[Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

2014-01-15 Thread rupert THURNER
Hi, would anybody of you have some starting points concerning wikipedia for visually impaired persons, both computer and mobile devices? Rupert ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

2014-01-15 Thread Stevie Benton
Hi Rupert, Wikimedia UK is currently looking at this in relation to our own wiki. There's some thoughts and notes at https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Accessibility_of_the_Wikimedia_UK_website which draw extensively from information provided by the Royal National Institute of Blind People -

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

2014-01-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, One obvious point to start is the functionality of the ULS. It already serves one function for people who have a handicap with their perception. It has the OpenDyslexic font for people with dyslexia. There are multiple ways functionality can be provided who have a visual handicap. The size of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

2014-01-15 Thread Jon Davies
How about starting with what a 'ULS' is? That would help :) On 15 January 2014 08:50, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, One obvious point to start is the functionality of the ULS. It already serves one function for people who have a handicap with their perception. It has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

2014-01-15 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
ULS is short for the Universal Language Selector extension. This tool provides language selection, webfonts and keyboard layouts for different languages. It appears if you click the gear icon near the interlanguage links. Among other things, it provides the OpenDyslexic font for some languages

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

2014-01-15 Thread Jon Davies
WOW on toast! Thanks Amir. On 15 January 2014 09:47, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.ilwrote: ULS is short for the Universal Language Selector extension. This tool provides language selection, webfonts and keyboard layouts for different languages. It appears if you click the gear

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

2014-01-15 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
rupert THURNER, 15/01/2014 09:26: Hi, would anybody of you have some starting points concerning wikipedia for visually impaired persons, both computer and mobile devices? WMDE is working on this (mainly Hoo with help by TheDJ), building on recommendations compiled by WMCH. Main coordination

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

2014-01-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What the ULS is.. the universal language selector is started with this little round thingie next to the interwiki links. The fact that it is not even known in this crowd is indicative how little this functionality is known and how few people will find usability tools. One thing we need to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

2014-01-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, How is dyslexia anything BUT a visual impairment ? Thanks, GerardM On 15 January 2014 10:47, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.ilwrote: ULS is short for the Universal Language Selector extension. This tool provides language selection, webfonts and keyboard layouts for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

2014-01-15 Thread James Alexander
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, How is dyslexia anything BUT a visual impairment ? Thanks, GerardM Dyslexia can also has some serious auditory symptoms (processing speed, auditory memory, verbal comprehension, voice recognition..

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

2014-01-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am totally with you. However we can only help where we can. Providing the font and make it accessible is one way. Thanks, GerardM On 15 January 2014 11:18, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

2014-01-15 Thread Michael Maggs
Can WMUK collaborate with WMDE (and others) on this to push it forward? Obviously a lot of good work has already been done, but perhaps it now needs some long term commitment and leadership to ensure that what has been done is made easily accessible, and to work on filling gaps in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

2014-01-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am talking with the Polish chapter to extend the functionality of the OpenDyslexic font ... I am waiting for their GO/NOGO. Thanks, GerardM On 15 January 2014 12:08, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote: Can WMUK collaborate with WMDE (and others) on this to push it forward?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [WMUK Tech] [Wikimediauk-l] Improving Wikimedia access for people with impairments (was Visually impaired)

2014-01-15 Thread Michael Maggs
Yes, indeed. Collaborating to get a well advertised clearing centre running would be a very good first step. But to get over the usual issue that nobody in the community comes forward to point out where the gaps are (which may not be surprising as the people we want to contact here are by

[Wikimedia-l] Extensive feedback from WMDE to the FDC process

2014-01-15 Thread Pavel Richter
Hello everybody, I have just posted an extensive feedback from WMDE on the FDC process here on meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_portal/Comments/Extensive_feedback_from_WMDE_to_the_FDC_process The statement was drafted by WMDE's Supervisory Board and myself. We are very much

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Extensive feedback from WMDE to the FDC process

2014-01-15 Thread Itzik Edri
Thank you Pavel and WMDE board, this is indeed a great constructive feedback and I strongly agree with most of the your arguments and concerns. Itzik WMIL On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Pavel Richter pavel.rich...@wikimedia.dewrote: Hello everybody, I have just posted an extensive

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Extensive feedback from WMDE to the FDC process

2014-01-15 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
thanks indeed! I agree with many of the comments (and yes, I don't like bureaucracy neither, I also am very much in favor of moving towards a collaborative and trusting process, although the way you phrased it sounds as if you've assumed we, at the FDC, are against it :) I think that beyond

