Re: [Wikidata-l] Update to time and space model

2013-01-08 Thread Gregor Hagedorn
ON COORDINATES: a) what you describe is more specific than a geolocation (which may be expressed by other means than coordinates). I suggest to give the data type the more specific name: geocoordinates b) with respect to precision: I don't understand the reasoning to stick this to degrees.

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update to time and space model

2013-01-08 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 08/01/13 12:36, Denny Vrandečić wrote: Location: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Representing_values#Geolocation I'm not sure if we should be going that far, but there may be cases where longitude and latitude are known with different degree of accuracy, so multiple

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update to time and space model

2013-01-08 Thread Katie Filbert
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote: On 08/01/13 12:36, Denny Vrandečić wrote: Location: https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikidata/Development/**

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update to time and space model

2013-01-08 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 08.01.2013 14:02, Katie Filbert wrote: I think it's worth taking a look at what MaxSem has done with the GeoData extension, which is used for mobile apps, etc.: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GeoData In this context we should keep in mind that MaxSem and Tomasz are considering

Re: [Wikidata-l] Social service directory project

2013-01-08 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Greg Bloom greg.bl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks - As an introduction: I'm working with local non-profits that service low-income people in the District of Columbia, and one of the common problems (which we seem to share with communities everywhere) is the lack

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update to time and space model

2013-01-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2013/1/8 Gregor Hagedorn g.m.haged...@gmail.com ON COORDINATES: a) what you describe is more specific than a geolocation (which may be expressed by other means than coordinates). I suggest to give the data type the more specific name: geocoordinates Yep, agreed. Or just coordinates.

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update to time and space model

2013-01-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thanks to the pointer, Katie. I meant to look into Max' work for a while, but failed. Now I did and asked him many questions :) So the biggest difference is that Max uses dim to represent what we mean here with precision. And dim is somehow related to precision in a globe dependent way (which is

Re: [Wikidata-l] Social service directory project

2013-01-08 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, Depending on the specifics of your project maybe Semantic MediaWiki is a better fit though. I recommend you have a look at it as well. Agree. Definitely sounds like SMW (https://semantic-mediawiki.org) is what you are looking for. Later it might or might not make sense for you to switch to

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update to time and space model

2013-01-08 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, Why use Q2 (earth) as the glob, and not Q215848 (WSG84)? That would be a lot clearer, I think. Since WGS84 implies Earth, this works for Earth. Is such an implication always present though? What if I want to describe a location on some random planet - I suspect you'd have to specify some

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update to time and space model

2013-01-08 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, For every globe we would always need a geodesic system. My concern is not having the geodesic system field. This is fine. My concern is not having a globe field. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. -- ___

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update to time and space model

2013-01-08 Thread Gregor Hagedorn
geocoordinates Yep, agreed. Or just coordinates. yes, probably better without a geo if it shall work for moon or mars as well. However, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinate_system is far broader term. But I cannot find a correct superclass term for Geographic/Selenographic/Martiographic(?)

Re: [Wikidata-l] Order of language links

2013-01-08 Thread Bináris
Could this order be automatically determined for each Wikipedia? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_sorting_order ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Order of language links

2013-01-08 Thread LD 100
I would preferred if this could also be changed by each users individually in the settings (maybe the settings could be set globally) On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote: Could this order be automatically determined for each Wikipedia?

Re: [Wikidata-l] Order of language links

2013-01-08 Thread Meng Lu
It's an interesting point. I personally would prefer seeing the Wikipedia instance's own language and English stay at the top, followed by the rest in alphabetical order.A longer stretch might be providing alternative ordering methods for languages such as alphabetical order, descending sizes

Re: [Wikidata-l] Order of language links

2013-01-08 Thread Platonides
On 08/01/13 22:31, LD 100 wrote: I would preferred if this could also be changed by each users individually in the settings (maybe the settings could be set globally) Although preferences are evil, I see the point for customizing this. Having ar: in the top if I have no idea of that language