether that sits between Wikidata and Wikipedia (or alongside it somehow) and that is a quick-ref "simple mobile version" that acts as a go-between to image data on Commons (or any other WM project). Right now Wikiped

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-02 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 02.04.2015 um 09:03 schrieb Valentine Charles: > Regarding the dimensions, it is great to know that it is on your plate. I was > wondering is there a place where we can see the classes/properties that are in > the pipeline and participate to discussions around them? Note however that for dimen

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-02 Thread Thomas Douillard
Hi, the place to discuss property proposal is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal and its subpages. We might need more people involved in this area. Classes are regular items in wikidata and as such can be freely create. They are, as regular items, subject to the notability po

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I do not follow ... A quote is exactly that ... it is not a place where things that do not fit neatly are to be dumped. What you need to consider is what the value is of mono-lingual text.. A motto as used on a shield makes sense.. a quote maybe, the original name of something surely... but b

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-02 Thread Valentine Charles
Dear all, Thank you for your answers. I do understand indeed that the purpose if Wikidata is to have structured data but coming from the GLAMs sector I was wondering how our data could look like in Wikidata. In fact it could be an interesting exercise to evaluate from the generic description how m

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-01 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi Valentine, The long, chatty, free-text descriptive element of Wikidata is really Wikipedia ;-) There is a small free-text field in Wikidata for each item (the description, one per language) but it's intended for a short identifying/disambiguating note: "1887 self-portrait by XYZ"; "Danish arti

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-01 Thread Joe Filceolaire
We do have the "Quote" property (P1683) which has monolingual text datatype. You could certainly put free text in the value for this property and add this to a reference or even use it as a qualifier. Joe On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > Am 01.04.2015 um 09:20 schrieb Val

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-01 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 01.04.2015 um 09:20 schrieb Valentine Charles: > -Cultural Heritage data have most of the time a description property where you > will find lot of relevant free text information. The structured property but > inside you will find mostly free- text. I couldn't find a similar property in > Wikidat

[Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-01 Thread Valentine Charles
Dear all, Thank you all for your answers. I will have a look to the different projects you have mentioned in your emails. In the meantime I have spent a bit more time exploring Wikidata for paintings as one of our project currently focuses on Art and comparing it with the Europeana Data Model in t

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data Templates

2015-03-28 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Hi Valentine! I think the Authority Control project would be of interest to you: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Authority_control Am 27.03.2015 um 16:18 schrieb Valentine Charles: > > Hi all, > > Europeana.eu is interested in using Wikidata. At the moment, we are trying to >

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data Templates

2015-03-28 Thread Thomas Douillard
Hi, for France I'm also aware of the historical monuments project, that might be interesting for you: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_France/Monuments_historiques 2015-03-28 0:12 GMT+01:00 Daniel Mietchen : > Hi Valentine, > > I think the following projects would also fall with

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data Templates

2015-03-27 Thread Daniel Mietchen
Hi Valentine, I think the following projects would also fall within the scope of your search: * https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Source_MetaData * https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings * https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Wikidata

[Wikidata-l] Data Templates

2015-03-27 Thread Valentine Charles
Hi all, Europeana.eu is interested in using Wikidata. At the moment, we are trying to make a correspondence between the data structures in Wikidata and our data model EDM [1] for digitized cultural collections. We started by looking at the general Wikidata project page [2] and found that the foll