The policy can not be expected to wholly and solely ensure the safety of attendees, likewise stickers arent going to be readily identifiable in all circumstances. Then ask yourself the question what if someone who wears a dont photograph me lanyard is walking around photographing other people. There are more solutions to ensure a person isn't in a shot than preventing someone from taking the photograph.
Placing yourself in a position to prevent others participating is an issue, I can understand and respect that not everyone comes from a society where they have a benevolent government who encourages the dissemination of free knowledge. A safe space policy has to include practical considerations as part of that and we as end users need to also take a level of personal responsibility to ensure that everyone can be part of any event, which is why I raised the example. On 6 August 2018 at 14:37, effe iets anders <effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote: > This is going wildly of topic. But... > The decency? > > I don't think i would agree with your characterization that people who > don't like to give a carte blanche to everyone to publish (sometimes not > very elegant) photos of them should treat themselves as second rank > participants. > > Especially in the context of a discussion around a friendly space policy, > i am of the opinion that this would be a dangerous direction. > > Lodewijk > > On Sun, Aug 5, 2018, 23:24 cs <c...@edubkk.org> wrote: > >> In which case, those people should have the decency to not present >> themselves anywhere where a photo shoot or video recording is very likely >> to take place. Or politely take space at the back of the room and wear >> a face mask. Personally, I don’t see why anyone should be embarrassed at >> being part of a benevolent movement such as Wikipedia - have they >> something disastrous to hide? In which case, perhaps they better not >> go to Wikimania at all, and if they are scholarship recipients, give >> their place over to someone else. >> >> Kudpung >> >> On 06, Aug2018, at 10:18, Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I was disappointed at the last Wikimania(london 2014) I went to with the >> number of people wearing dont take my photo stickers taking up positions at >> the front of the room or near speakers that made it hard to get images of >> the room and record the event. >> >> On 6 August 2018 at 11:11, cs <c...@edubkk.org> wrote: >> >>> I’ve been to a great many international conferences in my career - >>> but not so many since I retired. I can’t recall people wearing >>> ‘Don’t touch me’, ‘Don’t photo me’, ‘Don’t come near me’, ‘Don’t talk >>> to me’ badges. Do they do it nowadays already? >>> >>> We’ll porbably never know the details of the incident that sparked >>> all this off but do I think it is getting out of proportion. >>> >>> Kudpung >>> >>> On 04, Aug2018, at 02:07, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, James. I think that "clarifying the distinction between friendly >>> spaces situations and Trust & Safety issues" is a good idea. >>> >>> A specific suggestion that was made earlier in this thread which sounded >>> like a good idea to me was to have an indicator, somewhat like we currently >>> do for "Photos OK" or "Photos not OK", for "friendly touch OK" or "friendly >>> touch not OK". >>> >>> I would also like to see the upcoming review of the relevant policies >>> include discussions of who should be responsible for them (I'm confused >>> about why WMF is in charge of these issues at events instead of the local >>> organizers) and the level of transparency regarding reports and >>> investigations. >>> >>> Thanks for your attention to these issues. >>> >>> Pine >>> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>> Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>> Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> GN. >> Noongarpedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/nys/Main_Page >> WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra >> Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com >> Out now: A.Gaynor, P. Newman and P. Jennings (eds.), *Never Again: >> Reflections on Environmental Responsibility after Roe 8*, UWAP, 2017. Order >> here >> <https://uwap.uwa.edu.au/products/never-again-reflections-on-environmental-responsibility-after-roe-8> >> . >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > -- GN. Noongarpedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/nys/Main_Page WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com Out now: A.Gaynor, P. Newman and P. 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