[Wikimania-l] Re: Excursion to Auschwitz?

2024-05-21 Thread Gnangarra
gt;>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Harry >>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>> Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe

[Wikimania-l] Re: Excursion to Auschwitz?

2023-12-14 Thread Gnangarra
worthwhile. > > Best, > Harry > ___ > Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org -- Boodarwun Gnangarra 'ngany dabakarn koorliny arn boodjera dardon nlangan Nyungar koortabodjar' ___

[Wikimania-l] Re: Selection criteria *(WAS: Planning your trip to Singapore for Wikimania 2023)

2023-06-27 Thread Gnangarra
any topic. Cheers Gnangarra On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 at 22:35, Željko Blaće wrote: > On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 3:54 PM effe iets anders > wrote: > >> Generally a review of criteria seems like a fair idea - but I would >> recommend doing that after the conference (ideally after

[Wikimania-l] Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimania 2024 will be hosted in …

2023-03-21 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimania-l] Re: Wikimania 2024 will be hosted in …

2023-03-20 Thread Gnangarra
rs in the movement might find >> other arguments more important, and it's always good to know that. >> >> cheers, >> ___ >> Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to

[Wikimania-l] Re: Wikimania 2023 : Call for Program Submission, language translation of Wiki pages

2023-03-05 Thread Gnangarra
effort to help make Wikimania accessible to everyone. Regards Gnangarra Wikimania 2023 COT On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 at 06:05, Ruben Hilari-Jilalu wrote: > doing into Aymara > > El sáb, 4 mar 2023 a las 4:10, Jagseer S Sidhu () > escribió: > >> Hi >> I have translated >>

[Wikimania-l] Re: Dates announced: Wikimania 2023

2022-11-28 Thread Gnangarra
>> >>>> >>>> Panel discussion >>>> >>>> >>>> Trainings >>>> >>>> >>>> Remote presentation >>>> >>>> >>>> Tech presentations >>>> >>>> >&g

[Wikimania-l] Re: Core Organizing Team (COT) Wikimania 2022

2022-02-25 Thread Gnangarra
Woolah! Welcome to the 2022 COT, a great group of Wikimedians. I'm excited and looking forward to Wikimania 2022. Boodarwun On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 at 06:48, Samuel Klein wrote: > Huzzah! Thanks for the update. Looking forward to the new new mania. > Learning to throw a wide range of beautiful

[Wikimania-l] Re: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 176, Issue 1

2021-12-15 Thread Gnangarra
> > ___ >> > Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> > >> > >> > -- >

[Wikimania-l] Re: Local Wikimania events

2021-07-06 Thread Gnangarra
person Wikimania events. > Should I start one? > > On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 11:33, Gnangarra wrote: > >> Hi Deryck >> >> I'd recommend that you advertise your meetup in the >> https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2021:Community_Village on the >> wikimania pa

Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2021 Updates: Save the date and Core Organizing Team

2021-04-10 Thread Gnangarra
Hi Deryck We have put that down as one of the items the team needs to consider if its practical including what goodies we could provide. Personally I'd like to get a Wikimania t-shirt at least... Regards Gnangarra On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 at 20:58, Deryck Chan wrote: > Thank you COT. >

[Wikimania-l] Scholarship for 2020 Wikimania now open

2020-02-19 Thread Gnangarra
look forward to seeing you in Bangkok in August. -- Gnangarra Wikimania Scholarship committee Co-chair *Power of Diverse Collaboration* *Sharing knowledge brings people together* Wikimania Bangkok 2020 August 5 to 9 hosted by ESEAP Wikimania: https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gnangarra

Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania Scholarship Applications opens 17 February

2020-02-09 Thread Gnangarra
offer Regards Gnangarra On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 02:42, Naureen wrote: > Hi Roman, > > I’ve begun a job now and been pondering giving money specifically for > supporting scholarships to Wikimania. Is that an option? I’d like to help > support for example increasing people coming from My

Re: [Wikimania-l] New Sister Projects lunchtime meetup today

2019-08-16 Thread Gnangarra
Would love to be part of the discussion but I like to see a oral or intangible knowledge project to collect both cultural histories and personal experiences to add to the stories being told on Wikipedia On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 at 15:14, Pharos wrote: > The New Sister Projects Meetup is a

Re: [Wikimania-l] In Memoriam at Wikimania

2019-08-10 Thread Gnangarra
Unfortunately its a list that will never stop growing, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Morethangrass passed today(10th August) in Perth, Western Australia. On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 23:52, Mardetanha wrote: > I was just notified one member of arwiki has passed away >