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

2014-01-15 Thread Michael Snow
On 1/15/2014 8:13 AM, Victor Grigas wrote: I interviewed 2 gentlemen who are both blind who use a program called JAWS on desktop machines that reads the Wikipedia page to them, allowing them to edit. In the US, I believe JAWS is the predominant tool employed to assist blind computer users. At

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Extensive feedback from WMDE to the FDC process

2014-01-15 Thread Nathan
Thanks to WMDE for the thoughtful and very interesting feedback to the FDC. As an observer but not a participant, I found it very helpful in organizing and restating the criticism we've all read about the FDC process. The statement is highly constructive, and I understand why it doesn't get into

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Post about Wikipedia and the public domain as part of EFF's Copyright Week

2014-01-15 Thread Jay Walsh
The Wikimedia Foundation's legal team recently authored a guest blog post for EFF's Copyright Week [1] about how Wikipedia relies on the public domain (post is also copied below): https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/01/wikipedia-shows-value-vibrant-public-domain The legal team invited the advocacy

[Wikimedia-l] effect of edit filter on editing levels, (was thanking anons)

2014-01-15 Thread WereSpielChequers
Marc, It isn't just the vandalism and reversion of vandalism that we've lost as a result of the edit filters (originally known as abuse filters) there is also the lost userpage warnings, AIV reports, block messages and removal of AIV reports:) But yes the majority would have been vandalism and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] effect of edit filter on editing levels, (was thanking anons)

2014-01-15 Thread Oliver Keyes
Actually, yes, we do; Aaron Halfaker did a lot of work quantifying and defining 'man-hours' in a Wikipedia sense. On 15 January 2014 10:15, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.comwrote: Marc, It isn't just the vandalism and reversion of vandalism that we've lost as a result of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] effect of edit filter on editing levels, (was thanking anons)

2014-01-15 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 01/15/2014 01:15 PM, WereSpielChequers wrote: Of course there remains the issue that our audience is still growing faster than the Internet whilst nobody really knows whether the underlying rate of goodfaith editing is increasing or stable. My own eyeball metric on this is entirely

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Extensive feedback from WMDE to the FDC process

2014-01-15 Thread Bence Damokos
Thanks Pavel for sharing this. I think a bigger conversation will be on-going on Meta and in general on where to continue it in the real world. It might be useful to keep in mind that the movement has already invested and committed to bringing all chapters (and possibly thorgs) to the Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Extensive feedback from WMDE to the FDC process

2014-01-15 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi Bence, I think that a discussion about the movement sources should be more open to people from outside of chapters, too and their input may nevertheless be valuable. Also, my wild guess is that Wikimania will attract many more activists of the movement than the chapter conference anyway

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Extensive feedback from WMDE to the FDC process

2014-01-15 Thread Bence Damokos
Those are all concerns I understand, and i am not in the mood to argue this to win. Either result would be fine with me after a well considered decision. i merely put forward considerations of people (should all possible funded entities be present - they are not guaranteed presence at one of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 118, Issue 44

2014-01-15 Thread Akinbuli Pelumi
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Extensive feedback from WMDE to the FDC process

2014-01-15 Thread Anasuya Sengupta
Hi Pavel, Thanks very much for the thoughtful feedback from WMDE on the FDC. We certainly want to be (and hope we are) wiki in nature: a work in progress, with continued room for improvement. So I think the FDC, the FDC Advisory Group (of which you are a member, of course), the Board and the

[Wikimedia-l] New Program Evaluation Report: GLAM content donations

2014-01-15 Thread LiAnna Davis
(please excuse cross-posting) Hi everyone! I posted the latest in the string of program evaluation reports on Meta today, on GLAM content donations: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programs:Evaluation_portal/Library/GLAM_content_donations Highlights of the report include: * Program leaders who

[Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-15 Thread Fabrice Florin
Greetings! The Wikimedia Foundation's multimedia team (1) seeks your guidance on a proposal to support the MP4 video format. As you know, this digital video standard is used widely around the world to record, edit and watch videos on mobile phones, desktop computers and home video devices. It

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-15 Thread Fajro
No. -- Fajro ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-15 Thread Brandon Harris
On Jan 15, 2014, at 7:25 PM, Fajro fai...@gmail.com wrote: No. I think you should probably include a reason why you feel this way. A one-word answer doesn’t leave room for conversation. --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-15 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Clarification: while LCA would love to accept the compliment (and indeed, both the l and the ca sides are providing support for this process), it is Fabrice's initiative, not one of ours. pb Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy On Jan 15, 2014, at 8:05 PM, Liam Wyatt