Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread Andre Engels
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 5:33 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: MZMcBride wrote: As much as the term is an awful buzzword, Commons could also do with additional gamification, from what I've seen. If we can set up an easy keyword/tagging system, having users help us sort and tag

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread Hong, Yena
There are lots of unidentified (blah blah) categories - such as birds, cars, flowers, and etc etc. How about these categories? -Yena Hong (Revi) [[User:-revi]] -- Sent from Android -- 2014. 12. 13. 오후 5:08에 Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com님이 작성: On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 5:33 AM, svetlana

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread Jane Darnell
No, tagging is different. GerardM blogged about this with the example of horse. You can tag a photo as being of a horse by putting it in the horse category, but in no time it will be filed under some subcategory of horse. There are relatively few images in the top horse category. Moreover, most

[Wikimedia-l] WMCH appeal to the Board on the recommendations of the FDC

2014-12-13 Thread Frieda Brioschi
Dear Wikimedia community, As the two Board Representatives on the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC), we want to publicly acknowledge the appeal that was submitted by Wikimedia CH. [1] We appreciate the effort that Wikimedia CH’s Board and staff put into their appeal, which outlines their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMCH appeal to the Board on the recommendations of the FDC

2014-12-13 Thread svetlana
Hi, Thanks a lot for the message. A minor technical comment: You forgot to sign your message with a timestamp: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grants%3AAPG%2FAppeals_to_the_Board_on_the_recommendations_of_the_FDCdiff=10748958oldid=10719184 I would just fix it, but I don't know

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-13 Thread JP Béland
Russavia wrote To crop the logo out to appear as it does in your linked to image, it would be a copyvio. Doesn't the free license we use is supposed to allow (and even force) any modifications of an image to be free also? JP aka Amqui 2014-12-11 11:04 GMT-07:00 Russavia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-13 Thread Marco Chiesa
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 12:07 PM, JP Béland lebo.bel...@gmail.com wrote: Russavia wrote To crop the logo out to appear as it does in your linked to image, it would be a copyvio. Doesn't the free license we use is supposed to allow (and even force) any modifications of an image to be free

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-13 Thread JP Béland
We're talking strictly about copyright here. If not trademark that are too simple to be copyrightable would be considered but they are not. The reason the logo would become unacceptable on Commons is based on copyright. 2014-12-13 4:27 GMT-07:00 Marco Chiesa chiesa.ma...@gmail.com: On Sat, Dec

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-13 Thread Bruentrup
You cannot crop a minor trademark element, eg. logo, incidentally located within a free photographic image and upload it to Commons as a free use instance of that trademark / logo. BRUENTRUP On 12/13/14, JP Béland lebo.bel...@gmail.com wrote: We're talking strictly about copyright here. If not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread MZMcBride
Jane Darnell wrote: No, tagging is different. GerardM blogged about this with the example of horse. You can tag a photo as being of a horse by putting it in the horse category, but in no time it will be filed under some subcategory of horse. There are relatively few images in the top horse

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread
I cannot see the point of raising questions about how Commons works here rather than on Commons. All of these points have been raised before and discussed on the village pump. Other threads on this list were argued to be about multiple projects, this is not. Fae On 13 Dec 2014 16:06, MZMcBride

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread Bruentrup
Perhaps because on Commons village pump, non-regulars, interacting politely and civilly, are harassed, abused and also blocked without cause. Perhaps because the discussion system at Commons is broken, and participation there is oftentimes a complete waste of time. BRUENTRUP On 12/13/14, Fæ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread Austin Hair
That's true of most project-specific discussions, but in this case, I don't think the answer to Commons isn't open to policy discussions is Go start a policy discussion on Commons. As long as Commons is meant to be a repository for the whole movement, I think it is fairly topical here. Austin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0

2014-12-13 Thread Ricordisamoa
Il 27/10/2014 18:51, Yana Welinder ha scritto: Hi folks, I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/ Thanks! This puts an end to discussions and proposals to host that logos

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread David Gerard
On 13 December 2014 at 16:06, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Jane Darnell wrote: No, tagging is different. GerardM blogged about this with the example of horse. You can tag a photo as being of a horse by putting it in the horse category, but in no time it will be filed under some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2014-12-13 18:37 GMT+01:00 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: Pretty much. We use minute sub-sub-sub-categories because Boolean arithmetic on categories used to be unfeasible; now it's feasible, but we don't do it because that's not the convention. So it would require convincing the Commons

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread
On 13 Dec 2014 16:41, Bruentrup claus.bruent...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps because on Commons village pump, non-regulars, interacting politely and civilly, are harassed, abused and also blocked without cause. Perhaps because the discussion system at Commons is broken, and participation there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread David Gerard
On 13 December 2014 at 16:43, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: As long as Commons is meant to be a repository for the whole movement, I think it is fairly topical here. Other threads on this list were argued to be about multiple projects, this is not. Pretty much the entire reason

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread Bruentrup
You are a regular. I was describing unfriendly behavior of the administrators, clerks of Commons, towards non-regulars / outsiders, who are directed to Commons by WMF staff to get their images removed, only to be abused and/or blocked. When these affected persons thereafter use the OTRS using

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread pajz
Hi, On 13 December 2014 at 19:46, Bruentrup claus.bruent...@gmail.com wrote: WMF must implement a professional ticketed system for media takedowns, and DMCAs must be the exception rather than the norm. hmm, do you have evidence of this? There are often delays when it comes to acknowledging

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] This Month in GLAM: November 2014

2014-12-13 Thread The 'This Month in GLAM' team
*This Month in GLAM* is a monthly newsletter documenting recent happenings within the GLAM project, such as content donations, residencies, events and more. GLAM is an acronym of *G*alleries, *L*ibraries, *A*rchives and *M*useums. You can find more information on the project at glamwiki.org.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread Bruentrup
Hi One of those 6 successful DMCA's of 2014 was filed by us. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/DMCA_India_Against_Corruption_logo Yet recently when my client, in good faith, reports further infringement of their same logo at Commons village pump, we have a Commons administrator agitating the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread geni
On 14 December 2014 at 05:49, Bruentrup claus.bruent...@gmail.com wrote: Not surprisingly my client's OTRS emails have gone unacknowledged with no action taken, and my client's spokesperson was repeatedly insulted and abused on-line at the highly toxic Commons which has become a haven for