Re: [Wikimania-l] Suggestion on details in scholarship emails

2019-04-17 Thread Gnangarra
gt; Gabe > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 12:47 PM Federico Leva (Nemo) > wrote: > >> Gnangarra, 17/04/19 13:23: >> > What we'll end up with Wikimanias in 3rd world countries because ts >> cheaper >> >> Is it? The budgets I've

Re: [Wikimania-l] Suggestion on details in scholarship emails

2019-04-17 Thread Gnangarra
it's an ok idea but dollars spent doesnt equate to the value gained, and will vary between locations. What we'll end up with Wikimanias in 3rd world countries because ts cheaper not because of potential impact. That is something we already see. How do you measure impact when its about sharing of

Re: [Wikimania-l] New Wikimania program design announced: call for proposals OPEN

2019-03-01 Thread Gnangarra
It does sound like an interesting approach I look forward to it being a successful format, will there time at the end of the day for panel sessions to further explore the days discussions. Like Mina I too have been working with disadvantaged and oppressed communities to bring their knowledge,

Re: [Wikimania-l] Friendly Space Policy (was: Sad news)

2018-08-06 Thread Gnangarra
one should be embarrassed at >> being part of a benevolent movement such as Wikipedia - have they >> something disastrous to hide? In which case, perhaps they better not >> go to Wikimania at all, and if they are scholarship recipients, give >> their place over to someone e

Re: [Wikimania-l] Friendly Space Policy (was: Sad news)

2018-08-05 Thread Gnangarra
I was disappointed at the last Wikimania(london 2014) I went to with the number of people wearing dont take my photo stickers taking up positions at the front of the room or near speakers that made it hard to get images of the room and record the event. On 6 August 2018 at 11:11, cs wrote: >

Re: [Wikimania-l] Friendly Space Policy (was: Sad news)

2018-07-29 Thread Gnangarra
One reliable way to silence people when they experience harassment as well > as keeping others from speaking out, is to have them experience how other, > non-involved people, would immediately have an opinion on what happened and > judge the case or the person in question. This is what has

Re: [Wikimania-l] Friendly Space Policy (was: Sad news)

2018-07-28 Thread Gnangarra
I think the problem is that many Wikimedians are very good at interpreting policies in to definite rules to suit their point of view, and we struggle to recognise that the spirit of a policy is more important. When that happens we write more complexity in to policies rather than keeping it simple

Re: [Wikimania-l] Sad news

2018-07-20 Thread Gnangarra
It doesnt sound like it was good application of process, I think that this could have been solved simply when the issue was raise with as Romaine has already done explained and apologised his support should have continued. It looks bad as someone who isnt there and knows Romaine that issue is be

Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 146, Issue 1

2018-06-01 Thread Gnangarra
there is a reporting component, but in some cases the benefit is not what a person brings back, its the local experiences they share while there that really matters. Overall the exchanging of knowledge and the building of relationships is the key value of Wikimanias yet when it comes to

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

2018-05-30 Thread Gnangarra
Viswaprabha highlights a reason why some people may be appearing to get Montreal and CapeTown. Where as Kudpung is highlighting that over time some people seam to get many scholarship opportunities to attend, while others miss out or perpetually end up on the wait list. I dont think Kudpung is

Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2019

2018-02-07 Thread Gnangarra
Congratulations from Perth Bid team, & Wikimedia Australia to Wikimedia Sverige and the people who put the effort in to make it possible. On 7 February 2018 at 19:21, balaji wrote: > Congrats to the volunteers of Wikimedia Sverige who have put lot of hard > work to

Re: [Wikimania-l] Personal stories about Wikimedia / free portrait photos

2017-08-03 Thread Gnangarra
I think the videos are a great idea I did one back in 2012 in Washington, I think that its important for our stories to be captured by the WMF so that people can understand some of the people behind making Wikipedia. Our history and our people are as important as those that we are sharing Please

Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa rejections

2017-07-27 Thread Gnangarra
you branch off the discussion, into something like > 'visa in my country are super easy'. > (and this is equally valid for all other people from other countries that > like to share about their visa policies) > > Best, > Lodewijk > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 2:09 AM, Gnangarra <

Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa rejections

2017-07-26 Thread Gnangarra
Unfair to say Australia is the least friendly country as the Australian Customs and Border protection has a whole dedicated process for conferences https://www.border.gov.au/Busi/Trav/Conf that enable processing of visa regardless of country by the organisors. That over 100 countries can apply

Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa rejections

2017-06-23 Thread Gnangarra
I would think that once a location is chosen the first step would be for the WMF to immediately open up discussions with the relevant Authority to ensure that scholarships recipients have sufficient paperwork and time to get approval as well as any assurances or processing options can be put in

Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa rejections

2017-06-22 Thread Gnangarra
These issues are a symptom of the closed processes that have occurred firstly with Montreal and next year with middle eastern attendees to Cape Town . Acknowledging that the change was because of the amount effort put in by unsuccessful bidders was said to be wasted its showing that some things

Re: [Wikimania-l] Successful scholarship applications

2017-05-24 Thread Gnangarra
Yongmin That is a good idea as it help prompt people in writing their report and we could see a person expectation about attending compared to the initial impact of attending. In my opinion the reporting post Wikimania is to close to truly reflect its impact of attending, it needs to be done 6

Re: [Wikimania-l] Successful scholarship applications

2017-05-24 Thread Gnangarra
Thank you for sharing, its never easy to open up about what you put in the application. It will do a lot to help others learn from your experiences. Enjoy your time in Montreal On 24 May 2017 at 17:59, Deryck Chan wrote: > It's good that we're discussing the hurdle for

Re: [Wikimania-l] Granting Scholarship to same persons every year

2017-05-22 Thread Gnangarra
​English isnt everyone first language if there had there been no name mentioned the question would have been dismissed as nonsense. Tto quote the original email "*This is not personal, I am just using personalities and scholarships familiar to me" *this made it clear that it was not directed at

Re: [Wikimania-l] Granting Scholarship to same persons every year

2017-05-21 Thread Gnangarra
​Global North/Global South is an unrealistic fallacy ​creates a poor subdivision of resources it'd be better to see support for emerging and isolated communities, given that including 2017 this will be the 4th consecutive Wikimania in North America or Europe Yes the question could have been

Re: [Wikimania-l] Granting Scholarship to same persons every year

2017-05-19 Thread Gnangarra
If there is a general opinion based on facts that the some individuals are the recipients of a regular scholarship, then that is something that needs to be discussed. Unfortunately to prove the hypothesis that this is happening there does need to be some presentation of what the basis for that

Re: [Wikimania-l] WMF Scholarships to attend Wikimania

2017-04-18 Thread Gnangarra
nada.com> > wrote: > > Wikimedia contributions are public numbers. If username is known, all > contributions can be found out. What is secrecy in that? Only thing not > disclosed is how the evaluations are done. This should be made public, > since the entire movement is run by public

Re: [Wikimania-l] WMF Scholarships to attend Wikimania

2017-04-18 Thread Gnangarra
Contributions is such wide term are you talking about edits in projects or work on the ground in assisting others, what about the unseen work like supporting an affiliate to be successful or a GLAM to open up its resources When talking about edits is a photo uploaded to commons worth more because

Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2017 call for submissions

2017-02-14 Thread Gnangarra
not an opinion of Chris or his presentation for which I have no idea. its a comment on the COI position and practicalities If Chris has to recuse himself from the decision about his presentation because of a COI would he not also have to recuse himself from decisions on the other

Re: [Wikimania-l] Wiki (not) Mania?

2016-12-17 Thread Gnangarra
English as a language isnt bound by right and wrong. the language, the meanings. words evolve English absorbs and adapts from other languages., even within English speakers there are differences in meaning, uses and spellings. The other issue is one that will never be perfect for all case that is

Re: [Wikimania-l] Wiki (not) Mania?

2016-11-08 Thread Gnangarra
; > -Andrew Lih > Associate professor of journalism, American University > Email: and...@andrewlih.com > WEB: http://www.andrewlih.com > BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http://www.wikipediarevolution.com > PROJECT: Wiki Makes Video http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ > Wikipedia:WikiProjec

Re: [Wikimania-l] Wiki (not) Mania?

2016-11-07 Thread Gnangarra
To quote C. Scott Ananian > I have no idea how to concisely include all the "Wikimedia projects" and > still mention "Wikipedia" in the title... which suggests perhaps that Ed's > version ("Wikimania: the global wikipedia summit") or whatever > subtitle Lodewijk used isn't too far off. maybe we

Re: [Wikimania-l] A Wikimania journal

2016-10-22 Thread Gnangarra
not on the organizing team? After all, anyone could collect such > information together. > > Best, > Lodewijk > > 2016-10-22 12:06 GMT+02:00 Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com>: > >> It would be nice to see past events wrapped up into one journal covering >> all

Re: [Wikimania-l] Unified Wikimania wiki

2016-10-22 Thread Gnangarra
It would be nice to see past events wrapped up into one journal covering all aspects from original discussion until the final reporting of the event including financials, attendee reports and media reports at the moment everything is spread across chapter, foundation, event pages which means

Re: [Wikimania-l] Future Wikimanias

2016-10-17 Thread Gnangarra
Visa arent an issue everyone can get them online, except for those people from North Korea and currently those travelling under some UN passports due to a technical issue. We have public transport system that works its nothing flash though a definate must do experience for the adventurist

Re: [Wikimania-l] [Wikimania Committee] Wikimania 2018

2016-07-23 Thread Gnangarra
thanks that seams to work, its now awaiting moderator approval On 24 July 2016 at 10:38, Joseph Fox <josephfoxw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Gnangarra - perhaps it should be wikimania-...@lists.wikimedia.org ? > > On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 at 01:27 Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> w

Re: [Wikimania-l] [Wikimania Committee] Wikimania 2018

2016-07-23 Thread Gnangarra
well tried to submit Perth bid to the email supplied and the response was; Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: wikimania-...@wikimedia.org Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient

Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania - annually, with South Africa in 2018?

2016-07-17 Thread Gnangarra
Volunteer are not just precious they are the essential component both during planning and during the event itself, also with that goes the desire to put that effort in. WMF Staff, Affiliate Staff and Contractors while necessary are paid its something that can be augmented as needed but not

Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania - annually, with South Africa in 2018?

2016-07-10 Thread Gnangarra
forward or not. >>> >>> First, WMF staff working so we can have the discussion with all the >>> cards in our hands. Which is not the case now. >>> >>> Second, what is Wikimania purposes? Right now I fear there is none >>> clearly defin

Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania - annually, with South Africa in 2018?

2016-07-10 Thread Gnangarra
il I have everything > in hand. But I love Wikimania, and I want to know if it's the best format, > and if it's not to fix it :) > Le 10 juil. 2016 4:37 AM, "Gnangarra" <gnanga...@gmail.com> a écrit : > >> Agree with the comments thats hard to measure the val

Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania - annually, with South Africa in 2018?

2016-07-09 Thread Gnangarra
Agree with the comments thats hard to measure the value of a Wikimania, and what an attendee will do with the experience. so here is my experience My first Wikimania was 2012 in Washington DC, I was a little introspective and embroiled in an ARBCOM case I shared a room with Richard Farmbrough

Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania - annually, with South Africa in 2018?

2016-07-09 Thread Gnangarra
That original survey was intrinsically flawed and show be totally thrown out, the people who participated(myself included) were invited that list was primarily constructed of people who had participated in a closed discussion in Mexico which decided on Montreal by usurping the community

Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania - annually, with South Africa in 2018?

2016-07-08 Thread Gnangarra
Noting that Wikimedia Australia has also expressed its interest in holding Wikimania in 2018 in Perth, it has a number of significant sponsorship offers already on the table all of which had been communicated to Ellie, the sponsorship offers includes venue fees, travel costs and other assistance

Re: [Wikimania-l] Planning for North America track at Wikimania 2017

2016-07-07 Thread Gnangarra
I dont see what the issue is asking for a NA track, before detailed planning gets too far progressed, it makes sense to have the two conferences overlap or be as one as people have limited time they can attend if they are interested in NA tracks and follow on from the NA 2016 conference then that

Re: [Wikimania-l] Say MiLLE GRACIE to all Wikimania volunteers

2016-06-28 Thread Gnangarra
worked their arse off for us all -- or change the topic > of this thread, if we want to discuss the pros and cons of a Wikimania > 2018 hosted by the Australian chapter. > > Cheers, > > L. > > > 2016-06-28 14:28 GMT+02:00 Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com>: >

Re: [Wikimania-l] Say MiLLE GRACIE to all Wikimania volunteers

2016-06-28 Thread Gnangarra
I know for a fact she isnt as she told Andrew Owens our representative such in Berlin On 28 June 2016 at 20:26, Manuel Schneider <manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch> wrote: > Hi Gnangarra, > > it is a fact that has been in discussion a few times on this list and > elsewh

Re: [Wikimania-l] Say MiLLE GRACIE to all Wikimania volunteers

2016-06-28 Thread Gnangarra
19:48, Manuel Schneider <manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch> wrote: > Hi Gnangarra, > > On 28.06.2016 13:16, Gnangarra wrote: > > Thanks for the information Manuel, but where was this session > > > > who is working on identifying a host, where is this process tak

Re: [Wikimania-l] Say MiLLE GRACIE to all Wikimania volunteers

2016-06-28 Thread Gnangarra
rocessed though, so I should be > patient! > > Best, > Lodewijk > > 2016-06-28 9:38 GMT+02:00 Manuel Schneider <manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch> > : > >> Hi Gnangarra, >> >> On 28.06.2016 03:04, Gnangarra wrote: >> > Great idea, also send one to

Re: [Wikimania-l] Say MiLLE GRACIE to all Wikimania volunteers

2016-06-27 Thread Gnangarra
Great idea, also send one to the WMF if you want wikimania to continue beyond Montreal, because if you start fighting for it now there wont be one in 2018 to bring the whole of our community together, there wont be the opportunity for other to experience the global sharing of knowledge that you

Re: [Wikimania-l] Accommodation

2016-06-13 Thread Gnangarra
lying on immigration forms isnt the best of ideas, if found out(small risk) it'll see you having trouble obtaining visas for many countries in the future. a cynical person would think that this is part of conspiracy to drive away community support for Wikimanias in the future. On 13 June 2016

Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships

2016-03-13 Thread Gnangarra
Call me cynical It doesnt matter what process is published now because that process will be adjusted to reflect what ever happened, thats neither fair nor transparent. Just the same as Montreal was chosen first and then we were told the process was broken and needed to be changed. This

Re: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016

2016-03-11 Thread Gnangarra
Olatunde raises a significant issue in that call for communities to participate in the community village is demoralising if communities dont have the opportunity to attend the event which is suppose to be bringing everyone together. We have the underlying principle of sharing the sum of all

Re: [Wikimania-l] [Wikimedia-l] Outcomes from the Consultation on Wikimedia movement conferences/Wikimania

2016-02-09 Thread Gnangarra
> > ​ > On behalf of the Wikimania Committee, I would like to thank everyone who took part and the Community Resources team for organising this discussion. The Committee will consider these recommendations and will then come back > with some changes to our processes. > ​Ellie started the

Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Notifications of acceptance and rejection for "Critical issues" presentations

2016-02-05 Thread Gnangarra
Wouldnt it be better to have redacted the anomaly and aggregated to two remaining scores rather then three scores because other the review is meaningless as it the anomaly in place and therefore create the wasted effort, where an 8 and 3 occurs if the third score is a 10 then the 3 is the anomaly

Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Notifications of acceptance and rejection for "Critical issues" presentations

2016-02-03 Thread Gnangarra
I would have thought knowing who was proposing the presentation was a significant factor in its evaluation as that provides the critical point of whether the person has the knowledge to speak about the issue. Such games make the process appear to be unprofessional offering very little in the way

Re: [Wikimania-l] [Wikimedia-l] Community consultation on the future of Wikimania

2015-12-04 Thread Gnangarra
I would be nice for the original schedule to have been followed or contact made, it would also have been nice to have been conatcted about the delay especially as a one of the people who followed the procedure in place and started a bid of 2017, was then told that wasnt being followed but that

Re: [Wikimania-l] Coming up with a new process for Wikimania selection

2015-10-06 Thread Gnangarra
very irony of all of this is that the Australian chapter had scheduled a national-semi regional conference this past weekend but was that abandoned when the funding request was decline On 7 October 2015 at 08:11, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:57 AM,

Re: [Wikimania-l] Coming up with a new process for Wikimania selection

2015-10-06 Thread Gnangarra
the volunteers. I recall being positively surprised > that there was very little difference between India and Berlin for the > chapters meeting... > > Best, > Lodewijk > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 3:10 AM, Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I like the idea

[Wikimania-l] Biggest disappointment from Wikimania 2017

2015-10-05 Thread Gnangarra
This has been going on for three days, yet not one person involved in this decision has take a moment to reachout personally to the people who worked on bids, They have tabled justifications on list discussions, they have changed the status of Meta pages but not once have they given anyone the

Re: [Wikimania-l] Coming up with a new process for Wikimania selection

2015-10-05 Thread Gnangarra
I like the idea of distance as measure to choose the next location, but that should also be coupled with a timezone factor +- 6 hours at a minimum as well... Wikimania still needs a local group to volunteers who understand the local language and customs, it needs their enthusiasm and energy to